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To zone it, each segment of track (which I would keep perfectly straight for admin convenience) would need to have two coordinates selected, and then a command to set it as a protected zone followed by a command to make me the owner/allowed editor of said zone. This would need to be done no more than 8 times as the layout I'd use wouldn't require this to be done too many times.

And of course this can be placed underground if need be, and then the tracks could just be power-railed up to the station at the surface, but that part would be protected by stones. Only the 8 long stretches themselves would be project protected. Honestly it would save a lot of database space, RAM, and CPU cycles to do the project protection as opposed to using protection stones all around, but regardless, I wouldn't expect the stations to be protected. I'd just love to have the large tracks segments protected, and not one block more as I'd handle the rest.

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i am already building the ways, what also is a fast way to travel around the new guest world

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Quote from: Chief149 on January 17, 2013, 05:44:31 AM
To zone it, each segment of track (which I would keep perfectly straight for admin convenience) would need to have two coordinates selected, and then a command to set it as a protected zone followed by a command to make me the owner/allowed editor of said zone. This would need to be done no more than 8 times as the layout I'd use wouldn't require this to be done too many times.

And of course this can be placed underground if need be, and then the tracks could just be power-railed up to the station at the surface, but that part would be protected by stones. Only the 8 long stretches themselves would be project protected. Honestly it would save a lot of database space, RAM, and CPU cycles to do the project protection as opposed to using protection stones all around, but regardless, I wouldn't expect the stations to be protected. I'd just love to have the large tracks segments protected, and not one block more as I'd handle the rest.

That's still a pain for admins. Pretty sure they hate zoning as it is. And what if someone builds a house above it without knowing? If say, they wanted to mine or make part of their house underground they wouldn't be able to with the zone there.

Quote from: awesomealicia on January 17, 2013, 06:07:22 AM

Quote from: Chief149 on January 17, 2013, 05:44:31 AM
To zone it, each segment of track (which I would keep perfectly straight for admin convenience) would need to have two coordinates selected, and then a command to set it as a protected zone followed by a command to make me the owner/allowed editor of said zone. This would need to be done no more than 8 times as the layout I'd use wouldn't require this to be done too many times.

And of course this can be placed underground if need be, and then the tracks could just be power-railed up to the station at the surface, but that part would be protected by stones. Only the 8 long stretches themselves would be project protected. Honestly it would save a lot of database space, RAM, and CPU cycles to do the project protection as opposed to using protection stones all around, but regardless, I wouldn't expect the stations to be protected. I'd just love to have the large tracks segments protected, and not one block more as I'd handle the rest.

That's still a pain for admins. Pretty sure they hate zoning as it is. And what if someone builds a house above it without knowing? If say, they wanted to mine or make part of their house underground they wouldn't be able to with the zone there.

you don't have to zone a cube.... it can be a polygon..... pretty much they'd just have to fly along the track adding the sections and they could literally zone just the blocks level with the tracks and it wouldn't prevent anyone from building in the nearby areas....

of course you'll never get protection for something like this... aside from it stretching across half the map..... you'd just be constantly adding areas as the rail system expands, and they're not gonna wanna have to rezone it every couple days

much simpler to just use coal ps, least that's how i've been building mine on member world

also a little advice.... it's kinda a huge/expensive undertaking. if you wanna do it all the power to ya, but it isn't easy.
2000 block long track, each coal ps is 11 blocks, 2000/11 = ~181, 181*1500 (per ps) = 271,500 for just the protection and that's only a single track from the border to the spawn. adding 4 tracks for each direction north/south/east/west + intersecting tracks and branches to cities ur looking at 1.5mil+ just in protection. not to mention the time of digging it all out (subway) or just placing tracks and clearing land above ground.

when all is said and done between protection/labor if you hire diggers/and supplies to build the tunnel/tracks you're looking at a good 2-2.5mil+ and to add in some kinda redstone train station you're looking at even more + the effort of figuring out how to build it...

it's a lotta work......

is there really noone understanding that this is just a huge waste of materials and money

Quote from: zwaan111 on January 17, 2013, 10:51:55 AM
is there really noone understanding that this is just a huge waste of materials and money

Nah thats what I was saying.

And tiggy, Im pretty sure that the admins would only do a cube. :p

Quote from: awesomealicia on January 17, 2013, 10:59:43 AM

Quote from: zwaan111 on January 17, 2013, 10:51:55 AM
is there really noone understanding that this is just a huge waste of materials and money

Nah thats what I was saying.

And tiggy, Im pretty sure that the admins would only do a cube. :p

Nyssa did my castle as a polygon so ha!

Quote from: zwaan111 on January 17, 2013, 10:51:55 AM
is there really noone understanding that this is just a huge waste of materials and money

It's not a waste of materials and money.

The protection wouldn't need to be reworked upon track expansion, because the main lines won'e be expanded further than the project's original specs.

The protection also would only cover the tracks, and not any other blocks. This means people could build above, below, and along the sides of the tracks. I don't care if someone builds a house directly above the tracks because the protection would prevent the tracks themself from being griefed. Also I would be putting most of the tracks under ground anyways, so there most likely wouldn't be houses placed around it.

But if there's no way I'd get project protection, then I'll just use protection stones.

have you already started building this stuff?

I'd be willing to donate about 60 coal ps

It may seem like a pain, but imagine a trans-world railway? This idea seems impossible, which makes It even better! I mean, what server has this, it'll show how committed our players are. I hope an admin posts to see what they consider.
And Alicia, for the branching tracks he'll use coal ps.
I'll help build the train stations if you want.

I have not started building. I'm still working out some kinks, and doing some preplanning on paper.

Also Nathanial has a point. I haven't seen a server that has a trans-world railway. Plus the fact ours would be built by a player (me and maybe a few others) shows true dedication. However it would be a great luxury for both myself and the server cpu to get project protection, but only on the blocks that make up the tracks once completed. No protection above, below, or on the sides. I want players to be able to build anywhere around my tracks even if someone's build uses the side of one of the lines as the wall to their house. I don't care so long as the minecart track tubes themselves are in tact.

And yes, any branching local tracks would be protected either by PS or not at all if I gather enough obsidian lol.

Also a note to any mods+ posting, if this doesn't get project protection, it'll be like saying no to:

Quote from: Chief149 on January 18, 2013, 02:24:49 AM
I haven't seen a server that has a trans-world railway. Plus the fact ours would be built by a player (me and maybe a few others) shows true dedication.

Because although we have lots of dedication there is 0.00000000000001% chance well be able to protect it with coal ps.

Might wanna fix your quote. It makes it look as if I'm saying that last sentence there. Just a heads up my good friend.

Anyways, it's actually incredibly possible to protect the entire thing with coal PS. It's just bloody annoying, and requires that so many protection zones be made. My only concern with the protection stones is the fact that so many more protected regions have to be made which can (god forbid) bog down the server, and reduce ticks per second. Hell, I had a cactus farm (a HUGE one), and for about 20 minutes I monitored the tickrate. Then I had alicia world edit it out of existence (after cacti were removed from the market). The number of players was relatively similar, but the ticks actually improved lol. Either coincidence, or too many cacti lol.

I am indeed concerned about lagging the server which is why I would really love an admin to come on here and say whether or not I could expect to get project protection of the track segments upon their completion.

This sounds like a lot of work. I am willing to donate. I will supply cobble if you need and maybe some iron!