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Mojang's recent EULA and TOS change megathread
OzzyKP:
Hmm, are they trying to squeeze out private servers to funnel more people into their own servers?
Nothing_:
Nothing is being restricted though, you can still play the whole game without donating. Sure you cant have mob disguises and such but as far as I know mojang doesn't have any control over the plug-ins. If you had to donate for permissions to break blocks or something of that source. I could be wrong but I still seriously doubt this will have anything impact on us.
--- Quote from: OzzyKP on June 13, 2014, 02:30:26 am ---Hmm, are they trying to squeeze out private servers to funnel more people into their own servers?
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It definitely seems that way, but blizzard tried the same thing with private WoW servers and those are still going strong as ever.
gavin1928374655:
--- Quote from: Nothing_________ on June 13, 2014, 01:36:53 am ---You aren't paying for money on opticraft. You are making a charitable donation and also getting some in game currency, its a loophole. World of Warcraft private servers and other games use this same loophole to avoid being shut down. This doesn't effect us at all.
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But that's the loophole they are trying to shut down...
--- Quote ---You cannot charge real-world cash for in-game currency
We don’t mind in-game currencies which are earned through playing, but you are not allowed to sell them for real-world cash. Remember – if the stuff you sell affects gameplay, we’re not cool with it.
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Also I agree they are trying to funnel into their own server system... with the new realms changes and additions it looks like mojang wants to start selling servers. I believe realms cost 13$ a month. You don't get access to server files though.
Also I like how prissy notch is being on twitter concering a game he ditched years ago, lol.
https://twitter.com/notch/status/476474677851062272
Mojang is messing with a system that shouldnt concern them.
--- Quote ---You are allowed to charge players to access your server
So long as the fee is the same for all players, you are allowed to charge for access to your server. You are not allowed to split your playerbase into paying, and non-paying users, nor can you restrict gameplay elements to different tiers of player.
Basically, if you’re charging for access to your server, you are selling a “ticket” and there can only be one type of ticket, regardless of how much people are willing to spend.
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So what if they start saying you can't restrict access at all, no whitelists, and no banning. "We decide who to ban"
Nick3306:
--- Quote from: Nothing_________ on June 13, 2014, 03:31:59 am ---Nothing is being restricted though, you can still play the whole game without donating. Sure you cant have mob disguises and such but as far as I know mojang doesn't have any control over the plug-ins. If you had to donate for permissions to break blocks or something of that source. I could be wrong but I still seriously doubt this will have anything impact on us.
--- Quote from: OzzyKP on June 13, 2014, 02:30:26 am ---Hmm, are they trying to squeeze out private servers to funnel more people into their own servers?
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It definitely seems that way, but blizzard tried the same thing with private WoW servers and those are still going strong as ever.
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That's the thing, they do have control over it all. Purely aesthetic things like our hat command or mob disguises are fine in their eyes, but things like paying for in game money they dont like at all. The whole point is they dont want people making money off of their game, and it makes sense in a way. The problem is that most servers use that money to pay huge server costs which is partly due to how horribly optimized minecraft actually is. It requires much more power to run server wise than it really should. If mojang goes through and actually starts enforcing this they will easily lose at least 50% of their private servers due to them not having enough money to support themselves. All in all, its a great way to kill their own game.
clawstrider:
I doubt they'll be able to police this change. They might shut down the first few servers, but at the end of the day, Mojang is a small indie dev, and their staff have better things to do.
I don't see a reason to change. If they decide to shut down every single account associated with a server that has donations, they might as well have killed Minecraft anyway, as far as I'm concerned.
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