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Started by Nick3306, June 27, 2012, 05:41:40 AM

Melon and pumpkin discussion

theacp127

I would like to know. What's so bad about people getting money from pumpkins and melons? For me its a easier way to get more materials to build with. I feel that this will cause many people to leave because it will take to long to get money other ways now, and they dont' want to take the time to do it. Some people have mentioned that they will resort to mining everything and selling it. This will ruin the Opticraft landscape. I wouldn't want to play and a server that is completely dug up. Could we survive without the ability to get money quickly? The answer is yes, buy many people won't want to do. I really don't see what will be accomplished by getting rid of that privilege.   :-\

Nick3306

Quote from: theacp127 on June 29, 2012, 01:46:25 AM
I would like to know. What's so bad about people getting money from pumpkins and melons? For me its a easier way to get more materials to build with. I feel that this will cause many people to leave because it will take to long to get money other ways now, and they dont' want to take the time to do it. Some people have mentioned that they will resort to mining everything and selling it. This will ruin the Opticraft landscape. I wouldn't want to play and a server that is completely dug up. Could we survive without the ability to get money quickly? The answer is yes, buy many people won't want to do. I really don't see what will be accomplished by getting rid of that privilege.   :-\
It will even it out for the players who dont want to spend hours afking to get money.

Nhataley

that is how i make my money my option is that is should stay

Chief149

Well I admit, the idea of taking away all of the melons and pumpkins is a good idea as far as balancing out the economy, and reducing cpu usage, but there is also the downside stated above that this could also result in the loss of the beautiful opticraft landscape. Now perhaps there could be a plugin written to reset parts of the landscape, but really in the end there might have to be a world reset every so often (look at the ENTIRE guest world for example, and I wouldn't want to lose my hours of hard work to a map reset :/). Nevertheless, that is a very real possibility.


Alternative idea to banning the ability to sell melons and pumpkins (Don't flame me unless you read the entire text in the spoiler):
[spoiler]Now what if we maybe got to the root of the problem, and banned automatic farms instead? That would help the CPU problem. Then onto the economy. Cut the price of melons and pumpkins in half. Now I understand you all are hell-bent on removing the items completely (or at least the ability to sell them while letting us still purchase them), and I don't mean to get in the way of you all doing that, but maybe that could be a way to settle the whining from players. After all, redstone timers are currently banned I believe due to their cpu demand (unless the timer is based off of the growth time of a pumpkin or something which some players have implemented), so why not just do the same with redstone automatic farms? Once again, I am not trying to fight you all in removing the ability to sell pumpkins, and melons to the market, but I am simply bringing up an alternative possibility which could solve the cpu and economic problems, as well as slow down some of the ruccus. Heck, maybe the prices of melons and pumpkins wouldn't need to be lowered when players have to spend more time manually digging up all their melons and pumpkins, but the chances of that are a little iffy at best.[/spoiler]

Implementation of banning redstone farms (if you read the full text of the previous spoiler):
[spoiler]If a redstone farm is found, and the player is not online or is afk, then the player can be banned. The player then will make an appeal asking about what happened, and will then find out that the redstone farm needs to be removed (and the player will be unbanned). If the player is online and not afk then the moderator+ can simply warn the player that the farm needs to go or will be removed by an admin. If farm is not soon removed then an admin can worldedit the farm away.[/spoiler]

cschurz

let's just go ahead and ban redstone completely.

one of the best features of the new world is that we can literally regenerate any part of the terrain now.

it will not become as bad as the guest world simply given the fact that we can automagically regenerate landscape. (until the world generator algorithm changes in a new minecraft patch, which doesn't happen each patch)

D00MKNlGHT

Let's ban mobs too, as too many mobs=lag... If u banned redstone, and everything that causes lag, this has turned to OPTICRAFT CLASSIC SERVER =.=

bhoughton

Quote from: D00MKNlGHT on June 29, 2012, 04:32:11 AM
Let's ban mobs too, as too many mobs=lag... If u banned redstone, and everything that causes lag, this has turned to OPTICRAFT CLASSIC SERVER =.=

I don't like classic...

Redstone is fine, as long as it isn't some huge contraption.

KILL THE CHICKEN FARMS MWHAHHAA... chickens cause too much lag. They need to be removed. Not banned, just decreased in size/numbers.

Chief149

Well the idea is to make everyone actually work for their pumpkins instead of AFKing while the autofarms do the work.

roblox

a better way of making money is by making a tree farm and sell the woodenplanks its $200 for 64 wood. and a sugetion can you put wheat on the market pliz?

ragequiter13

#159
ima say one thing, I.D.K. people, its only mellons, sell iron and gold, its called minecraft isnt it.


EDIT: I.D.C.****

Boshiwarrior

Everyone is now finding other ways to make money... This will never end... If players are so obsessed with making money we can better remove Pistons. And don't be mad at me, but to the guys we are obsessed with making money. I know it is used for decoration but if it possible we can keep the Pistons that are already placed. Or we can simply let a Mods+ or OPs+ remove money making machines. That would be easier.
Now I need to get over the hate comments!

bubblekiller

Idea, maybe we can add a ticket systme that u get from melons and punkins only, but with the tickets you can only buy protection stone, and still use normal cash to but tickets only work on protection stones. Because masove farms 90%of the time are to make enough money for protecton stones

-bubblekiller

prinkey00

Quote from: cschurz on June 29, 2012, 04:19:08 AM
let's just go ahead and ban redstone completely.


Are you being serious? Please don't. I like making things with redstone that are completely unrelated to making money in anyway whatsoever.

Victor1261

Quote from: prinkey00 on June 29, 2012, 10:10:16 PM
Quote from: cschurz on June 29, 2012, 04:19:08 AM
let's just go ahead and ban redstone completely.


Are you being serious? Please don't. I like making things with redstone that are completely unrelated to making money in anyway whatsoever.

Says the richest person on the server who says he ONLY SOLD 2 STACKS OF MELONS.  :P

DiamondKnight629