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You could sell slime balls in the market too. You could set the price high to match the current economy and then slowly lower it. The price would need to start at least at the median or average of what a sticky piston sells for. Probably 6k ish.

What if they made a plugin that made the spawns from spawners not count towards the total count, and made monsters more than 144 blocks of a player de-spawn, and possibly making sunlight instantly kill mobs? Just some ideas.

Quote from: YangusTheGreat on June 08, 2012, 09:15:19 PM
and made monsters more than 144 blocks of a player de-spawn,

Minecraft as default despawns mobs further than 128 blocks from a player.

Ah sorry, my mistake.

Quote from: Smiteme69 on June 09, 2012, 12:23:58 PM

Quote from: YangusTheGreat on June 08, 2012, 09:15:19 PM
and made monsters more than 144 blocks of a player de-spawn,

Minecraft as default despawns mobs further than 128 blocks from a player.

This doesn't completely work with our server. I'm at the x:4500 z:4500 coordinates and the market is at x40 z:60 or something like that, when i tp from my city to the market and return, they still exist...

That's what's broken on our server and what makes spawning such a huge issue right now that everybody is wanting slimes,etc,etc, and what I've been saying this whole time. :/

I seen a tiny slime yesterday.....got 2 slime balls from him lol, first time in a month I've seen one. Cleared out a few chunks where he was and still nothing lol

Quote from: ViperZeroOne on June 07, 2012, 09:02:11 PM

Quote from: cschurz on June 07, 2012, 08:58:41 PM
having the server use /butcher every few hours would do nothing.

hostile mobs try to spawn every game tick (1/20th of a second) - this means that about 10 seconds after using /butcher, the mob cap is saturated again and monsters will essentially stop spawning until another /butcher is used. the command would need to be used every few minutes for anyone to notice anything (especially slimes)

Hmmmm....  Well would there maybe be a way to limit how many mobs can exist within a certain radius of a spawner?  I know some of the blaze spawners can get up into the hundreds of mobs around them, lagging the chunk so badly you can't even move.

correct me if the following is not the point 
trying to understand the problem 

are the spawners a problem?
spawners already have a max right?
until ofcourse, they get out of the escape area but...that takes time right?
so if they would be saturated within 10 seconds again, the mob spawners will not have time enough
to produce an ammount, that fills up the cap so much 
in wich the actual saturation of spawners replacing the regular mobs would take way longer then a couple mins?

am i close?
*hiding in a corner waiting for someone to totaly proove me wrong or tell me its something else *

Quote from: Kascas on June 09, 2012, 11:50:59 PM

Quote from: ViperZeroOne on June 07, 2012, 09:02:11 PM

Quote from: cschurz on June 07, 2012, 08:58:41 PM
having the server use /butcher every few hours would do nothing.

hostile mobs try to spawn every game tick (1/20th of a second) - this means that about 10 seconds after using /butcher, the mob cap is saturated again and monsters will essentially stop spawning until another /butcher is used. the command would need to be used every few minutes for anyone to notice anything (especially slimes)

Hmmmm....  Well would there maybe be a way to limit how many mobs can exist within a certain radius of a spawner?  I know some of the blaze spawners can get up into the hundreds of mobs around them, lagging the chunk so badly you can't even move.

correct me if the following is not the point 
trying to understand the problem 

are the spawners a problem?
spawners already have a max right?
until ofcourse, they get out of the escape area but...that takes time right?
so if they would be saturated within 10 seconds again, the mob spawners will not have time enough
to produce an ammount, that fills up the cap so much 
in wich the actual saturation of spawners replacing the regular mobs would take way longer then a couple mins?

am i close?
*hiding in a corner waiting for someone to totaly proove me wrong or tell me its something else *

The thing is, most spawners are turned into grinders/farms so naturally the mobs are rushed away from the spawner asap, so that more spawn

Found some mobs and slimes yesterday, I was really exited.
Today... None at all...
They really need to fix this.

Quote from: 2crzy4uall on June 10, 2012, 02:15:12 AM

Quote from: Kascas on June 09, 2012, 11:50:59 PM
correct me if the following is not the point 
trying to understand the problem 

are the spawners a problem?
spawners already have a max right?
until ofcourse, they get out of the escape area but...that takes time right?
so if they would be saturated within 10 seconds again, the mob spawners will not have time enough
to produce an ammount, that fills up the cap so much 
in wich the actual saturation of spawners replacing the regular mobs would take way longer then a couple mins?

am i close?
*hiding in a corner waiting for someone to totaly proove me wrong or tell me its something else *

The thing is, most spawners are turned into grinders/farms so naturally the mobs are rushed away from the spawner asap, so that more spawn

Agreed...  Since farms are designed to move the mobs away from the spawner it circumvents the maximum spawn capacity of the spawner.  I've seen some blaze traps with hundreds of blazes in them and they just keep spawning because the spawner doesn't know to stop.  I believe this also happens with the zombie/spider/skelly traps as well, but since there are so many of them on the server it maxes out the mob limit fast so you never get spawners with hundreds of mobs in them.

Quote from: ViperZeroOne on June 10, 2012, 06:34:28 PM
Agreed...  Since farms are designed to move the mobs away from the spawner it circumvents the maximum spawn capacity of the spawner.  I've seen some blaze traps with hundreds of blazes in them and they just keep spawning because the spawner doesn't know to stop.  I believe this also happens with the zombie/spider/skelly traps as well, but since there are so many of them on the server it maxes out the mob limit fast so you never get spawners with hundreds of mobs in them.

Actually the other day i fell asleep at my skelly spawner, woke up 3 hours later and i couldnt even move there were so many, i couldnt hit them either, i had somone brew me some potions and ended up killing them all, it was horrible lol

Quote from: 2crzy4uall on June 10, 2012, 06:46:12 PM

Quote from: ViperZeroOne on June 10, 2012, 06:34:28 PM
Agreed...  Since farms are designed to move the mobs away from the spawner it circumvents the maximum spawn capacity of the spawner.  I've seen some blaze traps with hundreds of blazes in them and they just keep spawning because the spawner doesn't know to stop.  I believe this also happens with the zombie/spider/skelly traps as well, but since there are so many of them on the server it maxes out the mob limit fast so you never get spawners with hundreds of mobs in them.

Actually the other day i fell asleep at my skelly spawner, woke up 3 hours later and i couldnt even move there were so many, i couldnt hit them either, i had somone brew me some potions and ended up killing them all, it was horrible lol

When you feel tired, log out... *LOL*

Quote from: ViperZeroOne on June 10, 2012, 06:34:28 PM

Quote from: 2crzy4uall on June 10, 2012, 02:15:12 AM

Quote from: Kascas on June 09, 2012, 11:50:59 PM
correct me if the following is not the point 
trying to understand the problem 

are the spawners a problem?
spawners already have a max right?
until ofcourse, they get out of the escape area but...that takes time right?
so if they would be saturated within 10 seconds again, the mob spawners will not have time enough
to produce an ammount, that fills up the cap so much 
in wich the actual saturation of spawners replacing the regular mobs would take way longer then a couple mins?

am i close?
*hiding in a corner waiting for someone to totaly proove me wrong or tell me its something else *

The thing is, most spawners are turned into grinders/farms so naturally the mobs are rushed away from the spawner asap, so that more spawn

Agreed...  Since farms are designed to move the mobs away from the spawner it circumvents the maximum spawn capacity of the spawner.  I've seen some blaze traps with hundreds of blazes in them and they just keep spawning because the spawner doesn't know to stop.  I believe this also happens with the zombie/spider/skelly traps as well, but since there are so many of them on the server it maxes out the mob limit fast so you never get spawners with hundreds of mobs in them.

ah i see the problem now 

Quote from: ViperZeroOne on June 10, 2012, 07:23:58 PM
When you feel tired, log out... *LOL*

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