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Before you read the rest of this, read this. Don't get me wrong, our staff are GREAT! Its just that I've seen great suggestions denied because they went against the rules.

What I mean is that, take the post about silk touch on spawners (I'm too lazy to link). It was rejected because it went against the rule, spawners can't be owned. I personally think that was a great idea. All that I'm trying to say is that as some famous person who's name i can't remember said, "Rules are meant to be broken. I'm not saying that everyone should grief and spam and such, I'm saying that the staff could perhaps be a little more open minded, responding with "This is a good idea, but since it goes against the rules, I'll have to speak with optical or an admin."

To summarize: Our staff are great. Good suggestions have been denied because they're against unnecessary rules. (Is the rule about spawners really, truly, needed?

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

hmmmm.. staff being more open minded? sounds good, but also
to make sure the open mindedness (not sure if that is even a
word) doesnt to into carelessness (ditto), mabye their could
be something like a "for" and "against" which people could post
how the suggestion would help them, or if how it would put them
at a disadvantage (I don't know if the staff already do this sort
of thing, but i will suggest it anyway).

e.g.
allowing silk touch to work on spawners:
for: allows u to make exp farm (posted by: random_guy)
against: it could be used for trolling and killing lots of people
if it were a hostile mob spawner (posted by:theantigriefguy)

you get the idea

Quote from: square_skull on March 22, 2013, 10:35:11 PM
hmmmm.. staff being more open minded? sounds good, but also
to make sure the open mindedness (not sure if that is even a
word) doesnt to into carelessness (ditto), mabye their could
be something like a "for" and "against" which people could post
how the suggestion would help them, or if how it would put them
at a disadvantage (I don't know if the staff already do this sort
of thing, but i will suggest it anyway).

e.g.
allowing silk touch to work on spawners:
for: allows u to make exp farm (posted by: random_guy)
against: it could be used for trolling and killing lots of people
if it were a hostile mob spawner (posted by:theantigriefguy)

you get the idea

Skull i am with you one hundred percent on this:  being open minded is always a good thing.  It allows you to see different ideas that may benefit what ever is going on.  Also like you said, it is a good idea until it gets out of hand and open mindedness turns into "sure, pour lava on that guys house: it may light the nether portal" this exact event i am sure will never happen, but you get the idea

Just saying...silk touch will never be enabled in spawners. It isn't available on vanilla and it won't be enabled here

When we say that something is going against the rules it doesn't mean that we make the rules up on the spot, the admins discuss it with themselves and make up a decision.
Also, for every rule there is a legitimate reason to it. Do you think that the admins added the rules just so they can feel like they have power? Honestly, we don't really like to remove some stuff, but for one reason or another we just have to do it.

Quote from: FIREBALL4801 on March 22, 2013, 10:44:23 PM

Quote from: square_skull on March 22, 2013, 10:35:11 PM
hmmmm.. staff being more open minded? sounds good, but also
to make sure the open mindedness (not sure if that is even a
word) doesnt to into carelessness (ditto), mabye their could
be something like a "for" and "against" which people could post
how the suggestion would help them, or if how it would put them
at a disadvantage (I don't know if the staff already do this sort
of thing, but i will suggest it anyway).

e.g.
allowing silk touch to work on spawners:
for: allows u to make exp farm (posted by: random_guy)
against: it could be used for trolling and killing lots of people
if it were a hostile mob spawner (posted by:theantigriefguy)

you get the idea

Skull i am with you one hundred percent on this:  being open minded is always a good thing.  It allows you to see different ideas that may benefit what ever is going on.  Also like you said, it is a good idea until it gets out of hand and open mindedness turns into "sure, pour lava on that guys house: it may light the nether portal" this exact event i am sure will never happen, but you get the idea

I agree 100%. That was exactly what I meant when I posted (except for the lava part).

Quote from: square_skull on March 22, 2013, 10:35:11 PM
hmmmm.. staff being more open minded? sounds good, but also
to make sure the open mindedness (not sure if that is even a
word) doesnt to into carelessness (ditto), mabye their could
be something like a "for" and "against" which people could post
how the suggestion would help them, or if how it would put them
at a disadvantage (I don't know if the staff already do this sort
of thing, but i will suggest it anyway).

e.g.
allowing silk touch to work on spawners:
for: allows u to make exp farm (posted by: random_guy)
against: it could be used for trolling and killing lots of people
if it were a hostile mob spawner (posted by:theantigriefguy)

you get the idea

I like the idea about the pro con thing...

Quote from: raul7legend on March 22, 2013, 11:30:19 PM
When we say that something is going against the rules it doesn't mean that we make the rules up on the spot, the admins discuss it with themselves and make up a decision.
Also, for every rule there is a legitimate reason to it. Do you think that the admins added the rules just so they can feel like they have power? Honestly, we don't really like to remove some stuff, but for one reason or another we just have to do it.

I looked at the rules again and all of them make sense (except for the spawner one, but whatever). So anyway, thanks for the responses. Feel free to lock this.