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Spamarian · October 22, 2011, 09:41:19 PM

Nick, I believe that your culture doesn't allow you to see the reality and the results of years of technology.
We live in 2011, with a web full of cracked and illegal copies.
Anything you want, you can find it.
You may have paid any SWare you use, but in other countries, this is not happening.
For example in Greece, if you say that you paid for something offered in Internet, they will laugh with you.
Anyway.. I dont search web for Swares, but only for tracks..

Nick3306 · October 22, 2011, 09:45:07 PM

Quote from: spamarian on October 22, 2011, 09:41:19 PM
Nick, I believe that your culture doesn't allow you to see the reality and the results of years of technology.
We live in 2011, with a web full of cracked and illegal copies.
Anything you want, you can find it.
You may have paid any SWare you use, but in other countries, this is not happening.
For example in Greece, if you say that you paid for something offered in Internet, they will laugh with you.
Anyway.. I dont search web for Swares, but only for tracks..

Oh i see, you are saying it is ok to rip off companies who work hard on their products since other people do it. Tons of people dont pay for things like photoshop here, but I like to pay for things and support the developers and stuff.

All in all, people who download stuff illegally are no better than the common thief, and dont you try to convince yourself otherwise.

lLLEGAL · October 23, 2011, 01:41:16 AM

Darn. Now im a bad guy.

matt88222 · October 23, 2011, 02:03:43 AM

If this is illegal, and I'm really not certain it is (though it certainly seems like it)... I'm pretty sure it can't be on these forums. It probably violates the terms of the hosting service used to keep this site up and running....

Nick3306 · October 23, 2011, 05:25:07 AM

Edited the first post.

omaroo2 · October 23, 2011, 10:51:10 AM

Omg guys its not illegal im sharing it with my friends...
Ugggh

Okay serial removed ask me if you want it............

Terrewee · October 23, 2011, 11:31:05 AM

Quote from: Nick3306 on October 22, 2011, 09:45:07 PM
All in all, people who download stuff illegally are no better than the common thief, and dont you try to convince yourself otherwise.

so your saying im a master thief?
great to hear >.>
i simply don't have the money to pay for everything...

clawstrider · October 23, 2011, 11:44:50 AM

Quote from: Nick3306 on October 22, 2011, 09:45:07 PM
Quote from: spamarian on October 22, 2011, 09:41:19 PM
Nick, I believe that your culture doesn't allow you to see the reality and the results of years of technology.
We live in 2011, with a web full of cracked and illegal copies.
Anything you want, you can find it.
You may have paid any SWare you use, but in other countries, this is not happening.
For example in Greece, if you say that you paid for something offered in Internet, they will laugh with you.
Anyway.. I dont search web for Swares, but only for tracks..
Oh i see, you are saying it is ok to rip off companies who work hard on their products since other people do it. Tons of people dont pay for things like photoshop here, but I like to pay for things and support the developers and stuff.

All in all, people who download stuff illegally are no better than the common thief, and dont you try to convince yourself otherwise.

^This^
I am 99% sure I have never downloaded anything illegally in my life, even though I have no access to credit cards etc. I have (some) money, my parents just hate me spending it. I still don't download illegally.
Then again, atleast I don't pay for photoshop, as my mum (was/semi-retired) a graphic designer so we already have it

Quote from: omaroo2 on October 23, 2011, 10:51:10 AM
Omg guys its not illegal im sharing it with my friends...
Ugggh

Okay serial removed ask me if you want it............

You saying that if you went to a shop and stole something, but only for your friend, its fine?

omaroo2 · October 23, 2011, 03:29:55 PM

And did i steal my key o.o??

Spamarian · October 23, 2011, 03:47:39 PM

No omaroo2. They say it for me.
In my country, there arent restrictions for that, but in some other countries all are after payment.
Ok..

omaroo2 · October 23, 2011, 04:37:38 PM

Quote from: spamarian on October 23, 2011, 03:47:39 PM
No omaroo2. They say it for me.
In my country, there arent restrictions for that, but in some other countries all are after payment.
Ok..

It's legal here too

but ofc stealing is not, and if it was illegal then torrent sites would be blocked right now, just like lime wire.

Nick3306 · October 23, 2011, 05:00:32 PM

Quote from: omaroo2 on October 23, 2011, 04:37:38 PM
Quote from: spamarian on October 23, 2011, 03:47:39 PM
No omaroo2. They say it for me.
In my country, there arent restrictions for that, but in some other countries all are after payment.
Ok..

It's legal here too

but ofc stealing is not, and if it was illegal then torrent sites would be blocked right now, just like lime wire.

The reason torrent sites cant be blocked is because they dont host any of the illegal files, they just link users to other users that have uploaded those illegal files, not handling the files themselves. I would expect you to know how torrents work before arguing about if they are legal or not.

omaroo2 · October 24, 2011, 02:11:58 AM

Quote from: Nick3306 on October 23, 2011, 05:00:32 PM
Quote from: omaroo2 on October 23, 2011, 04:37:38 PM
Quote from: spamarian on October 23, 2011, 03:47:39 PM
No omaroo2. They say it for me.
In my country, there arent restrictions for that, but in some other countries all are after payment.
Ok..

It's legal here too

but ofc stealing is not, and if it was illegal then torrent sites would be blocked right now, just like lime wire.
The reason torrent sites cant be blocked is because they dont host any of the illegal files, they just link users to other users that have uploaded those illegal files, not handling the files themselves. I would expect you to know how torrents work before arguing about if they are legal or not.

Same with limewire which is blocked now
check www.limewire.com

Spamarian · October 24, 2011, 05:58:26 AM

I believe that limewire blocked for its content.
There where really illegal files that were sharing around the world...
Moreover, the most torrents are illegal. It is filesharing I know, peer-to-peer. They address the user to another according to the research. When you go to cinema to watch a movie and you copy it and you apload it on the web next day of first projection, this is illegal. I don't say that it is not good for someone that cares for the last euro/dollar in his/her pocket. But, this makes it illegal. Also, piratebay i think blocked for a while one year ago.. I am not 100%sure..
I want to ask you Nick, do you have Vdownloader or other application that downloads videos from youtube? If yes, when you use it, do you believe it is legal?

Nick3306 · October 24, 2011, 06:02:21 AM

Quote from: spamarian on October 24, 2011, 05:58:26 AM
I believe that limewire blocked for its content.
There where really illegal files that were sharing around the world...
Moreover, the most torrents are illegal. It is filesharing I know, peer-to-peer. They address the user to another according to the research. When you go to cinema to watch a movie and you copy it and you apload it on the web next day of first projection, this is illegal. I don't say that it is not good for someone that cares for the last euro/dollar in his/her pocket. But, this makes it illegal. Also, piratebay i think blocked for a while one year ago.. I am not 100%sure..
I want to ask you Nick, do you have Vdownloader or other application that downloads videos from youtube? If yes, when you use it, do you believe it is legal?

I dont download videos from youtube, but it could be illegal, it depends on the video.

And ya not all torents are illegal, which is one of the reasons why the government fails at shutting down torrent sites (e.x. Isohunt)