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Massive Griefing, becomes unbearable!!!!
Sephir1:
Hey all Opti People,
some of you might now me, since i loved to build i would say "sepcial" buidlings on opticraft.
I love this Server!! Its pretty much the best i ever played on, a nice community, great and fast reaction from Mods/Opīs and Admin...
It all worked fine, you got griefed from time to time but, the staff could handle it well and it never was a big problem...
But that changed dramactically the last few weeks....im happy for opticraft to get this popular, like the server deserve it, BUT I canīt be, that EVERYDAY i log in my tree and several other buildings like the japanese house or my water sphere got nearly completely destroyed!!!! Thats not a little grief anymore, thats a big destruction which wasting hours of hours of hard work =((
My way of minecraft is to build awesome structures in survival mode, because creative is no challenge for me..."itīs my way of minecraft!" and it was a lot of fun to do so....but now its just a pain and to frustrating to bear anymore, see your buildings day by day got destroyed this much!!!!
HELP OPTICRAFT!!! PLZ OPTICALZA DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!! My buildings was i would say about 80% to 90% protected with ps stones, but still there was a lot of damage, lately my ps stones failed completely and didnīt protect anything, even worse if i tried to replace them, they became common coal ores!! Wtf!!!oO!! (logan recorded it with me) the money is lost and i dont have the money to get any acceptable protection for my buildings....
My friends "DerSheriff", "Sinedh" and "DarkMarie" also took a look about the buildings and also got some mods to fix grief even when im not on, sheriff told my yesterday that my tree got about 40-50% destroyed whitout even noticing it, he let repair the grief, a few hours later i join the game...same thing...logan and me took it like forever to fix it again...then i log out, came back a few hours later..THE FUCKING SAME!!!!!!!!!!! Wtf is wrong with the people?!?!?!?!?! If there wonīt be done anything about it, i REALLY have to say a very sad goodbye to Opticraft...and a lot of people i really like there, like drowse, persians, logan, royal, tbpb, sheriff, sinedh, marie, gurra, festhos and and and....
plz i dont know what can be done, but there need to be something done...
Thanks all for your time
Much love Sephir1
Zezenov:
As far as I'm concerned, the whole buying protection stones system is flawed. I don't see why protection from griefers has to be something that is earned . If the mods can clearly see that you built something nice, why can't it be protected? Protection stones are all well and good for small things, but expansive builds need something else. I'm pretty sure they're planning on doing something like this in the future.
Tobs:
Optical has new anti-grief methods to come hopefully, but at the moment he is busy working on much more important things for the server.
Don't let griefing make you leave, it's really annoying and I know that but at the end of the day its one less griefer in the game once they are banned. A lot of the time we even fix stuff without you even having to be online. But as I said, we do our best to control it and there should be preventional things to come.
cschurz:
--- Quote from: Zezenov on March 11, 2012, 07:41:55 pm ---As far as I'm concerned, the whole buying protection stones system is flawed. I don't see why protection from griefers has to be something that is earned . If the mods can clearly see that you built something nice, why can't it be protected? Protection stones are all well and good for small things, but expansive builds need something else. I'm pretty sure they're planning on doing something like this in the future.
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this is a survival server. it is not about making the fanciest build. it's about earning things and surviving. having mods check out your build is not a fun job for mods. mods should interfere as little as possible.
while i can agree with you that griefing with this many players online is getting to be a problem, i don't think we should just hand out protection stones to people that made something neat, either.
Zezenov:
--- Quote from: deject3d on March 12, 2012, 03:22:01 am ---
--- Quote from: Zezenov on March 11, 2012, 07:41:55 pm ---As far as I'm concerned, the whole buying protection stones system is flawed. I don't see why protection from griefers has to be something that is earned . If the mods can clearly see that you built something nice, why can't it be protected? Protection stones are all well and good for small things, but expansive builds need something else. I'm pretty sure they're planning on doing something like this in the future.
--- End quote ---
this is a survival server. it is not about making the fanciest build. it's about earning things and surviving. having mods check out your build is not a fun job for mods. mods should interfere as little as possible.
while i can agree with you that griefing with this many players online is getting to be a problem, i don't think we should just hand out protection stones to people that made something neat, either.
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I disagree. I mean, what is 'surviving' really? Growing some wheat in the garden, tossing that together into some bread, and having a proper munch on it from time to time? Then waving your metal sword at the unfortunate skeleton passerby? Pretty much. And then you say 'earning things'? Earning what exactly? Money? To buy more blocks with? Or perhaps diamonds to make tools to get blocks faster? That's all well and good but the only purpose of acquiring these blocks is to actually place them. Thus the purpose on a survival server, as on a creative server is to build things. The only difference between the two types of servers is that on the survival server you get a handicap where you have to collect the blocks yourself and deal with the occasional monster and empty stomach. But the purpose is still very much to build things. Which leads back into what I said about the protection stones. The ONLY purpose of a protection stone is to protect oneself from griefing. Which then makes me wonder why the server makes it so hard to get enough of these for large builds. Why should we, in the case of big areas, have to spend hours and hours mining to make millions of dollars just to protect ourselves from griefing? Why can't we just build and have the server take care of the griefing problem for us?
--- Quote from: deject3d on March 12, 2012, 03:22:01 am ---
i don't think we should just hand out protection stones to people that made something neat, either.
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Why is this? Oh look I built something cool GOD FORBID I want to actually protect that creation of mine. No, the way the server is basically set up now is, Oh, you made this massive awesome place, that's cool I guess. Oh what's that, you don't like getting griefed? Well HAHA, I guess you'll just have to go SLAVE IN THE MINES FOR 9 HOURS TO COBBLE(lol) ENOUGH MONEY TOGETHER TO AFFORD THAT Protection from griefing comes at a premium around here.
Well, that's my two cents on the matter. Adequate protection from griefers isn't something that should have to be earned. Although, I do agree with your point that it wouldn't make sense to have mods flying around giving out the protections. Which is why I think that for small things, protection stones should still be the way to go. But there should be a place where someone can apply for protection over a large area. And when the protection is gotten this way, it will be awarded to the person asking for it only if the thing they want protected is large enough to warrant a special protection stone or whatever. This will only be in the case of large things that acquiring enough protection stones for isn't really feasible. So this isn't for say, "Oh hey I built this hut out in the middle of nowhere, can I haz the protections now?" but just for where the amount of money it would take to protect is truly astronomical.
As I said before I think they're planning on doing something along these lines.
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