Started by Wyboth, February 01, 2013, 03:52:36 AM
I read the entire thing
Quote from: ^_^ kag ^_^ on February 02, 2013, 01:58:10 AMIt doesn't matter what it's dropped from, or what it is, everything falls at 14.4622 m/s2 in Minecraft. I also made the comparison to real life in the article.
I have an idea:
compare the drop of a certain block from the drop key (q), drop from a despensor, and drop from a dropper (1.5)
then compare that to another certain block
then compare those to real life
Quote from: Wyboth on February 01, 2013, 09:12:43 PM[/spoiler]Quote from: clawstrider on February 01, 2013, 04:51:34 PMFalling speeds wouldn't change, but terminal velocity would. The buttons got nowhere near terminal velocity, however.Quote from: Wyboth on February 01, 2013, 12:04:55 PMQuote from: clawstrider on February 01, 2013, 08:09:06 AMIt could be part of the cause of cuboid bodies, but that will require more research.
Larger muscles on earth than MC
Cuboid bodies could reflect on that fact.
Could also be why it is easier to pick up blocks (all 27*64 of them).
This could also be why it is easier to destroy blocks, due to a smaller gravitational force holding them together and in place.
Also, did you look into air resistance? It could well be different.
I don't think it would explain why the player can carry so many blocks, since smaller gravity plus smaller muscles still means that you could carry about the same amount of mass.
This also could explain why it is easier to destroy blocks, but it would only explain a small part of it because the force is 73% of ours.
Also, atmosphere depends on things other than gravity. Take Venus for example. It has nearly the same mass as Earth, but it has 95 times the atmospheric pressure of Earth. I would need other information to determine atmospheric pressure on the ME.
Thank you for the speculation, I appreciate it.Quote from: 360OLLIE on February 01, 2013, 11:32:44 AM
Most interesting experiment ever. Jeez! (You must be good at math!)
Haha, I'm not in Pre-Calculus and AP Physics for nothing. Glad you liked it!
Ofc about the more research, I was just throwing guesses about.
It could be that we have the same size muscles as on MC; the two guesses aren't related.
27% is a decent amount though.
I didn't mean pess gravity = less atmosphere , I meant falling speeds could be changed by atmosphere density, right?
Quote from: Wyboth on February 02, 2013, 06:55:01 PM[/spoiler]
I have realized an error in my calculations. I had found the correct distance fallen, but I had not actually found the acceleration. It turns out that the acceleration was double the distance fallen, meaning the real mass of the ME is 2.22 * 1026kg, making it 38.28 times as massive as the Earth, and making the force of gravity 147.4% the gravity on Earth. I have updated the paper with these new values. This means that organisms on the ME would experience a greater force of gravity than those on Earth. I regret the error and would like to inform everyone of the change.
Edit: I also circled the buttons in each frame to make it easier to see.
Edit 2:Quote from: proush600563 on February 02, 2013, 04:55:46 AM
I am amazed lol
Wyboth you are both insane and a genius
Edit : also [spoiler]Quote from: Wyboth on February 01, 2013, 09:12:43 PM[/spoiler]Quote from: clawstrider on February 01, 2013, 04:51:34 PMFalling speeds wouldn't change, but terminal velocity would. The buttons got nowhere near terminal velocity, however.Quote from: Wyboth on February 01, 2013, 12:04:55 PMQuote from: clawstrider on February 01, 2013, 08:09:06 AMIt could be part of the cause of cuboid bodies, but that will require more research.
Larger muscles on earth than MC
Cuboid bodies could reflect on that fact.
Could also be why it is easier to pick up blocks (all 27*64 of them).
This could also be why it is easier to destroy blocks, due to a smaller gravitational force holding them together and in place.
Also, did you look into air resistance? It could well be different.
I don't think it would explain why the player can carry so many blocks, since smaller gravity plus smaller muscles still means that you could carry about the same amount of mass.
This also could explain why it is easier to destroy blocks, but it would only explain a small part of it because the force is 73% of ours.
Also, atmosphere depends on things other than gravity. Take Venus for example. It has nearly the same mass as Earth, but it has 95 times the atmospheric pressure of Earth. I would need other information to determine atmospheric pressure on the ME.
Thank you for the speculation, I appreciate it.Quote from: 360OLLIE on February 01, 2013, 11:32:44 AM
Most interesting experiment ever. Jeez! (You must be good at math!)
Haha, I'm not in Pre-Calculus and AP Physics for nothing. Glad you liked it!
Ofc about the more research, I was just throwing guesses about.
It could be that we have the same size muscles as on MC; the two guesses aren't related.
27% is a decent amount though.
I didn't mean pess gravity = less atmosphere , I meant falling speeds could be changed by atmosphere density, right?
It seems there is no wind resistance (or that it is so small it does not effect anything) seeing as every block falls at the same rate.
Wyboth why don't your retry this with sand or gravel blocks and drop them with a piston? Since those blocks actually have "gravity" I think it would be a neat twist to the experiment.
If the ME is anything like our Earth, or any planet for that matter, the sand/gravel would fall at the same rate as the buttons would. If the distances are off by a fraction of a meter, that is probably because of a difference in orthographic projection. I would think they would have the same rates. I'm too lazy to do this now, but I might just look in the future.
Quote from: NotABronie on February 03, 2013, 11:46:16 PMThanks!
holy crap Wy this is really cool!!!
Quote from: Pensfan121 on February 05, 2013, 12:05:42 PMHaha, thanks. I also posted it on Minecraft Wiki. It's still there, so I take that as an accomplishment.
I think you just put random numbers in and went to minecraft wiki.......nah I'm joking this is cool
Quote from: Morrison1996 on February 05, 2013, 12:33:22 PMThank you! I would have just looked inside of the code, but I wanted to emulate real world science. I.E. in real life, you can't look inside the code for the acceleration of gravity.
All I can say is wow. You sir have to much time on your hands lol. All games operate on rules (I haven't coded any but I have created some games using different programs.) One of the hardest rules to understand is the gravity rule. You explained it very well. Good job.
Quote from: Wyboth on February 02, 2013, 02:34:53 AM
It doesn't matter what it's dropped from, or what it is, everything falls at 14.4622 m/s2 in Minecraft. I also made the comparison to real life in the article.
Quote from: zwaan111 on February 05, 2013, 06:55:07 PMI haven't confirmed that yet, but I will check soon. I can't do it today, though. And thank you.Quote from: Wyboth on February 02, 2013, 02:34:53 AMwell, there are objects in minecraft that fall slower than that, like sand and dragon eggs.
It doesn't matter what it's dropped from, or what it is, everything falls at 14.4622 m/s2 in Minecraft. I also made the comparison to real life in the article.
nice piece of maths and physics.
