Opticraft Community
Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => General Discussion => Topic started by: High Roller on March 26, 2014, 05:01:29 am
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Hey guys,
Been gone from dis server for almost a year now. What happened to the server? Looks like it really went down the tubes, seems no one plays on it anymore.
-Roller
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Hey, welcome back.
This seems to be the same thing everyone who leaves seems to say when they decide to come back, and I've thought about the answer, well a few actually. One is the most obvious, people leave slowly over time due to sheer boredom, or lack of change. Others are simply not seeing the opticraft name as much as they used to, I credit most of this to the lack of classics ability to get new players. (At least the first 20,000 members most likely came from there).
I do find it ever so ironic though that the ones who contributed to the rut we are in now question the state we remain in as a community. This doesn't apply to any specific person but I have heard countless times "What happened to this place?" by people that left it in the dust. What needs to change is our ability to get new people, everyone doesn't want to play our version of vanilla minecraft anymore. They sure as hell don't want to get a dulled down version of a gametype we remadied a year after they asked for it either.
Most of all the suggestions made to improve the community need to be considered in a legitimate light to bring in new possibilities, because we all see the current way is not the best way.
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Agreed with Gene. I'm not going to point fingers, but I'd encourage a strategy to seek & resolve existing issues.
And things don't change themselves, if you want something different; work to make it happen.
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At least the community is still filled with amazing people
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Agreed, Something has to happen. And someone either isn't caring enough about it. Or is to stuborn to do anything. I know there are limitation, but just leaving the elephant in the room, isn't clearing up any floor space.
Start listening to suggestions. try them out. at this rate its going to die. Mojang is to busy with their 2 new games to care about mine craft as much. So we have to make it what we can.
Vanilla sucks okay. its dull boring. and way to easy. the most you can do is build something cool. But what happened to hours working towards a goal, a stat to say hey I have more (...) then you do! what happened to redstone innovations. what happened to creating new ways to do things. With the currant way the server is. its grinding iron/ gold selling it. and building things that no one will ever see/Building cities that will never be occupied. People can "Live" in as many cities as they want, but its not truly living there.
I know Optical doesn't like other people's plugins. but maybe, just maybe. He can put his pride aside and do what's best for the community.
Maybe take a took at mod packs, take a look at interesting mods. take a look at adventure maps, and creative server idea's. Opti was build on classic, the precursor to creative. Yet the server that sprouted from it. Is anything but easy to build what you want.
No one WANTS to grind for hours on end to maybe have enough wool to finish their project.
No one WANTS to grind for hours to have a shit ton of money that you can't do anything with.
NO ON WANTS!!! A plain smp server anymore, its god damn boring as hell and if you can't see it. Then there is a serious problem that needs addressing.
There I said it. I'm not afraid to either, this goes for Nick as well. all of the suggestions that I have seen recently have been instantly shot down. DO SOMETHING!!!!
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Yeaah. Get new things happening, cause right now the server is basically an interactive social media site
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Yeaah. Get new things happening, cause right now the server is basically an interactive social media site
Which I prefer more than generic social media site.
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Agreed, Something has to happen. And someone either isn't caring enough about it. Or is to stuborn to do anything. I know there are limitation, but just leaving the elephant in the room, isn't clearing up any floor space.
Start listening to suggestions. try them out. at this rate its going to die. Mojang is to busy with their 2 new games to care about mine craft as much. So we have to make it what we can.
Vanilla sucks okay. its dull boring. and way to easy. the most you can do is build something cool. But what happened to hours working towards a goal, a stat to say hey I have more (...) then you do! what happened to redstone innovations. what happened to creating new ways to do things. With the currant way the server is. its grinding iron/ gold selling it. and building things that no one will ever see/Building cities that will never be occupied. People can "Live" in as many cities as they want, but its not truly living there.
I know Optical doesn't like other people's plugins. but maybe, just maybe. He can put his pride aside and do what's best for the community.
Maybe take a took at mod packs, take a look at interesting mods. take a look at adventure maps, and creative server idea's. Opti was build on classic, the precursor to creative. Yet the server that sprouted from it. Is anything but easy to build what you want.
No one WANTS to grind for hours on end to maybe have enough wool to finish their project.
No one WANTS to grind for hours to have a shit ton of money that you can't do anything with.
NO ON WANTS!!! A plain smp server anymore, its god damn boring as hell and if you can't see it. Then there is a serious problem that needs addressing.
There I said it. I'm not afraid to either, this goes for Nick as well. all of the suggestions that I have seen recently have been instantly shot down. DO SOMETHING!!!!
Supported. Maybe not mods because referring to the original reason because its advantageous but also because not everyone knows how to do mods *nudge nudge wink wink* But plugins really would improved good 'ol opti. Smp is yes vanilla and boring. If you want plain survival play singleplayer. Opti is more fun when we are having fun not just building house after house mansion after mansion
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Yeaah. Get new things happening, cause right now the server is basically an interactive social media site
Which I prefer more than generic social media site.
But this is a game, not an intentional 'social' thing. Of course there is a community, but at the end of the day, we're all playing a game.
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Most of all the suggestions made to improve the community need to be considered in a legitimate light to bring in new possibilities, because we all see the current way is not the best way.
Every suggestion I see gets shot down, there is literally 0 suggestions being added nowadays. Either because of the lack of a dev or nick just says no. It's virtually impossible to get one suggestion added, we're at a stand still nobody wants to get us out of. Honestly, open dev apps, maybe someone in this community is somewhat decent at java and will code us a simple plugin. Hmmm maybe they don't seem like they're experienced enough, well give them a chance and let optical look over it, honestly... open your minds to change, people (mostly directed to the admins).
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Most of all the suggestions made to improve the community need to be considered in a legitimate light to bring in new possibilities, because we all see the current way is not the best way.
Every suggestion I see gets shot down, there is literally 0 suggestions being added nowadays. Either because of the lack of a dev or nick just says no. It's virtually impossible to get one suggestion added, we're at a stand still nobody wants to get us out of. Honestly, open dev apps, maybe someone in this community is somewhat decent at java and will code us a simple plugin. Hmmm maybe they don't seem like they're experienced enough, well give them a chance and let optical look over it, honestly... open your minds to change, people (mostly directed to the admins).
This.
I have found that a common reason for people leaving is people rage quitting because their mod app didn't get accepted.
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I see things a different, surely change is something that could potentially be something good. But what kind?
So far we've had a lot of changes on this server, largely ones that prevent exploitation (although late) such as the reduction of melon prices after their exploitation, the banning of redstone clocks that have damages server performance. Other changes that have come to this server could be largely awarded [mostly] to the community, with people organizing bright new independent ideas that rely on voluntary participation such as the seasonal events, or private competitions. However, the underlining issue is the fact that activity stagnates, becomes dull, and people lose interest. I'll leave the upcoming paragraphs with some points that I've made. Feel free to think of anything you'd like to add.
I encourage you to debate these points, and provide examples to support your statements. I'll add everything into this paragraph, so we could organize our thoughts, and put up a conclusion we could agree upon.
paragraph 1 - good
-Spoiler plugin
-Financial exploitation reduction
-Free protection granted to large creations
paragraph 2 - bad changes
-excessive mods that change the style of play
-changes that would lose the existing 'customer base'
-reckless choosing of mods, despite public favoritism
-consequences of not changing
paragraph 3 - potentially good changes
-Trade-driven economy
-Simulation of conquest/victory (Perhaps optional non-destructive war, that results in a monetary victory. Ex- losers pay winners x amount of money + loot from deaths)
-Roleplay
Conclusion.
Opticraft should...
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Okay, Im just going to lay out my thoughts. I, honestly, have phases. Some days I love Opti, others Im bored out of my mind. One of the reasons I left Opti before is because the boredom was more prominent. Right now I absolutely love opti and its community. But... What about others? As the normal process of time, we WILL gradually lose players. And at our surrent rate we are losing more than gaining. Obviously, we are doing something wrong. We need to explore our opportunities or even make something new and original that could attract more players.
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Yeaah. Get new things happening, cause right now the server is basically an interactive social media site
Which I prefer more than generic social media site.
But this is a game, not an intentional 'social' thing. Of course there is a community, but at the end of the day, we're all playing a game.
Cause it used to be a game, but there's been nothing new for so long people really only go on the server to chat with other people. At least that's the way I see it. Might not be. iunno
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Most of all the suggestions made to improve the community need to be considered in a legitimate light to bring in new possibilities, because we all see the current way is not the best way.
Every suggestion I see gets shot down, there is literally 0 suggestions being added nowadays. Either because of the lack of a dev or nick just says no. It's virtually impossible to get one suggestion added, we're at a stand still nobody wants to get us out of. Honestly, open dev apps, maybe someone in this community is somewhat decent at java and will code us a simple plugin. Hmmm maybe they don't seem like they're experienced enough, well give them a chance and let optical look over it, honestly... open your minds to change, people (mostly directed to the admins).
Yes you make a good point. There are some suggestions that get added, but it only seems to be "important" people that make them.
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I think we all can at least agree we need to do something, Wether it be a suggestion or not.
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Agreed, Something has to happen. And someone either isn't caring enough about it. Or is to stuborn to do anything. I know there are limitation, but just leaving the elephant in the room, isn't clearing up any floor space.
Start listening to suggestions. try them out. at this rate its going to die. Mojang is to busy with their 2 new games to care about mine craft as much. So we have to make it what we can.
Vanilla sucks okay. its dull boring. and way to easy. the most you can do is build something cool. But what happened to hours working towards a goal, a stat to say hey I have more (...) then you do! what happened to redstone innovations. what happened to creating new ways to do things. With the currant way the server is. its grinding iron/ gold selling it. and building things that no one will ever see/Building cities that will never be occupied. People can "Live" in as many cities as they want, but its not truly living there.
I know Optical doesn't like other people's plugins. but maybe, just maybe. He can put his pride aside and do what's best for the community.
Maybe take a took at mod packs, take a look at interesting mods. take a look at adventure maps, and creative server idea's. Opti was build on classic, the precursor to creative. Yet the server that sprouted from it. Is anything but easy to build what you want.
No one WANTS to grind for hours on end to maybe have enough wool to finish their project.
No one WANTS to grind for hours to have a shit ton of money that you can't do anything with.
NO ON WANTS!!! A plain smp server anymore, its god damn boring as hell and if you can't see it. Then there is a serious problem that needs addressing.
There I said it. I'm not afraid to either, this goes for Nick as well. all of the suggestions that I have seen recently have been instantly shot down. DO SOMETHING!!!!
Thanks for calling me out on this, now ill go and magically add plugins and stuff to the server using the console access that i don't have.
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We need something new to happen, not just the same old stuff. I'm getting bored stiff with things being the way they are. We need CHANGE!
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We need something new to happen, not just the same old stuff. I'm getting bored stiff with things being the way they are. We need CHANGE!
Agreed, Something has to happen. And someone either isn't caring enough about it. Or is to stuborn to do anything. I know there are limitation, but just leaving the elephant in the room, isn't clearing up any floor space.
Start listening to suggestions. try them out. at this rate its going to die. Mojang is to busy with their 2 new games to care about mine craft as much. So we have to make it what we can.
Vanilla sucks okay. its dull boring. and way to easy. the most you can do is build something cool. But what happened to hours working towards a goal, a stat to say hey I have more (...) then you do! what happened to redstone innovations. what happened to creating new ways to do things. With the currant way the server is. its grinding iron/ gold selling it. and building things that no one will ever see/Building cities that will never be occupied. People can "Live" in as many cities as they want, but its not truly living there.
I know Optical doesn't like other people's plugins. but maybe, just maybe. He can put his pride aside and do what's best for the community.
Maybe take a took at mod packs, take a look at interesting mods. take a look at adventure maps, and creative server idea's. Opti was build on classic, the precursor to creative. Yet the server that sprouted from it. Is anything but easy to build what you want.
No one WANTS to grind for hours on end to maybe have enough wool to finish their project.
No one WANTS to grind for hours to have a shit ton of money that you can't do anything with.
NO ON WANTS!!! A plain smp server anymore, its god damn boring as hell and if you can't see it. Then there is a serious problem that needs addressing.
There I said it. I'm not afraid to either, this goes for Nick as well. all of the suggestions that I have seen recently have been instantly shot down. DO SOMETHING!!!!
Thanks for calling me out on this, now ill go and magically add plugins and stuff to the server using the console access that i don't have.
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I'm so tired of posts about people leaving the server and how Opticraft is going downhill. I wish the people who post these would realize that their threads are pointless and actually have a negative effect and sour the mood on the forums. If you have some interest in enhancing the community, maybe you should actually do something instead of just complaining about it.
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We need something new to happen, not just the same old stuff. I'm getting bored stiff with things being the way they are. We need CHANGE!
Agreed, Something has to happen. And someone either isn't caring enough about it. Or is to stuborn to do anything. I know there are limitation, but just leaving the elephant in the room, isn't clearing up any floor space.
Start listening to suggestions. try them out. at this rate its going to die. Mojang is to busy with their 2 new games to care about mine craft as much. So we have to make it what we can.
Vanilla sucks okay. its dull boring. and way to easy. the most you can do is build something cool. But what happened to hours working towards a goal, a stat to say hey I have more (...) then you do! what happened to redstone innovations. what happened to creating new ways to do things. With the currant way the server is. its grinding iron/ gold selling it. and building things that no one will ever see/Building cities that will never be occupied. People can "Live" in as many cities as they want, but its not truly living there.
I know Optical doesn't like other people's plugins. but maybe, just maybe. He can put his pride aside and do what's best for the community.
Maybe take a took at mod packs, take a look at interesting mods. take a look at adventure maps, and creative server idea's. Opti was build on classic, the precursor to creative. Yet the server that sprouted from it. Is anything but easy to build what you want.
No one WANTS to grind for hours on end to maybe have enough wool to finish their project.
No one WANTS to grind for hours to have a shit ton of money that you can't do anything with.
NO ON WANTS!!! A plain smp server anymore, its god damn boring as hell and if you can't see it. Then there is a serious problem that needs addressing.
There I said it. I'm not afraid to either, this goes for Nick as well. all of the suggestions that I have seen recently have been instantly shot down. DO SOMETHING!!!!
Thanks for calling me out on this, now ill go and magically add plugins and stuff to the server using the console access that i don't have.
I know you don't have console access, but you do have influence on what does happen. Your one of 2 admins the people that run the server for Optical. You have more power then some trusted or member saying they want something. I know you spent hours on spawns and getting the server ready for players.
I'm simply saying something has to be done. if it takes some poking and prodding then so be it. But if nothing is done, then all of that hard work. isn't going to matter is it??? What happened to the Nick I knew, the one that pressured optical for an SMP server, the one that was adamant about the player base. The Nick that was there before SMP was even a thing. You've changed Nick... I miss the Nick that pushed to make Opticraft special, not just show up once in a while not say a word, then logg off.
I realize that school is taking up a massive chunk of your life. I understand that, it happens. Please don't take it as ridicule and hate, I don't mean that. and its hard to put it into words without it sounding harsh.
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We need something new to happen, not just the same old stuff. I'm getting bored stiff with things being the way they are. We need CHANGE!
Agreed, Something has to happen. And someone either isn't caring enough about it. Or is to stuborn to do anything. I know there are limitation, but just leaving the elephant in the room, isn't clearing up any floor space.
Start listening to suggestions. try them out. at this rate its going to die. Mojang is to busy with their 2 new games to care about mine craft as much. So we have to make it what we can.
Vanilla sucks okay. its dull boring. and way to easy. the most you can do is build something cool. But what happened to hours working towards a goal, a stat to say hey I have more (...) then you do! what happened to redstone innovations. what happened to creating new ways to do things. With the currant way the server is. its grinding iron/ gold selling it. and building things that no one will ever see/Building cities that will never be occupied. People can "Live" in as many cities as they want, but its not truly living there.
I know Optical doesn't like other people's plugins. but maybe, just maybe. He can put his pride aside and do what's best for the community.
Maybe take a took at mod packs, take a look at interesting mods. take a look at adventure maps, and creative server idea's. Opti was build on classic, the precursor to creative. Yet the server that sprouted from it. Is anything but easy to build what you want.
No one WANTS to grind for hours on end to maybe have enough wool to finish their project.
No one WANTS to grind for hours to have a shit ton of money that you can't do anything with.
NO ON WANTS!!! A plain smp server anymore, its god damn boring as hell and if you can't see it. Then there is a serious problem that needs addressing.
There I said it. I'm not afraid to either, this goes for Nick as well. all of the suggestions that I have seen recently have been instantly shot down. DO SOMETHING!!!!
Thanks for calling me out on this, now ill go and magically add plugins and stuff to the server using the console access that i don't have.
I know you don't have console access, but you do have influence on what does happen. Your one of 2 admins the people that run the server for Optical. You have more power then some trusted or member saying they want something. I know you spent hours on spawns and getting the server ready for players.
I'm simply saying something has to be done. if it takes some poking and prodding then so be it. But if nothing is done, then all of that hard work. isn't going to matter is it??? What happened to the Nick I knew, the one that pressured optical for an SMP server, the one that was adamant about the player base. The Nick that was there before SMP was even a thing. You've changed Nick... I miss the Nick that pushed to make Opticraft special, not just show up once in a while not say a word, then logg off.
I realize that school is taking up a massive chunk of your life. I understand that, it happens. Please don't take it as ridicule and hate, I don't mean that. and its hard to put it into words without it sounding harsh.
this is such an ignorant post it's ridiculous, optical is busy with real life and doesn't really have time for the server anymore, what do you want me to do about it? You have no idea what goes on between us admins and optical and you have no idea how things work. Saying I changed doesn't help anything all it does is just show how uninformed you are about what is going on. Maybe instead of making baseless claims like that you could give some idea on how to change. It's so easy to say hey we need change and then pin the fault of no change on others.
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We understand nick, the server should wait until there i just one lone wolf then should we ty and bring out the suggestions.Maybe this can be stored away as an action plan for when the server starts to flop
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We need something new to happen, not just the same old stuff. I'm getting bored stiff with things being the way they are. We need CHANGE!
Agreed, Something has to happen. And someone either isn't caring enough about it. Or is to stuborn to do anything. I know there are limitation, but just leaving the elephant in the room, isn't clearing up any floor space.
Start listening to suggestions. try them out. at this rate its going to die. Mojang is to busy with their 2 new games to care about mine craft as much. So we have to make it what we can.
Vanilla sucks okay. its dull boring. and way to easy. the most you can do is build something cool. But what happened to hours working towards a goal, a stat to say hey I have more (...) then you do! what happened to redstone innovations. what happened to creating new ways to do things. With the currant way the server is. its grinding iron/ gold selling it. and building things that no one will ever see/Building cities that will never be occupied. People can "Live" in as many cities as they want, but its not truly living there.
I know Optical doesn't like other people's plugins. but maybe, just maybe. He can put his pride aside and do what's best for the community.
Maybe take a took at mod packs, take a look at interesting mods. take a look at adventure maps, and creative server idea's. Opti was build on classic, the precursor to creative. Yet the server that sprouted from it. Is anything but easy to build what you want.
No one WANTS to grind for hours on end to maybe have enough wool to finish their project.
No one WANTS to grind for hours to have a shit ton of money that you can't do anything with.
NO ON WANTS!!! A plain smp server anymore, its god damn boring as hell and if you can't see it. Then there is a serious problem that needs addressing.
There I said it. I'm not afraid to either, this goes for Nick as well. all of the suggestions that I have seen recently have been instantly shot down. DO SOMETHING!!!!
Thanks for calling me out on this, now ill go and magically add plugins and stuff to the server using the console access that i don't have.
I know you don't have console access, but you do have influence on what does happen. Your one of 2 admins the people that run the server for Optical. You have more power then some trusted or member saying they want something. I know you spent hours on spawns and getting the server ready for players.
I'm simply saying something has to be done. if it takes some poking and prodding then so be it. But if nothing is done, then all of that hard work. isn't going to matter is it??? What happened to the Nick I knew, the one that pressured optical for an SMP server, the one that was adamant about the player base. The Nick that was there before SMP was even a thing. You've changed Nick... I miss the Nick that pushed to make Opticraft special, not just show up once in a while not say a word, then logg off.
I realize that school is taking up a massive chunk of your life. I understand that, it happens. Please don't take it as ridicule and hate, I don't mean that. and its hard to put it into words without it sounding harsh.
this is such an ignorant post it's ridiculous, optical is busy with real life and doesn't really have time for the server anymore, what do you want me to do about it? You have no idea what goes on between us admins and optical and you have no idea how things work. Saying I changed doesn't help anything all it does is just show how uninformed you are about what is going on. Maybe instead of making baseless claims like that you could give some idea on how to change. It's so easy to say hey we need change and then pin the fault of no change on others.
Do you agree we need to do something though Nick? Cause with where we are heading, in a few months, all players will pretty much get bored and leave all the staff. Is that what you want?
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We understand nick, the server should wait until there i just one lone wolf then should we ty and bring out the suggestions.Maybe this can be stored away as an action plan for when the server starts to flop
Not sure if serious suggestion or sarcastic asshole-ish comment...
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We need something new to happen, not just the same old stuff. I'm getting bored stiff with things being the way they are. We need CHANGE!
Agreed, Something has to happen. And someone either isn't caring enough about it. Or is to stuborn to do anything. I know there are limitation, but just leaving the elephant in the room, isn't clearing up any floor space.
Start listening to suggestions. try them out. at this rate its going to die. Mojang is to busy with their 2 new games to care about mine craft as much. So we have to make it what we can.
Vanilla sucks okay. its dull boring. and way to easy. the most you can do is build something cool. But what happened to hours working towards a goal, a stat to say hey I have more (...) then you do! what happened to redstone innovations. what happened to creating new ways to do things. With the currant way the server is. its grinding iron/ gold selling it. and building things that no one will ever see/Building cities that will never be occupied. People can "Live" in as many cities as they want, but its not truly living there.
I know Optical doesn't like other people's plugins. but maybe, just maybe. He can put his pride aside and do what's best for the community.
Maybe take a took at mod packs, take a look at interesting mods. take a look at adventure maps, and creative server idea's. Opti was build on classic, the precursor to creative. Yet the server that sprouted from it. Is anything but easy to build what you want.
No one WANTS to grind for hours on end to maybe have enough wool to finish their project.
No one WANTS to grind for hours to have a shit ton of money that you can't do anything with.
NO ON WANTS!!! A plain smp server anymore, its god damn boring as hell and if you can't see it. Then there is a serious problem that needs addressing.
There I said it. I'm not afraid to either, this goes for Nick as well. all of the suggestions that I have seen recently have been instantly shot down. DO SOMETHING!!!!
Thanks for calling me out on this, now ill go and magically add plugins and stuff to the server using the console access that i don't have.
I know you don't have console access, but you do have influence on what does happen. Your one of 2 admins the people that run the server for Optical. You have more power then some trusted or member saying they want something. I know you spent hours on spawns and getting the server ready for players.
I'm simply saying something has to be done. if it takes some poking and prodding then so be it. But if nothing is done, then all of that hard work. isn't going to matter is it??? What happened to the Nick I knew, the one that pressured optical for an SMP server, the one that was adamant about the player base. The Nick that was there before SMP was even a thing. You've changed Nick... I miss the Nick that pushed to make Opticraft special, not just show up once in a while not say a word, then logg off.
I realize that school is taking up a massive chunk of your life. I understand that, it happens. Please don't take it as ridicule and hate, I don't mean that. and its hard to put it into words without it sounding harsh.
this is such an ignorant post it's ridiculous, optical is busy with real life and doesn't really have time for the server anymore, what do you want me to do about it? You have no idea what goes on between us admins and optical and you have no idea how things work. Saying I changed doesn't help anything all it does is just show how uninformed you are about what is going on. Maybe instead of making baseless claims like that you could give some idea on how to change. It's so easy to say hey we need change and then pin the fault of no change on others.
Do you agree we need to do something though Nick? Cause with where we are heading, in a few months, all players will pretty much get bored and leave all the staff. Is that what you want?
Yes i agree, however I have can't change anything. It also doesn't help that I have much more important stuff to worry about outside of the video game world.
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Even once me and tobs get console access what do you expect to change? You'll basically have 2 people who have never ran a minecraft server before running the server. Maybe we can make it better, maybe we cant, it's not an easy thing to do.
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Shit happens, deal with it. Stuff changes. Sure it's gone downhill, but what are you gonna do about it? You really can't do anything, and we're just at a low time. We'll start to slowly progress more players as time goes on. You really can't blame anyone on this, or yell at the admins to do something as it's just something you simply cannot stop. Deal. With. It.
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Find a dev. They will help since when or if you guys got console access, it would make things easier and you wouldn't end up brain dead sitting here trying to figure everything out while there are things you should be doing Outside of the video gaming world.
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Find a dev. They will help since when or if you guys got console access, it would make things easier and you wouldn't end up brain dead sitting here trying to figure everything out while there are things you should be doing Outside of the video gaming world.
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This topic is getting ridiculous. If you guys have suggestions for the server, please feel free to post them in new topics, hopefully with a full list of plugins needed etc.
If you just want to berate Nick and Tobs for not changing shit fast enough, then there is really no point posting. The message has been made, and they've already stated that as they don't yet have console access, they can change nothing.
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This topic is getting ridiculous. If you guys have suggestions for the server, please feel free to post them in new topics, hopefully with a full list of plugins needed etc.
If you just want to berate Nick and Tobs for not changing shit fast enough, then there is really no point posting. The message has been made, and they've already stated that as they don't yet have console access, they can change nothing.
not to mention that neither me nor tobs became admin to be in charge of the server and adding content to it.
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This topic is getting ridiculous. If you guys have suggestions for the server, please feel free to post them in new topics, hopefully with a full list of plugins needed etc.
If you just want to berate Nick and Tobs for not changing shit fast enough, then there is really no point posting. The message has been made, and they've already stated that as they don't yet have console access, they can change nothing.
This topic has been ridiculous since it started.
Again, I'll refer to my three favorite words, DEAL WITH IT
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Figured I'd post here to clear a couple things up.
Firstly, and this should be obvious to all who've been around for awhile. I've lost interest in minecraft and have become quite busy with other things in life (honours, finishing college, fulltime job, looking for place to stay / house to buy, other hobbies). As a result, I can no longer spend time developing things for the server, so stuff has stalled hard.
Secondly, the lack of extra content is not because I "don't like" other peoples plugins. It simply the time issue. The fact we have less plugins and have a large plugin of our own has more to do with quality control / bugs, then it does to do with time or my perceived dislike of other peoples work. I welcome additional plugins not written by myself being added.
Third - I have, as of today, unrelated to this topic, given Tobs & Nick console access, which in time would at the very least empower them to make changes to improve things, however as Nick said, this is not necessarily why they became admins, so don't expect it of them. However, at the very least, they have the opportunity to do so.
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Figured I'd post here to clear a couple things up.
Firstly, and this should be obvious to all who've been around for awhile. I've lost interest in minecraft and have become quite busy with other things in life (honours, finishing college, fulltime job, looking for place to stay / house to buy, other hobbies). As a result, I can no longer spend time developing things for the server, so stuff has stalled hard.
Secondly, the lack of extra content is not because I "don't like" other peoples plugins. It simply the time issue. The fact we have less plugins and have a large plugin of our own has more to do with quality control / bugs, then it does to do with time or my perceived dislike of other peoples work. I welcome additional plugins not written by myself being added.
Third - I have, as of today, unrelated to this topic, given Tobs & Nick console access, which in time would at the very least empower them to make changes to improve things, however as Nick said, this is not necessarily why they became admins, so don't expect it of them. However, at the very least, they have the opportunity to do so.
gg
And the first paragraph hit me right in the feels.
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While this thread is still unlocked, I thought I'd add a few things.
I used to be on the same bandwagon with the whole "Opticraft is dying, give us new stuff" thing, but I'm long over that.
It could be my lack of activity for the server anymore, and in fact, that's what's enabled me to see things from a whole different angle. I look at Opticraft now and see a tight community of people who still care for the server, so much so that they're starting to worry too much about players they don't have, and not about the people that are still around them.
Opticraft isn't the only server being affected, believe it or not. It could be partly because of little new content being added, but a much larger percent of the issue revolves around Survival servers themselves. Plugins are growing, new servers are arising, and people no longer feel that Survival servers are "hip and cool", and rather turn their attention to mini game servers and PvP.
Optical, it's good to hear that you've given Nick and Tobs that console access. I agree this doesn't necessarily give them some magical key to change the server and bring in 1000's of players, but it will help any future things planned.
All in all, be thankful that we still have this community. If not growing, staying together at least.
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We can also try increasing voting rewards. Maybe throw in like 50$-100$ each vote.
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I have a great idea, why don't we create a new opticraft mini game server similar to woodysgamertags woodycraft but have some of the same games and we can create new game types. However the only people that should be allowed to submit game type ideas are the moderators and operators. Also we can create a jack pot system like gambling where you bet money for a certain reward still keeping opticrafts roots in place. It would spice things up! Opticalza make it happen please!
:) ;D ::)
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only people that should be allowed to submit game type ideas are the moderators and operators.
That's called Communism
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only people that should be allowed to submit game type ideas are the moderators and operators.
That's called Communism
Nope, Fascism.
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only people that should be allowed to submit game type ideas are the moderators and operators.
That's called Communism
Nope, Fascism.
Pretty much the same thing
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only people that should be allowed to submit game type ideas are the moderators and operators.
That's called Communism
Nope, Fascism.
Pretty much the same thing
Communism and facism are not i repeat not the same thing. Ones about the illegally division of rations and poverty and the other is about autocracy and dictatorship
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only people that should be allowed to submit game type ideas are the moderators and operators.
That's called Communism
Nope, Fascism.
Pretty much the same thing
Communism and facism are not i repeat not the same thing. Ones about the illegally division of rations and poverty and the other is about autocracy and dictatorship
The only thing you're right about is that they're not the same thing.
There is nothing illegal about Communism and it has definitely nothing to do with poverty.
Fascism is an ultra rightwing political ideology and a form of totalitarianism.
Communism is an ultra leftwing ideology that is based on a classless society. Communism comes from the Latin word communis, which means "shared" or "belong to all".
Clearly Autocracy, dictatorship and Fascism don't mix well with Communism.
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Since this topic is beginning to sound irrelevant and out of context, I'll just lock this right here.
Divert future suggestions into the appropriate board.