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Justin Bieber is the embodiment of everything that is wrong in the mainstream music industry and modern pop culture.

Quote from: Xeadin on July 12, 2012, 04:34:25 AM
I have no problems with topics like these, but if all we're gonna be doing here is bicker at each other and start up unnecessary flame wars, this topic will be locked.

Personally, I have no thoughts about Justin Bieber or any of those 'bad' music artists. The only reason why I don't like haters is because they have no real reason to hate or they make up something that is not true. If you have a good reason to hate someone or something, kudos to you.

I kind of agree with you, but oh well, as they say, haters gonna hate. Not saying that I like him though.

Quote from: davioo on July 12, 2012, 05:28:02 AM
You guys might hate him and say his music is god awful, but the kid is like 18-19 years old and has countless awards won, a movie made for him hundreds of thousands of girls dying to meet him and millions of dollars. Im not saying I like his music (personally I think it's not extraordinary but its not bad (remember he still has the video with the most views on youtube lol) ) so you got to give him props for that. Plus hes Canadian so yeah!

heres a list of some awards / achievements he got, now tell me hes a failure lol : [spoiler]American Music Awards
(2010) Artist of the Year – WON
(2010) Favorite Pop/Rock Male Artist – WON
(2010) T-Mobile Breakthrough Artist – WON
(2010) Favorite Pop/Rock Album – WON

(2011) Favorite Male Artist – Pending

BET Awards
(2010) Best New Artist – Nominated

Billboard Awards
(2011) Top New Artist – WON
(2011) Top Social Artist – WON
(2011) Top Streaming Artist – WON
(2011) Top Digital Media Artist – WON
(2011) Top Pop Album – WON
(2011) Top Streaming (video) – WON
(2011) Fan Favorite – WON
(2011) Top Male Artist – Nominated
(2011) Top Billboard 200 Artist – Nominated

Brit Awards
(2011) International Breakthrough Artist – WON

CMT Music Awards
(2011) Collaborative Video of the Year – WON

Georgia Music Hall of Fame Awards
(2011) Bill Lowery Horizons Award – WON

Grammy Awards
(2011) Best New Artist - Nominated
(2011) Best Pop Vocal Album – Nominated

Juno Awards
(2010) Album of the Year – Nominated
(2010) Pop Album of the Year – Nominated
(2010) New Artist of the Year – Nominated

(2011) Best Album – WON
(2011) Best Artist – Nominated
(2011) Best Pop – WON
(2011) International Album of the Year – Nominated

Meus Prêmios Nick Awards
(2010) Favorite International Artist – WON

MTV Brazil Music Awards
(2010) International Artist – Won

MTV Europe Music Awards
(2010) Best New Act – Nominated
(2010) Best Male – WON
(2010) Best Push Act – WON

MTV Video Music Awards
(2010) Best New Artist – WON
(2011) Best Male – WON

Much Music Video Awards
(2010) UR FAVE: New Artist – WON
(2010) UR FAVE: Canadian Video – WON
(2010) International Video of the Year by a Canadian – Nominated

MTV Movie Awards
(2011) Best Jaw Dropping Moment – WON

Much Music Video Awards
(2011) UR FAVE: Artist – Won
(2011) International Video of the Year by a Canadian – WON

Myx Music Awards
(2010) Favorite International Video – WON

NBA All-Star Celebrity Game
(2011) MVP Award – WON

NRJ Music Awards
(2011) International Breakought of the Year – WON

Kids Choice Awards Nickelodeon
(2011) Favorite Male Singer – WON
(2011) Favorite Song ("Baby") – WON

O Music Awards
(2011) Favorite Animated GIF – Nominated
(2011) Best Fan Forum – Nominated

People's Choice Awards
(2011) Favorite Breakout Artist – Nominated
(2011) Favorite Music Video – Nominated

Teen Choice Awards
(2010) Choice Music: Male Artist – WON
(2010) Choice Music: Breakout Artist Male - WON
(2010) Choice Summer Music Star: Male – WON
(2010) Choice Fanatic Fans – Nominated
(2010) Choice Music: Pop Album – WON

(2011) Choice Male Hottie - Won
(2011) Choice Music: Male Artist – Won
(2011) Choice Red Carpet Fashion Icon: Male – Nominated
(2011) Choice TV: Villain – Won
(2011) Choice Twit – Won

TRL Awards
(2010) Best International Act – WON

VH1 Do Something Awards
(2011) Do Something Music Artist – WON

World Music Awards
(2010) Best Pop Act – Nominated
(2010) Best New Artist - Nominated

Young Hollywood Awards
(2010) Newcomer of the Year – WON

Other Achievements and Honors
(2010) King of Internet, most searched person on Google
(2010) Top 12 Most Charitable Celebrities of the Year
(2010) #1 most viewed video "Baby"

Read more: Justin Bieber Awards and Achievements — JUSTIN BIEBER ZONE //Latest News, Pics, Lyrics, Videos, Chats, Forums and more. http://www.justinbieberzone.com/awards/#ixzz20NnfPrT8
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That doesn't mean he deserves them.

If you think of it, his fanbase goes around his good looks. For those girls he's the sexiest man alive, and if he says vote for me for this award 500000000 billion girls will vote for him. They won't sit through and listen to the other nominees and judge who has better music.

Theres only 7 Billion people in the world XD
I think XD

Quote from: mini25252525 on July 12, 2012, 06:19:02 AM
Theres only 4 Billion people in the world XD
I think XD

http://www.worldometers.info/

Quote from: Kurseddragon on July 12, 2012, 06:20:56 AM

Quote from: mini25252525 on July 12, 2012, 06:19:02 AM
Theres only 4 Billion people in the world XD
I think XD

http://www.worldometers.info/

I edited my post and made you look dumb 

Quote from: mini25252525 on July 12, 2012, 06:44:21 AM

Quote from: Kurseddragon on July 12, 2012, 06:20:56 AM

Quote from: mini25252525 on July 12, 2012, 06:19:02 AM
Theres only 4 Billion people in the world XD
I think XD

http://www.worldometers.info/

I edited my post and made you look dumb 

It's stuck in the quote, buddy.

Besides, you put "I think." So I could just be clarifying.

Quote from: Kurseddragon on July 12, 2012, 06:48:51 AM

Quote from: mini25252525 on July 12, 2012, 06:44:21 AM

Quote from: Kurseddragon on July 12, 2012, 06:20:56 AM

Quote from: mini25252525 on July 12, 2012, 06:19:02 AM
Theres only 4 Billion people in the world XD
I think XD

http://www.worldometers.info/

I edited my post and made you look dumb 

It's stuck in the quote, buddy.

Besides, you put "I think." So I could just be clarifying.

Buddy.
Screw You.

Back on topic.

Beiber sent $1 million to Japan after the disaster.
That went noticed for about one day and then (at least from what I've noticed) never spoken of again.
Kinda shows that no one cares about his acts of kindness; more about his looks and failures.

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You think justin is nice?? He just does that so people think he is.
http://soundcloud.com/gawker/bieberhangup-1
Go to that link and listen to the recording, At around 20seconds is where he makes fun of the guys dead mother...
Yeah that's real nice.

Quote from: TheRealFamous on July 12, 2012, 07:26:02 AM
You think justin is nice?? He just does that so people think he is.
http://soundcloud.com/gawker/bieberhangup-1
Go to that link and listen to the recording, At around 20seconds is where he makes fun of the guys dead mother...
Yeah that's real nice.

If this was directed at me assuming that I thought he was nice, I never said that.
I was just showing that any nice thing he does doesn't even matter.

If it wasn't directed at me, well, I still don't think he's nice.

Quote from: TheRealFamous on July 09, 2012, 10:26:29 PM
I dont hate him just cause he is rich and famous or he has a hot girlfriend, I don't care about all that. I hate him because his music sucks very much and he is not the only one I hate. I also hate Nikki Manaj, Drake, Lil Wayne, Etc. Because now the 'New' generation of music is crap and just plain stupid.

AGREED 1000%

These "New" generation music artists would have NEVER made it back in the days before the big record labels and their million dollar editing studios.  Half of these artists simply CAN'T SING!  I'd venture to say that 80% of the music industry today has absolutely NO talent, and those who have real talent aren't being picked up by the major record labels until they prove themselves on something like American Idol.  Daughtry anyone?

This topic is about Beiber though, so let's talk about him now, and no I'm not a "Hater" because I have reasons to dislike him as a music artist.  Got that?  I don't dislike him as a person, I dislike him as a music artist.  First, his fame was built by a studio, he didn't earn it himself.  Second, he didn't write his own music, the studio did.  I mean come on, singing about love when you're 10 is like talking about sex when you're 5, you can't possibly expect to be taken seriously.  Third, he can't sing!  Have you ever heard him live?  I mean live, not at his lip sync concerts.  Well, I have unfortunately, and he can't sing.  So yea, I have reasons to hate Beiber as a music artist, and they're all valid.  HE didn't win any awards, and HE didn't go platinum, the STUDIO DID in his name!  Comparing Beiber to history's musical greats is about as silly as comparing a HP Printer to Vincent Van Gogh.

Call me old and outdated, but I long for the days where musical talent didn't come from a studio.  The Beatles, Gordon Lightfoot, John Denver, BB King, Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash, Jonathon Davies, Chester Bennington, Marko Saaresto...  Those are true artists!  They didn't need studios to "fix" their voices, they were/are truly gifted people.

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If only morten2ela is still admin and sees this post....