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Mojang's recent EULA and TOS change megathread
LIEKABOWSE:
Please include all and only discussion about the recent changes in this thread so the general discussion board doesn't get blown up with the same topics.
https://mojang.com/2014/06/lets-talk-server-monetisation/
Now we've probably all heard of it at this point (at least anyone who ever browses mojang's home page or /r/minecraft)
Now basically nothing in that topic affects us but one point:
--- Quote ---You cannot charge real-world cash for in-game currency
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I'm not sure what we're going to do with that donation perk.. But yeah. Leave your comments and questions in the replies only please.
Thanks, liek
Edit: here's a TL;DR politely given by Dinnerbone:
--- Quote ---@Dinnerbone:
2014-06-12 18:04:57 UTC
Ingame currency to unlock gameplay stuff is fine. Real money to unlock gameplay stuff is not fine, nor money to buy the ingame currency.
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Gogar72:
Who donates for money these days anyways? I think we could use a donation perk, and hell, maybe it can just replace money. How about we bring the creative discussion and have a donation perk in order to get to the creative world, idk. It would fit within their rules as well. Plug in the words Creative Server into the quote.
Ingame currency to Unlock Creative World is fine. Real money to unlock Creative World is not fine, nor money to buy the ingame currency.
Now however, since it doesn't fit that well, you know how the first rule: You are allowed to charge players to access your server. Huhhh, Creative Server different thing than smp.opticraft.net kinda like classic? There you go, it would be okay and under the rules.
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tiggy26668:
--- Quote from: LIEKABOWSE on June 12, 2014, 11:51:33 pm ---
--- Quote ---Edit: here's a TL;DR politely given by Dinnerbone:
--- Quote ---@Dinnerbone:
2014-06-12 18:04:57 UTC
Ingame currency to unlock gameplay stuff is fine. Real money to unlock gameplay stuff is not fine, nor money to buy the ingame currency.
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so haven't read the new eula or anything but it seems from this that the concern is more so they don't want people going "you need to spend $5 to unlock dirt" where as with us anyone can use dirt (or any other example block) but if you spend money you can get large quantities of it without effort. we don't exactly restrict access to certain blocks unless you pay, which is what it seems like they wanna prevent.
Also and probably the more prevalent point is that we don't actually charge you for anything. It's a donation, not a price tag. you can get in-game currency right now for free and use it to acquire any block you please and the in-game currency isn't actually required in any way to play on the server. however should you choose to donate to the server (not required) you can choose to receive a "thank you reward" of in-game cash or various other options.
donate or not the server offers the same vanilla minecraft experience to anyone who chooses to play on it, all donating does is speed up the grind
Nothing_:
You aren't paying for money on opticraft. You are making a charitable donation and also getting some in game currency, its a loophole. World of Warcraft private servers and other games use this same loophole to avoid being shut down. This doesn't effect us at all.
Chipaton:
--- Quote from: Nothing_________ on June 13, 2014, 01:36:53 am ---You aren't paying for money on opticraft. You are making a charitable donation and also getting some in game currency, its a loophole. World of Warcraft private servers and other games use this same loophole to avoid being shut down. This doesn't effect us at all.
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"You are allowed to accept donations
You are allowed to accept donations from players. You can thank them publicly or in-game, but can’t give preferential treatment for donating. You are not allowed to restrict gameplay features in an attempt to make money." Thats from the post that was linked.
"Donations can only be received without giving anything in the game, everything else is a purchase. Using the correct term is important." From SeargeDP, a dev at Mojang.
This definitely affects us.
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