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Hey there!

So, I have been...somewhat okay with the 'Please vote now' box, but it is starting to get annoying. I have voted FULLY and the box still comes up on just about every page. I know I can press 'No', but it gets super annoying over time. So, my suggestion is not to remove it, but to calm it down and make it recognize when the person has voted fully.

I totally agree. When I connect from my mobile it causes lag. It is really annoying as it has no use except to go to the vote page. You can always click to the vote tab to go there so it really useless.

Yeah, exactly. Optical could try to limit it to the homepage only, and that would make me so much happier.

I agree as well. It is annoying when I go on opticraft website from my phone or iPad

I agree, too.
The site has 3 choices to make you vote.
1) This box that appears all the time.
2) The "Vote" in the menu bar.
3) The choice on the left that you place your name.
Even if it was for pushing us to vote, this should be removed when we have voted.

I agree completely.

I actually brought it up in my post http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,9590.0.html (not knowing you had started this.)

I believe the best option would be to create a cookie in PHP or JS that expires every, say, 24-48 hours, that is created when they hit no. (Or even yes.)
The cookie would stop the popup, which gets bloody annoying if you're viewing multiple pages.

After a day the popup would come up one time, giving them a friendly reminder that they should vote.

Another option would be to pull the players name from either a cookie or their login, and check if they have already voted.
If they haven't voted on any of the four, the popup is displayed. If they have voted on them all, it hides itself.

The best option though (in my eyes) would be a mix of both.
Some users simply might not want to vote, and while it doesn't benefit the server, you shouldn't punish them for it. If they don't want to vote, they won't vote. No popup box will change that.
The only thing the popup box will do is aggravate said users, and possibly leave a bad taste to the name "Opticraft" for them.
Sounds stupid, but it's human nature, and it's inevitable.

Just my two cents
-Dave

As much as I realize WHY the vote box pops up, I also find it a bit of a problem when I'm not visiting the website from a PC.  Perhaps a good suggestion would be to have the site check your browser and if you're visiting from a "mobile" device it doesn't do the popup?

That said, If you're visiting the website from a mobile device and using a "hacked browser" to make it thinks you're on a desktop then you deserve the popup.

Quote from: oreojr123456789 on May 06, 2012, 02:58:40 AM
I agree as well. It is annoying when I go on opticraft website from my phone or iPad

Yeah I use it on my iPad and it is super annoying at times.

*shrugs* It only annoys me on my phone.

A could solve that just the same. It's a quick fix too.

Quote from: ViperZeroOne on May 06, 2012, 07:51:45 PM
That said, If you're visiting the website from a mobile device and using a "hacked browser" to make it thinks you're on a desktop then you deserve the popup.

Why do they deserve the popup?
I've seen plenty of mobile sites that just suck, many of which don't contain everything the main site does. (They usually leave out the one thing I'm looking for/make it impossible to locate.)
The only mobile device I ever use is my Motorola Triumph, but I've not used it enough to bother doing anything of the sort. However, if I did commonly use a mobile device to view sites (which I probably never will, because I think they are junk compared to a laptop/desktop, and I don't find myself needing to browse the web whilst on the go), I would seriously consider it.

Quote from: Myskillzownu on May 06, 2012, 08:04:02 PM
Why do they deserve the popup?
I've seen plenty of mobile sites that just suck, many of which don't contain everything the main site does. (They usually leave out the one thing I'm looking for/make it impossible to locate.)

They deserve it because they're using a "hacked browser".  Your mobile device has a browser already built into it, the "hacked browser" is an additional app you install.  So just use the regular browser to come to Opticraft and the other one to visit other places.  Opticraft doesn't have a mobile version so if you're using a mobile browser you see it as a normal website so there's no reason for Opti to have to do special coding to discover hacked mobile browsers.  Just detect regular mobile devices and stop the popup, that's all it has to do.  The code is actually pretty simple, did it on my own site once.

Quote from: ViperZeroOne on May 06, 2012, 08:07:41 PM

Quote from: Myskillzownu on May 06, 2012, 08:04:02 PM
Why do they deserve the popup?
I've seen plenty of mobile sites that just suck, many of which don't contain everything the main site does. (They usually leave out the one thing I'm looking for/make it impossible to locate.)

They deserve it because they're using a "hacked browser".  Your mobile device has a browser already built into it, the "hacked browser" is an additional app you install.  So just use the regular browser to come to Opticraft and the other one to visit other places.  Opticraft doesn't have a mobile version so if you're using a mobile browser you see it as a normal website so there's no reason for Opti to have to do special coding to discover hacked mobile browsers.  Just detect regular mobile devices and stop the popup, that's all it has to do.  The code is actually pretty simple, did it on my own site once.

I don't see why the annoyance should be removed only for a small group of viewers.
I agree that implementing a fix so it never shows on mobile browsers isn't a terrible idea, but I don't think the problem should be left unresolved for everyone else.

As I had stated before (might have been on another thread), a simple cookie created in PHP could fix the whole issue.
If you click yes/no once, it goes away for 24+ hours, depending on when you tell the cookie to expire. Depending on what the owner is okay with, users might even be able to click "never show again", and so long as they don't clear their cookies, it won't.
This would stop viewers on regular browsers and mobile browsers from being spammed with the box, while still reminding them every day that they could vote.
After that's implemented a check for mobile browsers could be thrown in; I don't hate the idea, I just don't think it should end there, and I don't think people that are sick of viewing terrible mobile sites should be punished. (Nor would they want to use a different browser for this website specifically.)

A more advanced option would be pulling their username from either a stored cookie or their login information, and displaying it based on it they've voted or not. That would, however, be too much work.

Personally I think the best option is to throw a smaller box to the left of the ~1000px div section that displays all of the php. You could make it float in the vertical center of the page. Users will see it, it will always be there, but it won't be in the way.
Users that are viewing on old CRT monitors with 1024x resolution would not see it, but odds are there's not many of those on Minecraft anyway.

Quote from: Myskillzownu on May 06, 2012, 06:33:11 PM
I agree completely.

I actually brought it up in my post http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,9590.0.html (not knowing you had started this.)

I believe the best option would be to create a cookie in PHP or JS that expires every, say, 24-48 hours, that is created when they hit no. (Or even yes.)
The cookie would stop the popup, which gets bloody annoying if you're viewing multiple pages.

After a day the popup would come up one time, giving them a friendly reminder that they should vote.

Another option would be to pull the players name from either a cookie or their login, and check if they have already voted.
If they haven't voted on any of the four, the popup is displayed. If they have voted on them all, it hides itself.

The best option though (in my eyes) would be a mix of both.
Some users simply might not want to vote, and while it doesn't benefit the server, you shouldn't punish them for it. If they don't want to vote, they won't vote. No popup box will change that.
The only thing the popup box will do is aggravate said users, and possibly leave a bad taste to the name "Opticraft" for them.
Sounds stupid, but it's human nature, and it's inevitable.

Just my two cents
-Dave

We need some programmers to do this as writing cookies need some JavaScript or php knowledge. Idk if optical knows js or php but even if he does, he doesnt have time to this. Imagine that someone who is managing 1000 with everyone asking something. There is no need to write such a cookie as we can delete it simply because it really has no use. If we want to attract ppl to vote, then we should add an attractive text linking to the vote part. It is that simple no need of extra work.

I found the "hacked browser" part amusing. You know Safari on iPhones is basiclly the same browser as on a desktop? Mobile sites are only to limit the data sent over cell networks with small pages and make them look better on smaller screens. You can click "view desktop version" on almost all sites when viewing mobile version. Am I hacking?
Anyway, it's annoying when on my desktop. When I click new topics, from my laptop or desktop, it still comes up. It's not just mobile users. The point I got from this thread is its annoying. Some users just pointed out it's extra annoying from their other devices.. I don't mind hitting no thanks constantly, but it'd be great to not see it every time I click a link.

I would be happy to offer my services, but I can't see him accepting it.

Removing it would inevitably be the best solution, but will be go for that?