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Started by SalasCraft, January 13, 2012, 02:51:52 AM

What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?

Nick3306

There is very little chance it will pass due to that fact that most corporations are against it. Now that the supreme court ruled corporations are people and can give unlimited money to campaigns, they are the ones pulling the strings.

Also, president obama will veto the bill, that means the senate would need a 67 yes votes to pass it.

Relkeb

Yeah I highly doubt it'll pass. However, that doesn't mean that they will give up. I think this is just round one. Next year they'll come back with it with more reasoning behind it and a better plan. We need to make sure that this shit is gone for good.

turtleman918

It is highly unlikely the bill will pass. It is terrible nonetheless. Looks like this lamar smith guy takes advice from china.

Quote from: Relkeb on January 13, 2012, 03:39:14 AM
It is quite scary.

I'm terrified, and I don't even live in the U.S.. If the bill were ever to pass, it would no doubt give Harper and the right wing government an incentive to support a similar bill here in Canada.

Fortunately, websites such as wikipedia and google are totally against SOPA, and are planning "blackouts" as support for anti-SOPA. So is reddit-- it seems everday now redditors are targeting bill supporter-congressman and practically forcing them to withdraw their support in SOPA.
This bill is based on a socialistic-communistic principle. Not a republican nor conservative republican one.

Nick3306

Quote from: TurtleMan918 on January 14, 2012, 03:46:42 AM
It is highly unlikely the bill will pass. It is terrible nonetheless. Looks like this lamar smith guy takes advice from china.

Quote from: Relkeb on January 13, 2012, 03:39:14 AM
It is quite scary.

I'm terrified, and I don't even live in the U.S.. If the bill were ever to pass, it would no doubt give Harper and the right wing government an incentive to support a similar bill here in Canada.

Fortunately, websites such as wikipedia and google are totally against SOPA, and are planning "blackouts" as support for anti-SOPA. So is reddit-- it seems everday now redditors are targeting bill supporter-congressman and practically forcing them to withdraw their support in SOPA.
This bill is based on a socialistic-communistic principle. Not a republican nor conservative republican one.
Explain.

raul7legend

Quote from: TurtleMan918 on January 14, 2012, 03:46:42 AM
It is highly unlikely the bill will pass. It is terrible nonetheless. Looks like this lamar smith guy takes advice from china.

Quote from: Relkeb on January 13, 2012, 03:39:14 AM
It is quite scary.

I'm terrified, and I don't even live in the U.S.. If the bill were ever to pass, it would no doubt give Harper and the right wing government an incentive to support a similar bill here in Canada.

Fortunately, websites such as wikipedia and google are totally against SOPA, and are planning "blackouts" as support for anti-SOPA. So is reddit-- it seems everday now redditors are targeting bill supporter-congressman and practically forcing them to withdraw their support in SOPA.
This bill is based on a socialistic-communistic principle. Not a republican nor conservative republican one.
You never had a citizenship class, did you?

clawstrider

Quote from: Nick3306 on January 14, 2012, 03:50:34 AM
Quote from: TurtleMan918 on January 14, 2012, 03:46:42 AM
It is highly unlikely the bill will pass. It is terrible nonetheless. Looks like this lamar smith guy takes advice from china.

Quote from: Relkeb on January 13, 2012, 03:39:14 AM
It is quite scary.

I'm terrified, and I don't even live in the U.S.. If the bill were ever to pass, it would no doubt give Harper and the right wing government an incentive to support a similar bill here in Canada.

Fortunately, websites such as wikipedia and google are totally against SOPA, and are planning "blackouts" as support for anti-SOPA. So is reddit-- it seems everday now redditors are targeting bill supporter-congressman and practically forcing them to withdraw their support in SOPA.
This bill is based on a socialistic-communistic principle. Not a republican nor conservative republican one.
Explain.

Ctrl C + Ctrl V :P

Complicated_Name

This won't pass.

All of the major corporations are against it, and public outcry will go against it.

turtleman918

Quote from: Nick3306 on January 14, 2012, 03:50:34 AM
Quote from: TurtleMan918 on January 14, 2012, 03:46:42 AM
It is highly unlikely the bill will pass. It is terrible nonetheless. Looks like this lamar smith guy takes advice from china.

Quote from: Relkeb on January 13, 2012, 03:39:14 AM
It is quite scary.

I'm terrified, and I don't even live in the U.S.. If the bill were ever to pass, it would no doubt give Harper and the right wing government an incentive to support a similar bill here in Canada.

Fortunately, websites such as wikipedia and google are totally against SOPA, and are planning "blackouts" as support for anti-SOPA. So is reddit-- it seems everday now redditors are targeting bill supporter-congressman and practically forcing them to withdraw their support in SOPA.
This bill is based on a socialistic-communistic principle. Not a republican nor conservative republican one.
Explain.
It appears to be a move to allow the government further control of the economy. Or at least thats the way it appears to me.

morgosin

Quote from: Complicated_Name on January 15, 2012, 04:02:14 AM
This won't pass.

All of the major corporations are against it, and public outcry will go against it.

You forget congressmen don't listen to the people anymore... They do whatever the hell they want to do... Then worry about it later at election time.

Victor1261

#24
I definitely am against it. [REMOVED] by me

Here's a little vid I think you guys should watch on S.O.P.A.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w6GtwOvnWM

What do you think of it?

Everybody remembers A.C.T.A. right?

Here's a little video to refresh your memory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=citzRjwk-sQ

This video is a much more informative video on S.O.P.A.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8fJM

Hope these videos helped!


Nick3306

Quote from: morgosin on January 16, 2012, 01:23:57 AM
Quote from: Complicated_Name on January 15, 2012, 04:02:14 AM
This won't pass.

All of the major corporations are against it, and public outcry will go against it.

You forget congressmen don't listen to the people anymore... They do whatever the hell they want to do... Then worry about it later at election time.
But they do listen to corporations, and most corporations are against this.

Complicated_Name

Quote from: Nick3306 on January 16, 2012, 03:04:27 AM
Quote from: morgosin on January 16, 2012, 01:23:57 AM
Quote from: Complicated_Name on January 15, 2012, 04:02:14 AM
This won't pass.

All of the major corporations are against it, and public outcry will go against it.

You forget congressmen don't listen to the people anymore... They do whatever the hell they want to do... Then worry about it later at election time.
But they do listen to corporations, and most corporations are against this.
Exactly.

From what i read in the article that this "S.O.P.A" would shut down sites like youtube, facebook, google, wikipedia, or bing. Thats idiotic, the internet would be nothing without google or bing, what other search engine is there? Youtube, there is no other site that big for video hosting, it is know around the world, congress cant just shut this down, and about 99.9999% of youtube is not piracy, and S.O.P.A is agianst piracy,and also not much piracy is on facebook. Does that mean you have to shut it down? NO!

Nick3306

Lucho, dont take everything that article says as something that is going to happen, that article assumes a lot of things. We really don't know exactly what will happen if this bill passes, all we know is that it looks like a recipe for disaster. 


matt88222

As I've seen someone else state, we still need to be active against PIPA, which is still in play.  This is likely an example of a common technique to get it to pass.  SOPA was created to be ridiculous and hated, and now PIPA will look less ridiculous/more reasonable in comparison and more likely to pass.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door-in-the-face_technique


PIPA is nearly the same thing.  Sadly it's not over yet.