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Title: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: raul7legend on September 23, 2011, 06:57:37 pm
So I just came across this topic (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44629271/ns/technology_and_science-science/) today, and now, if confirmed, a good amount of minds are going to be blown. Will the formula of E=MC2 that we all grew up to know and love is wrong?
Here is a link for a Q/A topic about the faster than light neutrinos.
 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/sep/23/faster-light-neutrinos)
If this is true, this will be the most profound discovery in the last 100 years.
This will rewrite our understanding of the universe.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: Nick3306 on September 23, 2011, 07:05:11 pm
Interesting indeed.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: omaroo2 on September 23, 2011, 07:10:52 pm
well they made a teleporter that is faster than speed of light but imagine you sitting in it

ofc you will die.
so it cant be used
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: raul7legend on September 23, 2011, 07:13:44 pm
well they made a teleporter that is faster than speed of light but imagine you sitting in it

ofc you will die.
so they cant be used
Never doubt, anything can happen when we try.

Hell, we got to the moon because we tried, and people thought the same thing as you did.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: Nick3306 on September 23, 2011, 07:21:42 pm
well they made a teleporter that is faster than speed of light but imagine you sitting in it

ofc you will die.
so they cant be used
Never doubt, anything can happen when we try.

Hell, we got to the moon because we tried, and people thought the same thing as you did.
In theory we can travel in space faster than the speed of light, only problem is that in this theory, if something were to go wrong it would create a black hole and destroy earth, so you cant just "try" with these sorts of things.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: raul7legend on September 23, 2011, 07:33:10 pm
well they made a teleporter that is faster than speed of light but imagine you sitting in it

ofc you will die.
so they cant be used
Never doubt, anything can happen when we try.

Hell, we got to the moon because we tried, and people thought the same thing as you did.
In theory we can travel in space faster than the speed of light, only problem is that in this theory, if something were to go wrong it would create a black hole and destroy earth, so you cant just "try" with these sorts of things.
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fkym-assets%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Flist%2F000%2F170%2F718%2FInception_LeoSquint.png%3F1315178688&hash=5c5e54f626a13b9f0ec6cc44ca3f869c)
Also, not in theory, black holes are created by a high amount of density in a small area. Can't see how that will make a black hole. Also, you will need a black hole about the size of a nickel to destroy the Earth, the ones in CERN are about 1/1000000000th of that, and they only appear for about 1/10000 fraction of a second.
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsoft-arts.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F10%2Fcheckmate.jpg&hash=bf8090ccf2bb4c26fdff714ca412c5e0)

Ontopic - Apparently it's travelling around 299,798,454 metres per second, and the speed of light is around 299,792,458 metres per second, a big difference in science terms.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: omaroo2 on September 23, 2011, 07:51:01 pm
space shuttles takes hours to travel with

im talking about a teleporter that can teleport you to wherever you want to go in less than 1 sec then ofc you will die if u where in it
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: clawstrider on September 23, 2011, 07:54:49 pm
This is my problem though.
If you made a missile travel faster than light, then surely it would hit before you see it. So you would feel destruction, but not see it for several seconds... HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?????
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: raul7legend on September 23, 2011, 08:18:43 pm
space shuttles takes hours to travel with

im talking about a teleporter that can teleport you to wherever you want to go in less than 1 sec then ofc you will die if u where in it
Wormholes. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q80jDVBWIKI&feature=related)
This is my problem though.
If you made a missile travel faster than light, then surely it would hit before you see it. So you would feel destruction, but not see it for several seconds... HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?????
You got a vivid imagination, kid. That's what scientists thought until now, I, for one who's studying Astrophysics and Cosmology, believe another dimension is in play.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: Nick3306 on September 23, 2011, 08:23:32 pm
Raul i have no idea what your are talking about, but to be fair im not quite sure what i am talking about either. All i know is that we had to read an article for my physics class and that was what it said (in a lot more complex terms of course)
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: clawstrider on September 23, 2011, 08:26:27 pm
This is my problem though.
If you made a missile travel faster than light, then surely it would hit before you see it. So you would feel destruction, but not see it for several seconds... HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?????
You got a vivid imagination, kid. That's what scientists thought until now, I, for one who's studying Astrophysics and Cosmology, believe another dimension is in play.
Is that good? (Imagination)
And a dimension? How many have they found now?
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: raul7legend on September 23, 2011, 08:28:26 pm
This is my problem though.
If you made a missile travel faster than light, then surely it would hit before you see it. So you would feel destruction, but not see it for several seconds... HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?????
You got a vivid imagination, kid. That's what scientists thought until now, I, for one who's studying Astrophysics and Cosmology, believe another dimension is in play.
Is that good? (Imagination)
And a dimension? How many have they found now?

It's just my theory. Never said someone found a 5th dimension.

Fixed quote that was messed up in my post. - Claw
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: Nick3306 on September 23, 2011, 09:11:37 pm
On a side note, that chess picture you posted is not possible.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on September 23, 2011, 09:16:16 pm
I'll be the test subject.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: raul7legend on September 23, 2011, 09:22:38 pm
On a side note, that chess picture you posted is not possible.
Derp...
I posted a checkmate, if you didn't know.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: Nick3306 on September 23, 2011, 09:25:14 pm
On a side note, that chess picture you posted is not possible.
Derp...
I posted a checkmate, if you didn't know.
Yes but it is impossible to have 2 kings 1 space form each other, in case you didn't know.

And if you want to get really technical thats not a check mate, thats a forfeit.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: raul7legend on September 23, 2011, 09:29:43 pm
On a side note, that chess picture you posted is not possible.
Derp...
I posted a checkmate, if you didn't know.
Yes but it is impossible to have 2 kings 1 space form each other, in case you didn't know.

And if you want to get really technical thats not a check mate, thats a forfeit.
Smart ass...
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: Nick3306 on September 23, 2011, 09:30:30 pm
On a side note, that chess picture you posted is not possible.
Derp...
I posted a checkmate, if you didn't know.
Yes but it is impossible to have 2 kings 1 space form each other, in case you didn't know.

And if you want to get really technical thats not a check mate, thats a forfeit.
Smart ass...
Don't get angry because your picture was completely wrong. You have only yourself to blame for that.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: Implosions on September 24, 2011, 02:47:28 am
Which is why we call these "theories"...
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: Pilot10334 on September 24, 2011, 04:01:51 am
i believe omaroo is saying the g force from traveling the speed of light instantaneously would kill you...
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: cedric199870 on September 24, 2011, 08:37:50 am
On a side note, that chess picture you posted is not possible.
Derp...
I posted a checkmate, if you didn't know.

crap, forums are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo confusing, idk wheres what, idk how to make a topic or whatever its called, i dont even know how to reply to a topic, thats why i just clicked quote, but the main thing:

 spamarian said i must get a member to get my own map without griefers, how can i become a member?, i wanna get my own map where other ppl cant build
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: lLLEGAL on September 24, 2011, 09:26:29 am
Its nt yr own map, its member world.
You should be member by now, so type /j member in game.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: omaroo2 on September 24, 2011, 11:42:36 am
i believe omaroo is saying the g force from traveling the speed of light instantaneously would kill you...
exactly
like because of the pressure or speed your body particles will be separated for example

ice (solid) has a strong force of attraction so the particles are sooo close and soo strong if u heated it, its particles will move away from each other and becomes liquid if u heated it more its particles will have 0 force of attraction then it will become gas.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: raul7legend on September 24, 2011, 01:13:22 pm
i believe omaroo is saying the g force from traveling the speed of light instantaneously would kill you...
exactly
like because of the pressure or speed your body particles will be separated for example

ice (solid) has a strong force of attraction so the particles are sooo close and soo strong if u heated it, its particles will move away from each other and becomes liquid if u heated it more its particles will have 0 force of attraction then it will become gas.
Warping from place from place is possible,think of the world as a big fabric. All the space behind the warp ship would stretch, and all the place in front of the warp ship would fold, and a bubble around the ship wouldn't move.
It's possible, theoretically and mathematically. In 1995 20 top class mathematicians worked out an equation on how this will work.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: D00MKNlGHT on September 24, 2011, 01:26:06 pm
i believe omaroo is saying the g force from traveling the speed of light instantaneously would kill you...
exactly
like because of the pressure or speed your body particles will be separated for example

ice (solid) has a strong force of attraction so the particles are sooo close and soo strong if u heated it, its particles will move away from each other and becomes liquid if u heated it more its particles will have 0 force  of attraction then it will become gas.
it isnt zero its just very tiny force of attraction XD
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: omaroo2 on September 24, 2011, 01:42:43 pm
i believe omaroo is saying the g force from traveling the speed of light instantaneously would kill you...
exactly
like because of the pressure or speed your body particles will be separated for example

ice (solid) has a strong force of attraction so the particles are sooo close and soo strong if u heated it, its particles will move away from each other and becomes liquid if u heated it more its particles will have 0 force  of attraction then it will become gas.
it isnt zero its just very tiny force of attraction XD
almost no force of attraction *
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: clawstrider on September 24, 2011, 07:14:54 pm
i believe omaroo is saying the g force from traveling the speed of light instantaneously would kill you...
exactly
like because of the pressure or speed your body particles will be separated for example

ice (solid) has a strong force of attraction so the particles are sooo close and soo strong if u heated it, its particles will move away from each other and becomes liquid if u heated it more its particles will have 0 force of attraction then it will become gas.
Warping from place from place is possible,think of the world as a big fabric. All the space behind the warp ship would stretch, and all the place in front of the warp ship would fold, and a bubble around the ship wouldn't move.
It's possible, theoretically and mathematically. In 1995 20 top class mathematicians worked out an equation on how this will work.

I thought I read somewhere that everyone was ultra excited, then it was proved impossible (They made a mistake) :/
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: raul7legend on September 24, 2011, 07:33:53 pm
Listen, I'm just saying that anything is effing possible if we try, pessimism won't lead us to anywhere.

I never said that we'll make tomorrow a spaceship that will get us through space, it won't be in the few hundred years.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: Nick3306 on September 24, 2011, 10:52:17 pm
Listen, I'm just saying that anything is effing possible if we try, pessimism won't lead us to anywhere.

I never said that we'll make tomorrow a spaceship that will get us through space, it won't be in the few hundred years.
And where do you suppose we get the funding to try such things? A money tree?
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: clawstrider on September 25, 2011, 07:26:55 am
Listen, I'm just saying that anything is effing possible if we try, pessimism won't lead us to anywhere.

I never said that we'll make tomorrow a spaceship that will get us through space, it won't be in the few hundred years.
And where do you suppose we get the funding to try such things? A money tree?

We would need a money forest for that ;) Bending the fabrics of space can't be totally easy...
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: lLLEGAL on September 25, 2011, 08:10:21 am
Unless you are optical. ;)
*Asskissing*
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: marshytheman on September 25, 2011, 08:46:15 am
I will post this picture again as it fits this situation. :D


This was my expression when reading this...



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Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: raul7legend on September 25, 2011, 10:56:33 am
Just found out that Nikola Tesla knew about this in 1932 (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/09/nikola-tesla-predicted-faster-than-light-particles-in-1932/), this is apparently old news.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: lLLEGAL on September 25, 2011, 11:15:35 am
0.o thats a looong time ago! Shocking!
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: clawstrider on September 25, 2011, 11:53:49 am
Just found out that Nikola Tesla knew about this in 1932 (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/09/nikola-tesla-predicted-faster-than-light-particles-in-1932/), this is apparently old news.

No, he predicted it. There is a difference. One means you know for sure, while other means you think, its a guess in other words.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: Implosions on September 26, 2011, 02:54:27 am
Just found out that Nikola Tesla knew about this in 1932 (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/09/nikola-tesla-predicted-faster-than-light-particles-in-1932/), this is apparently old news.

No, he predicted it. There is a difference. One means you know for sure, while other means you think, its a guess in other words.

If we know for sure, why is it a theory?
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: clawstrider on September 26, 2011, 02:11:19 pm
Just found out that Nikola Tesla knew about this in 1932 (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/09/nikola-tesla-predicted-faster-than-light-particles-in-1932/), this is apparently old news.

No, he predicted it. There is a difference. One means you know for sure, while other means you think, its a guess in other words.

If we know for sure, why is it a theory?

No, it was Tesla's theory.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: wakkorotti on October 02, 2011, 09:35:28 am
I've already made a huge breakthrough concerning the speed of light:
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd3uwin5q170wpc.cloudfront.net%2Fphoto%2F42443_700b.jpg&hash=7df5fd5f5371b72828f80574316457b3)
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: omaroo2 on October 02, 2011, 12:15:43 pm
I've already made a huge breakthrough concerning the speed of light:
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lol. :D :P
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: raul7legend on October 02, 2011, 12:45:15 pm
I've already made a huge breakthrough concerning the speed of light:
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd3uwin5q170wpc.cloudfront.net%2Fphoto%2F42443_700b.jpg&hash=7df5fd5f5371b72828f80574316457b3)
Screw 9gag
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: clawstrider on October 02, 2011, 12:56:10 pm
What I want to see:

(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd3uwin5q170wpc.cloudfront.net%2Fphoto%2F42443_700b.jpg&hash=7df5fd5f5371b72828f80574316457b3)


VS


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Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on October 02, 2011, 05:15:16 pm
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fknowyourmeme.com%2Fi%2F000%2F074%2F256%2Foriginal%2F1285770302993.jpg%3F1285772817&hash=8d0034feb40145b0154421280ba68f03)
Nothing will happen, because the other magnet isn't moving away.
Title: Re: Scientists break the speed of light - Is Einstein's theory wrong?
Post by: clawstrider on October 02, 2011, 08:22:42 pm
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Nothing will happen, because the other magnet isn't moving away.

You just get your slave to push start it first, or start on a hill :P