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Prismarine
DeeKay:
Mojang being a "filthy rich" company doesn't make any difference. They don't have to pay anyone anything, and any genuine person wouldn't request compensation from what was supposed to be volunteer job.
I don't think Mojang took advantage of anything at all. Mojang acquired Bukkit, and in return EvilSeph was hired by them. You'd think such an important thing like this wouldn't be forgotten by him, but instead, everyone from Bukkit claimed to know nothing about this. It was even publicly announced back in 2012.
To say Mojang were taking advantage of Bukkit would be to say Seph, Bukkits leader himself was in on it too. But I sure hope you have an actual person to blame, and that you're not just generalising "Mojang" as the whole company.
No idea why you keep putting some sort of blame on Dinnerbone. He's just 1 out of many devs at the company, and to say he promised to update the software is irrelevant. He said all this when it was feasible. He and everyone else had no idea Wolverness was going to spark the way he did. What did you want Dinnerbone to do? Totally ignore the DMCA and release an update, and just ask Wolverness to let it slide? You're crazy.
Lando_V:
--- Quote from: Nick3306 on February 09, 2015, 06:30:39 pm ---How can you not understand this? If bukkit wasnt owned by mojang, they still wouldn't have gotten Paid. That means bukkit was not exploiting them because they wereworking for free before.
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I do understand. I said "indeed" about the not have gotten paid part, as in "I agree".
I did however disagree with you about the "baby" part.
Also, I think that Mojang knew very well they had ppl working for them for free doing very important work, while they were making tons of money themselves. Opinions vary on this but I think it can be seen as exploitation. That's all.
To get back on topic, what do you think about the unobtainable sponge? As it should be part of 1.8 could you pls add it to the market?
Cheers
--- Quote from: xDeeKay on February 09, 2015, 06:34:19 pm ---You're crazy.
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Pls don't make this personal.
I'm not saying in here what I think about you either.
We just have a difference of opinion on this matter.
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Tobs:
--- Quote from: Lando_V on February 09, 2015, 07:55:19 pm ---Also, I think that Mojang knew very well they had ppl working for them for free doing very important work, while they were making tons of money themselves. Opinions vary on this but I think it can be seen as exploitation. That's all.
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The fact of the matter is Mojang in no way need to give any money away, of course they are making money - they are a company, why should they have to give it to people working on a project that is voluntary? It's not as important as the vanilla game itself in no way, in fact, over 50% of the players that play are in single player, when you think of the split between different multiplayer services Bukkit accounts way under 50%.
The people of Bukkit do it out of their free time, they are not working for Mojang, they will have either their own job or still be in education. I really don't see what you fail to realize, they are not even volunteers for Mojang, they are volunteers for the Bukkit community. Leaving their own community because Mojang has been there all along, and trying to protect what they have done? Alright.
I said I'd talk to Nick about the new items.
Lando_V:
--- Quote from: Tobs on February 09, 2015, 08:19:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: Lando_V on February 09, 2015, 07:55:19 pm ---Also, I think that Mojang knew very well they had ppl working for them for free doing very important work, while they were making tons of money themselves. Opinions vary on this but I think it can be seen as exploitation. That's all.
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The fact of the matter is Mojang in no way need to give any money away, of course they are making money - they are a company, why should they have to give it to people working on a project that is voluntary? It's not as important as the vanilla game itself in no way, in fact, over 50% of the players that play are in single player, when you think of the split between different multiplayer services Bukkit accounts way under 50%.
The people of Bukkit do it out of their free time, they are not working for Mojang, they will have either their own job or still be in education. I really don't see what you fail to realize, they are not even volunteers for Mojang, they are volunteers for the Bukkit community. Leaving their own community because Mojang has been there all along, and trying to protect what they have done? Alright.
I said I'd talk to Nick about the new items.
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I think neither Mojang nor the volunteers did anything illegal so we cannot blame them for that. This is purely ethical and both sides have things against them there. I'm not very much in favor of capitalism because it causes huge differences in wealth. That's why I have the opinion I have on this matter and others might have other opinions.
Added to that, if they would have paid them it would have been a win win situation. They didn't, so everybody suffered. The volunteers, Mojang and the community. (Mojang the least of all of course.) Was not paying them the best solution? I don't think so. Did they have to pay them? Of course not.
When Nick replied I though it was a good moment to ask about the sponge. I didn't mean to ignore you in any way or form.
Thank you for talking to him.
gavin1928374655:
Adding prismarine to the market would be cool, being able to sell it would be nice, but I think you would end up having people making large farms again. You can actually farm the new mobs extremely quickly with the proper setup. (Probably a con, depending on how you look at it)
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