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As a trusted, I believe lava should stick with mods. Mods can handle lava and grief requests, whereas trusted can deal with water and fire (like it already is)
As for the rank in between, it might be an interesting implementation, however, like witchiwa has stated, it will probably serve a "decorative" purpose (our most trusted members). We could give them teleport or "chat mod" powers....maybe. Adding extra block-related power permissions (lava, water blocks) should be out of the question, though. Otherwise, you may as well just call them mod.

Quote from: DJAlphaWolf on April 30, 2012, 04:31:48 AM
As a trusted, I believe lava should stick with mods. Mods can handle lava and grief requests, whereas trusted can deal with water and fire (like it already is)
As for the rank in between, it might be an interesting implementation, however, like witchiwa has stated, it will probably serve a "decorative" purpose (our most trusted members). We could give them teleport or "chat mod" powers....maybe. Adding extra block-related power permissions (lava, water blocks) should be out of the question, though. Otherwise, you may as well just call them mod.

And as I said:

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Quote from: Varrager on April 30, 2012, 01:39:19 AM
Why not have a "helper" rank. they would play this role of a "decorator" yet they also get the ability to kick over players. they would have to be the most trusted of the trusted.

Eh, not necessarily kick people, just get lava placement. I for one would lava a TON more if I had it readily accesible.

That is the exact reason why it is not readily accessible.

For decorative purposes (what else would it be used for?). Plus, that's why m suggesting it to be harder to get than trusted, maybe just as hard as mod, without the responsibility of having to be a mod. This is a survival server (that phrase gets thrown around a lot), and in survival you can place lava.

The last thing we need is more decorative lava that increases the chances of a mistake happening.

But think about it. This member would have to be EXTREMELY trusted to get this rank. As Witchawa said, this could possibly be for people that want something more than Trusted, but don't want the hassles and possible stress from being Moderator. Not everyone wants a ton of responsibility, but instead they may want a little bit of it. I could quite possibly seeing this idea become realistic, so, good idea witchawa. But, in regards to lowering the donations, they are donations. It's not like they are actual products. Granted they come with some extras, but the main thing regarding them is that they're donations.

This could be the rank for people who want more power than Trusted, but less worries than Moderator. Granted, I do see your point.

I personally would like to help more, I would have tried applying for mod but I don't feel I'm on enough to gain that rank.

The idea is a great one but I can't see it happening to be honest.

/Smite

Quote from: tbpb2010 on April 30, 2012, 03:39:29 AM
Too bad lava damage from player placed lava can't be disabled :/

With a Plugin is everything possible. I have my own bukkit server and I have seen tons of Plugins. But if you disabled it, the survival will get lower. Lava is a true survive thing!

I don't think we need a new rank. We already have a lot of trusted and moderators on Opticraft. This rank is only a upgrade for trusted persons to place lava. If there comes a new rank we need more reason to make a new rank.

can someone tell me how u rank up in the game.

Quote from: realduckgoesmoo on April 30, 2012, 03:40:11 PM
can someone tell me how u rank up in the game.

By being awsome.

Read this http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,6935.0.html

This just won't happen. We've had too many discussions about needless ranks.  We cannot afford to have the ranks list clogged up with semi-useless ranks unless the rank is Absolutely necessary.

As Xeadin stated, this is not the first time something like this is requested. On classic, we had multiple discussions about adding a "Mod" rank (between Builder and Op) and as you can see, it never happened. I honestly doubt this idea and considering the amount of moderators there currently is, I don't think this is necessary.

Quote from: davioo on April 30, 2012, 10:34:35 PM
As Xeadin stated, this is not the first time something like this is requested. On classic, we had multiple discussions about adding a "Mod" rank (between Builder and Op) and as you can see, it never happened. I honestly doubt this idea and considering the amount of moderators there currently is, I don't think this is necessary.

The main idea was to somehow give non-mods the ability to place lava. Be it through a new rank or other means, I don't care. Maybe like a trused+? Like an extension to trusted, but not a whole new rank

There is a reason they don't have lava...There isn't any point to it as well. They don't need it often. It isn't a hassle for mods to place lava for players.

Quote from: Logan5353 on May 01, 2012, 12:31:24 AM
There is a reason they don't have lava...There isn't any point to it as well. They don't need it often. It isn't a hassle for mods to place lava for players.

When you start getting into more advanced generators, lava is almost always required. As well as lava on every work site for disposal. Decorative purposes, as well as using it in a furnace to easily smelt a whole stack at little cost.

We dont have a non staff rank that can place lava because we dont want a lot of lava on the server. Lava is dangerous and mistakes can turn out very bad.

Quote from: Nick3306 on May 01, 2012, 02:05:19 AM
We dont have a non staff rank that can place lava because we dont want a lot of lava on the server. Lava is dangerous and mistakes can turn out very bad.

How about the ability to teleport to players to help with placing water/fire? Maybe they can also "Moderate" chat as moderators are sometimes busy with grief and any other requests for help.

Trusted members role isn't to help players. That is by their own free will. If  we gave them the teleport ability and a way to moderate chat, that would make them staff members.

I guess the whole point is I wish there was someone to have some of the power of a mod without the responsibility of being a mod. But thinking about it, it IS survival, and not a big deal. It was just a suggestion