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Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: morgosin on April 06, 2014, 03:08:19 pm

Title: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: morgosin on April 06, 2014, 03:08:19 pm
Alright so, Since we have all had such a great discussion of what needs to happen to help out the server. Lets make some suggestions.

Post a short summary of the idea you have, and post a link to the page where it is found. Remember some ideas will require a build to go with it, examples being: Paintball, Blockhunt, Hunger games, Spleef, and many others.

Remember this when you post, and be prepared to aid in any way you can.


Block Hunt- If you have played Garry's Mod, or Teamfortress 2, you have most likely come across a mod called Prop Hunt. The goal of the mini game is to be the last prop standing. A player will either be a hunter or a prop, almost like a more in-depth form of hide and seek it has a time limit, and can take place in many custom arena's.

http://www.curse.com/bukkit-plugins/minecraft/blockhunt (http://www.curse.com/bukkit-plugins/minecraft/blockhunt)
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: whatmyname on April 06, 2014, 03:28:47 pm
This might just be me but whenever I mine obsidian there is a lot of bad block lag. If we could fix lag issues, clean up some of the grief and make the worlds a nicer place then I'm sure many more people will come. Also fixing the vote so you actually vote will stop people abusing it to just get diamonds. Posting on Planet Minecraft could help as well. Also making some banners or something to go around other forums like the Minecraft forum could help us a bit. :) Just my suggestions feel free to change them around or whatever.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: clawstrider on April 06, 2014, 03:52:12 pm
This might just be me but whenever I mine obsidian there is a lot of bad block lag. If we could fix lag issues,

I very rarely, if ever, get lag/block lag on Opticraft. It's one of the few servers in which I've never seen it get too bad.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: Nothing_ on April 06, 2014, 07:05:24 pm
While I agree that we need something new and different if we are going to attract large amounts of new players, I don't think mini games are the way to go. The community on this server is the reason why most of the people still play here, and mini game servers have little to no community whatsoever. We need something that allows players to work together in a competitive and cooperative environment.

Maybe a new world dedicated solely to pvp where you can break/raid/grief other peoples bases would be a good way to go, or a creative world with plots or something to that effect where people can compete to see who can build the nicest things, with no restrictions like money or your ability to gather resources.

This is not to say that mini games are a bad idea, just that they would need some tweaking in order to make them more cooperative/community driven.

Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: SalsaInABowl on April 06, 2014, 07:07:45 pm
I'm thinking maybe add a factions world.
If factions are added put in a rule that states you may not steal or betray your own faction. Permaban. I was on another factions server during my break from Opticraft and the had that rule. After I quit I ended up just doing that and of course I was banned. I would really love factions here because the other factions server had hella cool plugins but everyone was an asshole and the server owner is/was a major dick. Now, factions on Opticraft, that's something that I know I'll enjoy.
(And those plugins included airships, guns and spells mods. All were servers side and even included a texture pack to make the hoes look like actual guns)

Hunger games could be cool too.

Maybe a spleef revival. My arena is still there so we are already set for one of those.

Another build competition on SMP?

Other than that I really am not too phased about the player count drop, I mean the community is still here and it's why I joined so...
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: zwaan111 on April 06, 2014, 07:41:04 pm
creative :D
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: Gogar72 on April 06, 2014, 08:06:11 pm
Creative or Factions/Raid World.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: TarynMai on April 06, 2014, 08:20:42 pm
Sorry but isnt this basically what the suggestions section of the forum is for?
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: khoiboy51 on April 06, 2014, 08:41:15 pm
I don't think factions would help the server maybe minigames but not factions. I think people come here for smp but mini games cant hurt can they. We could make an opticraft carnival wouldn't be to bad. If anyone knows stampylongnose they would have some ideas
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: Gogar72 on April 06, 2014, 09:55:34 pm
I don't think factions would help the server maybe minigames but not factions. I think people come here for smp but mini games cant hurt can they. We could make an opticraft carnival wouldn't be to bad. If anyone knows stampylongnose they would have some ideas
Ew, not minigames just ew. Like it's cool and all, but they are really really kiddish most of the time. If you want minigames, you can make a lot in just vanilla.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: SalsaInABowl on April 06, 2014, 11:46:25 pm
I don't think factions would help the server maybe minigames but not factions. I think people come here for smp but mini games cant hurt can they. We could make an opticraft carnival wouldn't be to bad. If anyone knows stampylongnose they would have some ideas
Ew, not minigames just ew. Like it's cool and all, but they are really really kiddish most of the time. If you want minigames, you can make a lot in just vanilla.


That's what my recent project is by the way so if it is a success we will have that covered
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: TheWholeLoaf on April 10, 2014, 06:46:05 am
none of this will be possible without a developer.

And, if opticraft adds something like hunger games or a factions aspect, then it's not even opticraft anymore. Just sayin...
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: khoiboy51 on April 10, 2014, 07:32:14 am
none of this will be possible without a developer.

And, if opticraft adds something like hunger games or a factions aspect, then it's not even opticraft anymore. Just sayin...
We cant really add fctions cause the  its not reallu an smp anymorr
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: hammysandwhich on April 10, 2014, 12:44:38 pm
This might just be me but whenever I mine obsidian there is a lot of bad block lag. If we could fix lag issues,

I very rarely, if ever, get lag/block lag on Opticraft. It's one of the few servers in which I've never seen it get too bad.

lmao it's the only server I get block lag on
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: DJAlphaWolf on April 10, 2014, 12:53:11 pm
Can y'all just let Opticraft die with some dignity?

I'd rather see it die as a vanilla SMP server with an awesome community than see it heavily modded just to suit the needs of a gaming community with the attention span of a squirrel.

We can't keep opticraft forever and we certainly can't make it like those other servers you guys play. I already know that pvp and factions worlds will probably never be approved. That's never what we were about.

We're a building community. We really are. We began with a simple, yet successful Classic Minecraft server, filled with glorious builds and designs. Our eager community members would log on each day, inspired to build something amazing. We grew into an SMP server eventually as well and while the focus was placed on survival, people managed to still impress us with magnificent feats of work on SMP.

Considering Classic is officially dead and Opticraft no longer recognizes it as a part of the Opticraft experience (hence the archiving of the classic forums), I think our best idea would be to have either a creative server or at the very least an event server. We need a place to express ourselves freely through building like the classic server used to do.

Considering there is little to no survival on opticraft anyways with all its plugins, people are just getting bored. We can keep trying to earn money but there really isn't much of an incentive to bother. The voting rewards of diamonds aren't really useful unless you're trying to amass a collection, are pvping (not many are) or are making a bunch of tools every day (which you shouldn't need to unless you're making backup tools or selling em for some small amount of profit).

Perhaps for our survival server it might be best to separate inventories/money to each world so people can actually work to acquire things instead of already having it by switching back to their massive vault rooms of stuff in their home world.

Hardcore survival could also work.

But remember to not change the server too much. We're a friendly server. We're a great community that comes together to make this server more interesting. And we definitely all love to build. Adding an unfriendly mechanic such as war, factions, and hunger games might take away from our positive personality.

We will morph into an environment of hostility which may be OK just for the sake of the game but that's not what the opticraft I've been with for the past 2.5 years is all about.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: daniblue182 on April 10, 2014, 01:01:18 pm
Can y'all just let Opticraft die with some dignity?

I'd rather see it die as a vanilla SMP server with an awesome community than see it heavily modded just to suit the needs of a gaming community with the attention span of a squirrel.

We can't keep opticraft forever and we certainly can't make it like those other servers you guys play. I already know that pvp and factions worlds will probably never be approved. That's never what we were about.

We're a building community. We really are. We began with a simple, yet successful Classic Minecraft server, filled with glorious builds and designs. Our eager community members would log on each day, inspired to build something amazing. We grew into an SMP server eventually as well and while the focus was placed on survival, people managed to still impress us with magnificent feats of work on SMP.

Considering Classic is officially dead and Opticraft no longer recognizes it as a part of the Opticraft experience (hence the archiving of the classic forums), I think our best idea would be to have either a creative server or at the very least an event server. We need a place to express ourselves freely through building like the classic server used to do.

Considering there is little to no survival on opticraft anyways with all its plugins, people are just getting bored. We can keep trying to earn money but there really isn't much of an incentive to bother. The voting rewards of diamonds aren't really useful unless you're trying to amass a collection, are pvping (not many are) or are making a bunch of tools every day (which you shouldn't need to unless you're making backup tools or selling em for some small amount of profit).

Perhaps for our survival server it might be best to separate inventories/money to each world so people can actually work to acquire things instead of already having it by switching back to their massive vault rooms of stuff in their home world.

Hardcore survival could also work.

But remember to not change the server too much. We're a friendly server. We're a great community that comes together to make this server more interesting. And we definitely all love to build. Adding an unfriendly mechanic such as war, factions, and hunger games might take away from our positive personality.

We will morph into an environment of hostility which may be OK just for the sake of the game but that's not what the opticraft I've been with for the past 2.5 years is all about.

I totally agree with you that we shouldn't add factions or hunger games etc but I really don't want the server to die out
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: khoiboy51 on April 10, 2014, 01:03:00 pm
None of us want opti to die out but we just should keep thongs smooth and slow and not jump to conclusions when the server isn't even that dead yet (i hope)
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: SalsaInABowl on April 10, 2014, 02:17:05 pm
Remember the hardcore island suggestion?

Do it.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: Caanite. on April 10, 2014, 08:59:18 pm
Here's my thoughts on ALL the suggestions posted in this post.
1. Block Hunt: Although I enjoy playing Block Hunt, as soon as someone finds a way to exploit the map, it starts getting boring as the hiders will almost always win. Also, community is terrible with the only chat there ever being "You can never fine me, give us a hint..." and so on.
2. Fixing Lag: That may help a tiny bit but it won't attract new players, just maybe keep old ones from quitting.
3. Cleaning the World: I think the world looks good as it is, just the old world's that are griefed to shit.
4. Fixing Vote: This would make the game fairer but may cause some old players to quit (No more free diamond D:)
5. PMC: This is probably the suggestion I agree with the most as it is easy to do, will get us new players and will give us another voting site.
6. Banners: There are alot of banners you can use as you can just download the images from the Banner Competition Thread.
7. Factions: I can see why Factions is fun and all but I personally don't like it. Only upside to Factions is that a tonne of people will join but it only has a slightly better community than Block Hunt. And by that I mean hardly anything at all.
8. Creative: The best gamemode suggestion IMO. Just look at DJ's post as I totally agree with his view on Creative and he covered everything I wanted to say here.
9. Hunger Games: Best Minigame there is but has the same problems as Factions.
10. Spleef: I loved Spleef but I've only ever played it on this server. We just need to get more people to like it to get this up and running.
11. Build Competition: May get much more of the old players back who still check the Forums but I wouldn't enter because I'm only slightly good at building.
12. Opticraft Carnival: I don't see how this will do anything to help the server other than making current players have a tiny bit more fun.
13. Separate Inventories: This is not exactly practical for the current worlds but for any upcoming worlds this is a great idea.
14. Hardcore: Yes, I probably won't play on it much but this is definitely my second favorite gamemode suggestion, especially considering that it'll bring in new players and is very fun to play on.
15. Colored Chat: Makes chat too confusing so and name colours to indicate rank so it's not needed and will make chat too confusing.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: khoiboy51 on April 10, 2014, 09:12:40 pm
10. Spleef- This might not attract new players but it mught keep the old. We could have multiple renas and a this require not much it wouldn't be hard to run.
13. One idea I made up twenty seconda ago. In chat I know that colourful chat was a no-no but maybe we could modify it so that certain ranks spoke in their colour etc. member, grey chat trusted, orange
14. I suppose if we came to the extremity o the hunger games we could just turn one of our pvp maps a bit larger then add chests
15. Maybe something like hardcore island as someone suggested
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: Duinis on April 10, 2014, 10:00:01 pm
Can y'all just let Opticraft die with some dignity?

I'd rather see it die as a vanilla SMP server with an awesome community than see it heavily modded just to suit the needs of a gaming community with the attention span of a squirrel.

We can't keep opticraft forever and we certainly can't make it like those other servers you guys play. I already know that pvp and factions worlds will probably never be approved. That's never what we were about.

We're a building community. We really are. We began with a simple, yet successful Classic Minecraft server, filled with glorious builds and designs. Our eager community members would log on each day, inspired to build something amazing. We grew into an SMP server eventually as well and while the focus was placed on survival, people managed to still impress us with magnificent feats of work on SMP.

Considering Classic is officially dead and Opticraft no longer recognizes it as a part of the Opticraft experience (hence the archiving of the classic forums), I think our best idea would be to have either a creative server or at the very least an event server. We need a place to express ourselves freely through building like the classic server used to do.

Considering there is little to no survival on opticraft anyways with all its plugins, people are just getting bored. We can keep trying to earn money but there really isn't much of an incentive to bother. The voting rewards of diamonds aren't really useful unless you're trying to amass a collection, are pvping (not many are) or are making a bunch of tools every day (which you shouldn't need to unless you're making backup tools or selling em for some small amount of profit).

Perhaps for our survival server it might be best to separate inventories/money to each world so people can actually work to acquire things instead of already having it by switching back to their massive vault rooms of stuff in their home world.

Hardcore survival could also work.

But remember to not change the server too much. We're a friendly server. We're a great community that comes together to make this server more interesting. And we definitely all love to build. Adding an unfriendly mechanic such as war, factions, and hunger games might take away from our positive personality.

We will morph into an environment of hostility which may be OK just for the sake of the game but that's not what the opticraft I've been with for the past 2.5 years is all about.

You win.

As usual.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: iGenerator on April 10, 2014, 10:52:42 pm
Um Creative would be sweet.. Not that plot crap no one likes plots just give us a generated world and bring back ranks like those of classic, crafters would get world edit instead of cuboid.  It's really successful other (http://www.keralis.net/creative) places.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: Caanite. on April 10, 2014, 11:15:47 pm
10. Spleef- This might not attract new players but it mught keep the old. We could have multiple renas and a this require not much it wouldn't be hard to run.
13. One idea I made up twenty seconda ago. In chat I know that colourful chat was a no-no but maybe we could modify it so that certain ranks spoke in their colour etc. member, grey chat trusted, orange
14. I suppose if we came to the extremity o the hunger games we could just turn one of our pvp maps a bit larger then add chests
15. Maybe something like hardcore island as someone suggested
Please don't continue my list, that list was for me to review the all of the suggestions not suggest new ones and also, there are tonnes of spleef arenas around if you bother to look. Just no one plays in them anymore.

Also
Um Creative would be sweet.. Not that plot crap no one likes plots just give us a generated world and bring back ranks like those of classic, crafters would get world edit instead of cuboid.  It's really successful other (http://www.keralis.net/creative) places.
+1 to this.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: daniblue182 on April 10, 2014, 11:36:59 pm
Creative would be great for the server since opti was great on classic
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: TheWholeLoaf on April 11, 2014, 04:30:12 am
A creative world would just be an updated classic server which was very popular.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: Gogar72 on April 11, 2014, 04:35:05 am
Um Creative would be sweet.. Not that plot crap no one likes plots just give us a generated world and bring back ranks like those of classic, crafters would get world edit instead of cuboid.  It's really successful other (http://www.keralis.net/creative) places.
Yeah you do that, just please maybe make it applicable to get into the creative world so we don't just get a block house?
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: OzzyKP on October 30, 2014, 06:34:54 pm
Ok, we now have creative.  Have we seen a spike in interest or growth in members? 

It doesn't look like it.  There wasn't a spike in members when PVP was added either.

I'm not sure we need to make big changes really, perhaps we just need to do a better job of marketing the server.  Some suggestions:

- Add new voting sites, or switch out the ones we do have. 
- Promote the server more on Minecraftforum.net and Planet Minecraft. 
- I know a good video or two were made, perhaps put them up on the main Opticraft.net site to better attract visitors
- I've heard some suggest that grief traps are driving away too many people, perhaps we can try ending those?

I really hope someone is giving some serious thought to the fact that this server is dying and is working on a plan to stop that.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: DeeKay on October 30, 2014, 06:42:05 pm
-snip-
Are you talking about SMP or Creative?
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: OzzyKP on October 30, 2014, 07:12:38 pm
SMP mostly, but creative isn't going like gang busters either and also needs help.
Title: Re: Lets have some Ideas.
Post by: TheWholeLoaf on October 30, 2014, 11:59:08 pm
- Add new voting sites, or switch out the ones we do have.  
- Promote the server more on Minecraftforum.net and Planet Minecraft.  
- I know a good video or two were made, perhaps put them up on the main Opticraft.net site to better attract visitors
- I've heard some suggest that grief traps are driving away too many people, perhaps we can try ending those?

I really hope someone is giving some serious thought to the fact that this server is dying and is working on a plan to stop that.

First and second are points that have been repeatedly made and are good ideas. I'm not all to sure what opti's plans are, but these have been suggested to him. It also comes down to who's voting and who's not.

For the video's, putting them up on our own site wont help, but putting them up on say the minecraft forums or PMC would be a good idea.

As for grief traps deterring people from joining our server, that's just completely absurd. If someone is banned for the grief trap and they don't feel like returning because of that fact, then that's on them. They chose to grief. I'd rather have 10 people than have 50 people, more than half of which are grieferes that will be banned later on.

Three good ideas tho.


Just like to add, even tho opticraft has very few people anymore, opti still has no intentions of shutting it down, as of what I last heard from him.