Opticraft Community

Quote from: TomRizz on April 10, 2015, 06:30:24 AM

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Quote from: TomRizz on April 01, 2015, 02:39:15 AM
Maybe a PVP/Minigames server would help the server as itwould apeal to a wider range of people

Those aren't exactly easy to make and maintain.

True

But it should be something worth looking into..

I personally have no interest in mini game servers.

But that's just your opinion on them, most people do like them and they bring a lot of people..

Speaking from first hand experience with similarly sized communities as ours, making more servers does not equal more people.  Small community driven servers like ours are a not as popular as they once were, but we still have a nice player base and enough donation income to keep running for a long while (as long as creative donations can be used towards SMP). 

If anything was to be added I think a full vanilla server with fast updates and a community based model would help us out.  The people we "want" (sorry, I know how elitist that sounds) to bring in are not young children who will play for a little while and then get banned.  Bringing in fun to be around people who are mature is what is going to help our server. 

If there was to be a PVP server it might attract players then said players might join the SMP/Creative servers.

We have PvP arenas

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Quote from: TomRizz on April 10, 2015, 06:30:24 AM
If there was to be a PVP server it might attract players then said players might join the SMP/Creative servers.

We have PvP arenas

To be honest that is a half assed attempt at PVP that was in place with what we have, it is inadequate for actually advertising we have PVP and although it works, lacks many things.

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Quote from: TomRizz on April 10, 2015, 06:30:24 AM
If there was to be a PVP server it might attract players then said players might join the SMP/Creative servers.

We have PvP arenas

To be honest that is a half assed attempt at PVP that was in place with what we have, it is inadequate for actually advertising we have PVP and although it works, lacks many things.

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Quote from: Tobs on April 10, 2015, 06:22:02 PM

Quote from: daniblue182 on April 10, 2015, 10:01:44 AM

Quote from: TomRizz on April 10, 2015, 06:30:24 AM
If there was to be a PVP server it might attract players then said players might join the SMP/Creative servers.

We have PvP arenas

To be honest that is a half assed attempt at PVP that was in place with what we have, it is inadequate for actually advertising we have PVP and although it works, lacks many things.

PvP server! PvP server! PvP server!

But in all seriousness it would be cool to have a kind of combat based server, not so much minigames or what you see hundreds of times, but something that focuses primarily on combat based games. SMP is awesome, Creative is awesome, but these are both things we've had for a very long time, and both mainly focus on Minecraft's vanilla features. Like Tobs said, SMP's PvP was a quick solution to an even bigger idea that fell through. People like building, but they also want blood, and with the proper setup, a combat server would be a huge hit.

Hello, I'm one of the Old members from Classic times, if people are wondering. I've also been keeping an eye on things to  see what the community is up to, I've never been one to make large grandiose post's or be super social, but I know a problem when I see one.

From the years I've been involved with minecraft communities I've seen the same thing happen all over, the biggest problem is Boredom. Plain and simple.

A game like minecraft is understandably enjoyable and fun for a very long time, however, it is also susceptible to staleness. It needs people to fuel plans, and motives. It needs human effort to make it more then what it is at its core.
Thats where mods and gamemodes come into play, it takes some of the human imagination out of the equation so that people can focus on other easier to obtain goals.

Here's a couple examples of what I'm talking about.
Vanilla
[spoiler]Vanilla SMP:
strictly pve
half-assed pvp arena's no rewards.
automation is laggy, therefore no large machines
laggy machines from production get items removed from the market.
only thing left to do, is farm for resources and build random stuff.

Vanilla Creative:
Building
Critique
No recognition besides a rank, and reputation in the community.[/spoiler]
MINIGAME
[spoiler]MINIGAME SMP:
everything of the Vanilla +some
possible rewards for winning, IE shop credit
Bounties for random pvp at any moment (Requires signup)
Better shops/server activities.
Longer time on the server before boredom sets in.

MINIGAME Creative:
Build challenges
Timed building events
And large worlds for creations of every kind.
(Possible tools like WorldEdit, and Voxel) for higher ranking builders.[/spoiler]
Modded smp/creative
[spoiler]
Still able to add everything from the previous groups.
More indepth machines that reward hard work.
Self created minigames/goals to create new machines.
New dungeons/dementions to explore
New items armor and Mobs
Multiple paths to achieve the same thing
Contests and Goals to create more power/production lines.
More shop items
Better storage options.
And most of all More bragging rights.
Multiple platforms and custom options for private packs (Create your own unique packet of mods for your own community "FTB")
[/spoiler]


I hope that this helps a little with the discussion, but even modded servers inevitable see a decrease in popularity as a packet begins to be completed across the board. End game is End game, everything comes to an end eventually. But a strong community like this one can last far longer then any game. And ultimately its the people that make a community grow.

Shiny things can bring a mouse in, but its the food that keeps it there.

Overhaul the voting system... Some people can press vote with out actually voting.
Also a Minecraft forum thread/Planet Minecraft forum thread, Ect. would attract some new players as well.

Hate to say it but some white listed servers sometimes have more players then Opticraft at times and they only rely on forum threads to keep them active.

Just an note, I wouldn't waste keyboard clicks on suggestions for the SMP server or this website. Without optical there can be no progress on either. However the Classic team is always open for ideas.

Quote from: xDeeKay on December 21, 2015, 03:04:16 PM
Just an note, I wouldn't waste keyboard clicks on suggestions for the SMP server or this website. Without optical there can be no progress on either. However the Classic team is always open for ideas.

Classic is still accessible? I tried logging into it a few months ago and it wouldn't let me join (even with xwom)

oops I meant Creative. I will forever mix the two up.
But yeah, all my attempts to access Classic have failed too. I was able to get on earlier in the year with the right Java and WoM version, but it must have been luck because I haven't been able to since.

Quote from: xDeeKay on December 21, 2015, 03:47:58 PM
oops I meant Creative. I will forever mix the two up.
But yeah, all my attempts to access Classic have failed too. I was able to get on earlier in the year with the right Java and WoM version, but it must have been luck because I haven't been able to since.

I've tried too lately, no luck, I only seem to be able to play classic singleplayer ://

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Quote from: xDeeKay on December 21, 2015, 03:47:58 PM
oops I meant Creative. I will forever mix the two up.
But yeah, all my attempts to access Classic have failed too. I was able to get on earlier in the year with the right Java and WoM version, but it must have been luck because I haven't been able to since.

I've tried too lately, no luck, I only seem to be able to play classic singleplayer ://

May the millions of spleef arenas rest in peace

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Quote from: xDeeKay on December 21, 2015, 03:47:58 PM
oops I meant Creative. I will forever mix the two up.
But yeah, all my attempts to access Classic have failed too. I was able to get on earlier in the year with the right Java and WoM version, but it must have been luck because I haven't been able to since.

I've tried too lately, no luck, I only seem to be able to play classic singleplayer ://

May the millions of spleef arenas rest in peace

forever in our hearts

I've started the classic server back up. It crashed and went unnoticed. I am actually unsure of how you even log in anymore though... But its up

Quote from: optical on January 03, 2016, 01:09:37 AM
I've started the classic server back up. It crashed and went unnoticed. I am actually unsure of how you even log in anymore though... But its up

There is a post by Xeadin in the classic archive with detailed instructions and download links to log on to classic. Is there any way you could copy the info on this post and re-post it somewhere so we can view it?

I logged onto classic about a year ago with no problems, but I lost the info on how to do it.

I posed one too but unfortunately the Classic Support board was deleted entirely