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Crafter Application - dfroster
DJAlphaWolf:
I think the design of a build needing more exterior or interior design is a matter of opinion. Who are we to judge a person's build because we want to see it that way? If the original builder chose not to include as much interior while instead focusing more on exterior, then they had a good reason to. It is their build and it is their vision.
Each build is a representation of the artistic imagination of the builder. Interior is not always a necessary aspect to a build though it does help create a more realistic and heavily detailed world for the viewers of the build. It's more something to please the viewers at this point though, since this is large scale.
When building on a large scale such as this, interior is no longer the focus. It's mostly exterior. It's all about accuracy, beauty and symmetry. It's about leaving you absolutely breathless.
The reason I see interior being forced into builds nowadays is because no one is impressed by anything anymore. We have seen all kinds of builds already and its just like "ya cool...but give me more detail because I want it". And so it became sort of a unanimous decision that now EVERY build must have both interior and exterior. Which is a wrong way of judgement. This is a creative freebuild server. We should be able to express ourselves however we see fit and not simply to appease others' standards. If we decide there will be less interior design than exterior then that is our choice. And ya I get it. He is making an application to become crafter, something the higher staff will be judging. So, in the end, its really their decisions and their rules. However, I would hope there is a fairer judging standard than just "hurr durr no interior. only exterior. no crafter for u ".
Rant complete. Feel free to bash it.
Good luck, doug.
TheWholeLoaf:
You are correct, a builder can build any which way he prefers, however, a crafter should be well rounded.
Nick3306:
--- Quote from: DJAlphaWolf on January 07, 2015, 12:23:13 am ---I think the design of a build needing more exterior or interior design is a matter of opinion. Who are we to judge a person's build because we want to see it that way? If the original builder chose not to include as much interior while instead focusing more on exterior, then they had a good reason to. It is their build and it is their vision.
Each build is a representation of the artistic imagination of the builder. Interior is not always a necessary aspect to a build though it does help create a more realistic and heavily detailed world for the viewers of the build. It's more something to please the viewers at this point though, since this is large scale.
When building on a large scale such as this, interior is no longer the focus. It's mostly exterior. It's all about accuracy, beauty and symmetry. It's about leaving you absolutely breathless.
The reason I see interior being forced into builds nowadays is because no one is impressed by anything anymore. We have seen all kinds of builds already and its just like "ya cool...but give me more detail because I want it". And so it became sort of a unanimous decision that now EVERY build must have both interior and exterior. Which is a wrong way of judgement. This is a creative freebuild server. We should be able to express ourselves however we see fit and not simply to appease others' standards. If we decide there will be less interior design than exterior then that is our choice. And ya I get it. He is making an application to become crafter, something the higher staff will be judging. So, in the end, its really their decisions and their rules. However, I would hope there is a fairer judging standard than just "hurr durr no interior. only exterior. no crafter for u ".
Rant complete. Feel free to bash it.
Good luck, doug.
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Your argument makes sense and doesn't make sense at the same time. It makes sense that people build what they want and how they want, that's fine, but he is going for our rank. Our rank that we came up with has our standards, especially when it comes to the highest building rank there is.
Now the problem with this is it creates a kind of "build for the rank" mentality that we don't want. This server isn't supposed to be about suffering through a build to get a rank, it is supposed to be about building because you love to build and if you happen to pick up a few ranks along the way, cool.
Spartan:
--- Quote from: DJAlphaWolf on January 07, 2015, 12:23:13 am ---I think the design of a build needing more exterior or interior design is a matter of opinion. Who are we to judge a person's build because we want to see it that way? If the original builder chose not to include as much interior while instead focusing more on exterior, then they had a good reason to. It is their build and it is their vision.
Each build is a representation of the artistic imagination of the builder. Interior is not always a necessary aspect to a build though it does help create a more realistic and heavily detailed world for the viewers of the build. It's more something to please the viewers at this point though, since this is large scale.
When building on a large scale such as this, interior is no longer the focus. It's mostly exterior. It's all about accuracy, beauty and symmetry. It's about leaving you absolutely breathless.
The reason I see interior being forced into builds nowadays is because no one is impressed by anything anymore. We have seen all kinds of builds already and its just like "ya cool...but give me more detail because I want it". And so it became sort of a unanimous decision that now EVERY build must have both interior and exterior. Which is a wrong way of judgement. This is a creative freebuild server. We should be able to express ourselves however we see fit and not simply to appease others' standards. If we decide there will be less interior design than exterior then that is our choice. And ya I get it. He is making an application to become crafter, something the higher staff will be judging. So, in the end, its really their decisions and their rules. However, I would hope there is a fairer judging standard than just "hurr durr no interior. only exterior. no crafter for u ".
Rant complete. Feel free to bash it.
Good luck, doug.
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Well said. Best of luck to you doug!
DJAlphaWolf:
--- Quote from: Nick3306 on January 07, 2015, 01:36:09 am ---Your argument makes sense and doesn't make sense at the same time. It makes sense that people build what they want and how they want, that's fine, but he is going for our rank. Our rank that we came up with has our standards, especially when it comes to the highest building rank there is.
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I'm not arguing that he is applying for a rank based on your standards. That's true and I know that.
There is just this expectation to worry about interior just as much as exterior, which isn't the right message. A builder should feel comfortable with whatever they intend to create and not feel forced to add in details they don't deem necessary. Some builds are just meant to be interpreted "as a whole" rather than "look inside my incredibly realistic rendering of the inside of the Taj Mahal".
But I can see why such expectations exist for the higher building ranks of Builder and Crafter. I was just hoping that the lack of an aspect such as interior design isn't something that will heavily affect the final judgement of the builder's abilities. If there is a lack of one aspect, I'd hope the other aspects are just weighed a bit heavier than they would have if that aspect was there. So like lack of interior=slightly harder judgement on creativity, symmetry, concept, beauty, realistic factor, etc etc. But I am sure there probably is a much more complicated ranking process for Crafter than there is for Builder.
--- Quote from: Nick3306 on January 07, 2015, 01:36:09 am ---This server isn't supposed to be about suffering through a build to get a rank, it is supposed to be about building because you love to build and if you happen to pick up a few ranks along the way, cool.
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I absolutely 100% agree with this sentiment. Build freely as you please and accomplish rank ups as a side incentive.
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