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Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: NateN on April 30, 2012, 01:20:59 am
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I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I'd thought I'd take a whack at it.
I'm suggesting a rank between trusted and mod, maybe call it Honorable.
The real feature I think would be the ability to deal with lava and fire, but not have the responsibility of a mod. Also, (and I know this could go bad), have discounts for donations? JUST A SUGGESTION
I think in difficulty rating it would be between mod and trusted. While it has no true requirements, things looked for could be:
-Active on forums
-Helpful on forums
-Amount voted
-Helps with water placement in game, almost every time they're asked
-Always friendly
-Shows more faith to the server than trusted, but doesn't require the commitment of a mod.
-Knows many people in the server, strong community role
-NO previous ban history
-Has been active in the server for a long period of time (2 months+?)
I've seen threads about giving Trusted these abilities, but don't remember a thread suggesting a separate rank.
Just a suggestion, don't flame me about how this been suggested 242352678iloveyou4583476 times.
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I don't really think this is needed. There is a reason that they only let moderator+ place lava. I could see a few people having this rank but I don't think that it is that much of a hassle to call a mod over to place fire and lava.
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That IS Trusted.
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They can't place lava Yomo
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I don't really think this is needed. There is a reason that they only let moderator+ place lava. I could see a few people having this rank but I don't think that it is that much of a hassle to call a mod over to place fire and lava.
Well that being said, it's not that much of a hassle to ask a mod to place water either, so why have trusted? My thoughts would be these players would play a "decorator" role, helping people place water and lava and lighting portals, while the mods could do more "staff" things like fixing grief and such, or helping clean the area.
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I don't really think this is needed. There is a reason that they only let moderator+ place lava. I could see a few people having this rank but I don't think that it is that much of a hassle to call a mod over to place fire and lava.
Well that being said, it's not that much of a hassle to ask a mod to place water either, so why have trusted? My thoughts would be these players would play a "decorator" role, helping people place water and lava and lighting portals, while the mods could do more "staff" things like fixing grief and such, or helping clean the area.
Why not have a "helper" rank. they would play this role of a "decorator" yet they also get the ability to kick over players. they would have to be the most trusted of the trusted.
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I usually only get asked to place lava once a week so they wouldn't be helping too much. Also, trusted can place fire.
A helper rank would have to be part of the staff then.
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Why not have a "helper" rank. they would play this role of a "decorator" yet they also get the ability to kick over players. they would have to be the most trusted of the trusted.
Eh, not necessarily kick people, just get lava placement. I for one would lava a TON more if I had it readily accesible.
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Why not have a "helper" rank. they would play this role of a "decorator" yet they also get the ability to kick over players. they would have to be the most trusted of the trusted.
Eh, not necessarily kick people, just get lava placement. I for one would lava a TON more if I had it readily accesible.
That is the exact reason why it is not readily accessible.
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Why not have a "helper" rank. they would play this role of a "decorator" yet they also get the ability to kick over players. they would have to be the most trusted of the trusted.
Eh, not necessarily kick people, just get lava placement. I for one would lava a TON more if I had it readily accesible.
That is the exact reason why it is not readily accessible.
For decorative purposes (what else would it be used for?). Plus, that's why m suggesting it to be harder to get than trusted, maybe just as hard as mod, without the responsibility of having to be a mod. This is a survival server (that phrase gets thrown around a lot), and in survival you can place lava.
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Why not have a "helper" rank. they would play this role of a "decorator" yet they also get the ability to kick over players. they would have to be the most trusted of the trusted.
Eh, not necessarily kick people, just get lava placement. I for one would lava a TON more if I had it readily accesible.
That is the exact reason why it is not readily accessible.
For decorative purposes (what else would it be used for?). Plus, that's why m suggesting it to be harder to get than trusted, maybe just as hard as mod, without the responsibility of having to be a mod. This is a survival server (that phrase gets thrown around a lot), and in survival you can place lava.
The last thing we need is more decorative lava that increases the chances of a mistake happening.
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Well that being said, it's not that much of a hassle to ask a mod to place water either, so why have trusted?
It is not the Trusted player's responsibility to place water for others, it is the mod's. Trusted rank signifies that that player has gained the trust of the staff, gaining water for themselves to use, not to give out. Most of them do only to show their dedication and helpfulness.
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Why not have a "helper" rank. they would play this role of a "decorator" yet they also get the ability to kick over players. they would have to be the most trusted of the trusted.
Eh, not necessarily kick people, just get lava placement. I for one would lava a TON more if I had it readily accesible.
That is the exact reason why it is not readily accessible.
For decorative purposes (what else would it be used for?). Plus, that's why m suggesting it to be harder to get than trusted, maybe just as hard as mod, without the responsibility of having to be a mod. This is a survival server (that phrase gets thrown around a lot), and in survival you can place lava.
The last thing we need is more decorative lava that increases the chances of a mistake happening.
But think about it. This member would have to be EXTREMELY trusted to get this rank. As Witchawa said, this could possibly be for people that want something more than Trusted, but don't want the hassles and possible stress from being Moderator. Not everyone wants a ton of responsibility, but instead they may want a little bit of it. I could quite possibly seeing this idea become realistic, so, good idea witchawa. But, in regards to lowering the donations, they are donations. It's not like they are actual products. Granted they come with some extras, but the main thing regarding them is that they're donations.
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I like this idea. I think they should also be able to teleport to people like mods to help with lava/water.
P.S. I think we should be call it Elite ;)
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It seems that the higher ups can trust the people, they just can't trust the lava :P
Too bad lava damage from player placed lava can't be disabled :/
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As a trusted, I believe lava should stick with mods. Mods can handle lava and grief requests, whereas trusted can deal with water and fire (like it already is)
As for the rank in between, it might be an interesting implementation, however, like witchiwa has stated, it will probably serve a "decorative" purpose (our most trusted members). We could give them teleport or "chat mod" powers....maybe. Adding extra block-related power permissions (lava, water blocks) should be out of the question, though. Otherwise, you may as well just call them mod.
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As a trusted, I believe lava should stick with mods. Mods can handle lava and grief requests, whereas trusted can deal with water and fire (like it already is)
As for the rank in between, it might be an interesting implementation, however, like witchiwa has stated, it will probably serve a "decorative" purpose (our most trusted members). We could give them teleport or "chat mod" powers....maybe. Adding extra block-related power permissions (lava, water blocks) should be out of the question, though. Otherwise, you may as well just call them mod.
And as I said:
Why not have a "helper" rank. they would play this role of a "decorator" yet they also get the ability to kick over players. they would have to be the most trusted of the trusted.
Eh, not necessarily kick people, just get lava placement. I for one would lava a TON more if I had it readily accesible.
That is the exact reason why it is not readily accessible.
For decorative purposes (what else would it be used for?). Plus, that's why m suggesting it to be harder to get than trusted, maybe just as hard as mod, without the responsibility of having to be a mod. This is a survival server (that phrase gets thrown around a lot), and in survival you can place lava.
The last thing we need is more decorative lava that increases the chances of a mistake happening.
But think about it. This member would have to be EXTREMELY trusted to get this rank. As Witchawa said, this could possibly be for people that want something more than Trusted, but don't want the hassles and possible stress from being Moderator. Not everyone wants a ton of responsibility, but instead they may want a little bit of it. I could quite possibly seeing this idea become realistic, so, good idea witchawa. But, in regards to lowering the donations, they are donations. It's not like they are actual products. Granted they come with some extras, but the main thing regarding them is that they're donations.
This could be the rank for people who want more power than Trusted, but less worries than Moderator. Granted, I do see your point.
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I personally would like to help more, I would have tried applying for mod but I don't feel I'm on enough to gain that rank.
The idea is a great one but I can't see it happening to be honest.
/Smite
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Too bad lava damage from player placed lava can't be disabled :/
With a Plugin is everything possible. I have my own bukkit server and I have seen tons of Plugins. But if you disabled it, the survival will get lower. Lava is a true survive thing!
I don't think we need a new rank. We already have a lot of trusted and moderators on Opticraft. This rank is only a upgrade for trusted persons to place lava. If there comes a new rank we need more reason to make a new rank.
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can someone tell me how u rank up in the game.
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can someone tell me how u rank up in the game.
By being awsome.
Read this http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,6935.0.html
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This just won't happen. We've had too many discussions about needless ranks. We cannot afford to have the ranks list clogged up with semi-useless ranks unless the rank is Absolutely necessary.
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As Xeadin stated, this is not the first time something like this is requested. On classic, we had multiple discussions about adding a "Mod" rank (between Builder and Op) and as you can see, it never happened. I honestly doubt this idea and considering the amount of moderators there currently is, I don't think this is necessary.
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As Xeadin stated, this is not the first time something like this is requested. On classic, we had multiple discussions about adding a "Mod" rank (between Builder and Op) and as you can see, it never happened. I honestly doubt this idea and considering the amount of moderators there currently is, I don't think this is necessary.
The main idea was to somehow give non-mods the ability to place lava. Be it through a new rank or other means, I don't care. Maybe like a trused+? Like an extension to trusted, but not a whole new rank
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There is a reason they don't have lava...There isn't any point to it as well. They don't need it often. It isn't a hassle for mods to place lava for players.
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There is a reason they don't have lava...There isn't any point to it as well. They don't need it often. It isn't a hassle for mods to place lava for players.
When you start getting into more advanced generators, lava is almost always required. As well as lava on every work site for disposal. Decorative purposes, as well as using it in a furnace to easily smelt a whole stack at little cost.
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We dont have a non staff rank that can place lava because we dont want a lot of lava on the server. Lava is dangerous and mistakes can turn out very bad.
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We dont have a non staff rank that can place lava because we dont want a lot of lava on the server. Lava is dangerous and mistakes can turn out very bad.
How about the ability to teleport to players to help with placing water/fire? Maybe they can also "Moderate" chat as moderators are sometimes busy with grief and any other requests for help.
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Trusted members role isn't to help players. That is by their own free will. If we gave them the teleport ability and a way to moderate chat, that would make them staff members.
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I guess the whole point is I wish there was someone to have some of the power of a mod without the responsibility of being a mod. But thinking about it, it IS survival, and not a big deal. It was just a suggestion
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There is no need for an "Honorable" rank. As somebody said, I think it was logan or Nick, there's a reason why only mod+ can place lava. And is it really a big problem to ask, " can a mod place lava for me?"
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There is no need for an "Honorable" rank. As somebody said, I think it was logan or Nick, there's a reason why only mod+ can place lava. And is it really a big problem to ask, " can a mod place lava for me?"
Well, wouldn't it start to get annoying if you are making something such as a lava or obsidian room that requires a lot of lava specifically placed.
"Place it here?"
"No, over a bit,"
"Okay, here?"
"No! Down a bit!"
At this point, especially if multiple requests for that specific mod had been made, he / she will have gotton annoyed. As you can see, this is why we could have Honourable rank.
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We dont have a non staff rank that can place lava because we dont want a lot of lava on the server. Lava is dangerous and mistakes can turn out very bad.
I understand that you want it to save some time for mods but in reality, we don't want lava any place people could fall in. It is too much of a risk factor and we wouldn't want the "Honorable Rank" to be placing it for players because moderators barely have the ability to place lava. We recently got the ability to place lava so if they are worried about moderators messing up think of having regular players with lava.
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Water requests can be just that difficult, beno......you just need patience and trust in the mod that responds to your lava request.
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http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,9455.0.html
(http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,9455.0.html)
Read this.
I think a new rank for decorative purposes and PvP monitoring could be introduced. It could eb a very limited position, call it Game Keeper. I know it's extremely unlikely, but think about how much a successful and well thought out system of this could be. If we could write original code and make it exclusive Opticraft, it would boost numbers tremendously. I know, I'm just trusted and I don't have much say in the server. But I think if we could Professionally incorporate this, it would truly be a good addition to the server.
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Water requests can be just that difficult, beno......you just need patience and trust in the mod that responds to your lava request.
In mod we trust? :P
But yeah I guess until lava doesn't pose such a high threat to the server, we'll just have to leave it to them. It's a shame that you have to be tied to other obligations like anti-griefing duty and other player requests just to have the ability to use lava (which is in increasing demand lately) but I guess thats just how it is....
I sorta asked this earlier but I'll ask it again: Is it possible for player placed lava to be harmless to other players but world generated lava to still be dangerous? In my opinion that'd recitfy the lava issue because then ppl (most likely trusted) could use the lava for decoration without changing the overall challenge of avoiding world generated lava.
Also if player placed lava can't be programed to be harmless think of it like this: Water can be destructive too if put into the wrong players hands. It's pretty easy to drown an unsuspecting player given the right scenario. It can also destroy crops, torches, paintings and other things *coughredstonecircuitItookdaystomakecough* Fire spreading wouldn't be an issue because I heard its disabled? Also like water placement, that player is responsible for their lava plament and must use it in a place that woundn't compromise their rank.
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Why cant we all just conclude that for now we wont be adding any new ranks. We talked it over a little bit but for now we will leave it the way it is
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I'm 1/2 with this... also, (off topic) How do i make a picture??? Like Bantam's, Logan's, etc. Im also know as arboretum01 btw. :)
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I'm 1/2 with this... also, (off topic) How do i make a picture??? Like Bantam's, Logan's, etc. Im also know as arboretum01 btw. :)
If I am correct, I think you are talking about their signature. Just go to signaturecraft.us .Then make and customize your signature.
When you are done, copy the link.
Then go to your profile and click Forum Profile Information. Finally, paste the link under signature and save. And you should be good to go from there.