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Massive Griefing, becomes unbearable!!!!
Hasan (Tabooti):
Perhaps a discounted protection stone, as opposed to completely free.
perhaps a 75% discount for a city price for like 20 protection stones, I don't know... :P
tbpb2010:
Lol I just had raul attempt to undo grief on like 20 different small holes on my project. I know many ppl have already seen my build, if not here's the link :P http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,6624.0.html and you can imagine that a structure like that gets greifed just about every day.
I feel for a project that has such a large scale size, a person should be able to request to get it zone off, similar to how ppl can request private worlds in classic for their large projects. If the person put that much effort into building it, I don't see why that person should be denied an easier way of protecting it relative to smaller structures. Honestly I think zoning would be a better fix because the mods would use up more time undoing the grief on a non-zoned project then enabling friends to build on it. (Just think of the ratio of griefers to ppl who actually help build)
I think the requirements for requesting zoning should be something like this:
trusted rank+ (that way the person's build would most likely be known by the ops beforehand and the ops can make an easier judgement on whether this is worht their time)
build must exceed ???x???x??? I'm not sure what the minimum dimensions for a zone is (I guess the ops could decide what a worthy size would be)
person must be working on this build alot (Meaning this project has to be something the builder is serious about finishing, again something that can be judged easier if that person is trusted. Also they should have a topic on it)
build must be getting greifed on multiple occasions (if the build isn't getting greifed alot then obviously a protection measure like this wouldn't be need)
cschurz:
--- Quote from: tbpb2010 on March 13, 2012, 07:17:02 pm ---Lol I just had raul attempt to undo grief on like 20 different small holes on my project. I know many ppl have already seen my build, if not here's the link :P http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,6624.0.html and you can imagine that a structure like that gets greifed just about every day.
I feel for a project that has such a large scale size, a person should be able to request to get it zone off, similar to how ppl can request private worlds in classic for their large projects. If the person put that much effort into building it, I don't see why that person should be denied an easier way of protecting it relative to smaller structures. Honestly I think zoning would be a better fix because the mods would use up more time undoing the grief on a non-zoned project then enabling friends to build on it. (Just think of the ratio of griefers to ppl who actually help build)
I think the requirements for requesting zoning should be something like this:
trusted rank+ (that way the person's build would most likely be known by the ops beforehand and the ops can make an easier judgement on whether this is worht their time)
build must exceed ???x???x??? I'm not sure what the minimum dimensions for a zone is (I guess the ops could decide what a worthy size would be)
person must be working on this build alot (Meaning this project has to be something the builder is serious about finishing, again something that can be judged easier if that person is trusted. Also they should have a topic on it)
build must be getting greifed on multiple occasions (if the build isn't getting greifed alot then obviously a protection measure like this wouldn't be need)
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that is completely unprotected? you've had 19 people help with it and you can't pool together the 500k or so it would take to protect it all?
the point is that you shouldn't be able to just come on here and start a massive project and expect some staff member to protect it for you. it's a purely survival server... protecting your own creations is just a part of it. it can't really be the staffs problem if you start a project that you can't support financially.
if you can design a better protection system that requires no staff intervention, is easy for players to use, can't be easily used to grief, and revolves around the economy, then feel free to suggest it.
lbien:
I got banned when I first started on this server because I stole a bunch of glow stones.
Once I got back on, I was under the impression that I could build and if someone griefed me, I could contact a mod, get the grief rolled back and everything is good.
I spent a LOT of time building a starship, probably close to 30 hours. Over the course of two weeks it became a ruin. The mods where way too busy to roll it back. When a mod finally came to help, I needed to point everything out. The nose of the ship was near level 128, so I couldn't point out every damaged area. The mod eventually told me "BRB" and never came right back.
I think the mods spend so much time fixing grief they don't even want to take on such a massive, griefed structure.
So, I let the starship go and it is just a pile of blocks now, no one knows what it was. Kind of sad, I don't have the motivation to build anything because no matter where it is, it gets torn apart. Trying to report grief is a pain because the mods are too busy. So the players that grief me get away with it now.
The mods should have a way to roll back a certain area easily. I don't know the technical details, but something like that would have helped me and my starship.
cschurz:
--- Quote from: lbien on March 13, 2012, 11:03:32 pm ---I got banned when I first started on this server because I stole a bunch of glow stones.
Once I got back on, I was under the impression that I could build and if someone griefed me, I could contact a mod, get the grief rolled back and everything is good.
I spent a LOT of time building a starship, probably close to 30 hours. Over the course of two weeks it became a ruin. The mods where way too busy to roll it back. When a mod finally came to help, I needed to point everything out. The nose of the ship was near level 128, so I couldn't point out every damaged area. The mod eventually told me "BRB" and never came right back.
I think the mods spend so much time fixing grief they don't even want to take on such a massive, griefed structure.
So, I let the starship go and it is just a pile of blocks now, no one knows what it was. Kind of sad, I don't have the motivation to build anything because no matter where it is, it gets torn apart. Trying to report grief is a pain because the mods are too busy. So the players that grief me get away with it now.
The mods should have a way to roll back a certain area easily. I don't know the technical details, but something like that would have helped me and my starship.
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your entire starship may be recoverable with a single carefully crafted logblock redo command. try contacting one of the higher ups via mumble- it's far easier to be helped when you're there to talk to.
edit: I got drowse to use a /redo command on it- while the sand didn't all fall into the correct place, it's quite a bit better right now. We do care, and will undo the grief, but buy a damn protection stone.
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