I'd say at the moment its quite steady, but its more about quality than quantity, most people on the server are amazing to get on with ^_^
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The economy is steady in my opinion. It's hard to get money, just as it should be.
Note: Rant is from a millionaire :P
Don't get me wrong tiggy. I love the idea of you getting rich while you afk at your farm. You can blabber on all day about how long it took you to build but it really boils down to you getting money without having to do any consistent work.The economy is steady in my opinion. It's hard to get money, just as it should be.
it's actually extremely easy to make money, the problem is the second the general public finds out how to easily make money that method gets nerfed pumpkins...melons.... eggs..... cactus.... monster spawners.... iron..... (im sure gold wont be to far away).... and there's a bunch more. most of them get nerfed with the excuse "it was causing lag" which is only half true since, most, of the money making methods only caused lag wen people would afk for countless hours letting entities stack like crazy, which makes afk farming the main culprit, and admins don't like you making money for doing nothing (at the farm that took you countless hours to build)
the problem with the economy is that we claim to be a "survival server", and survival servers don't have an economy or a market......
which by definition having those two things makes us an econ/freebuild server but ya kno... we're a survival server..... with nerfed mob spawn rates..... and missing key survival aspects... like some kinda threat to actually survive... besides random 1x1 xray tunnels to bedrock while ur running mindlessly through a dark forest with no mobs...
but i digress, since we're a survival server they (staff in control of such matters) refuse to allow us to make any usefull amount of money, since then we could buy w/e we want and that would b the straw that breaks the cammels back and gets rid of that "survival" aspect that is soooo apparent on the server ::)
so in summary, it's easy as hell to make money... untill people catch on, then it's suddenly against the rules to make money and all the work you put into being able to do so goes to waste. and then it's hard to make money...... until a new method of money making comes about (happens like every semi-major/major patch) and the process repeats itself.
meanwhile of course the people that've caught onto this become filthy rich and sit on millions while the slowpokes remain poor.... but the poor people expect high prices on goods, because they do /baltop and see millions, so clearly the server's rich and my diamonds are worth $500/ea..... and then they struggle to make any money and think it's super difficult, but really they're just caught in the "poor loop"
suppose the thing that erks me the most about this process is that all the people caught in the "poor loop" catch onto the money making methods late, spend hours on end building one of the many money making farms that've come and gone, and end up with less money than when they started because they finally get their farm done are lets say 10k in the hole, and that item gets removed from the market for being too profitable.....
we either need to have a market and accept the fact that people will always try to be rich and buy everything they want and stop pretending to be a survival server, or we abandon the market/econ and continue pretending to be a survival server with no real threats besides falling to your death.
#EndRant
Note: Rant is from a millionaire :P
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I say it is hard to profit, mainly because of others becoming super rich. I say we should stick to the fact that things can be profitable or abandon the economy system and use trading items instead...
well if you want money selling endstone gets you money fast it got me about 1k in 3 days of mostly mining up endstone :L
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By the way, we didn't nerf iron ingots due to lag as you seemed to have claimed
most of them get nerfed with the excuse "it was causing lag" which is only half true
Why couldn't you do that to melons and pumpkins?? Now most people have tons of useless melons and pumpkins that will be there until the server get completely restarted from scratch or they will just stay thereMelon farms actually caused server lag. Iron farms do not have nearly the negative impact that melon farms had on the server.
Did I have to be as much of a jerk as i was in my first post? probably not, but you constantly complain and say the same thing over and over while you try to find new ways to circumvent our afk kicker and get more money. And it is very difficult for us to close loopholes that we dont know exist. I know I personally dont have to time to research 100% every update and think of all the possible ways to exploit the economy using that update. I usually find out about the loopholes when someone on the server abuses it.
And we never made iron farms useless, we made them less profitable. If you decided to not use it anymore after that is not my problem at all.
If you consider typing 1 character every few minutes playing than sure.Did I have to be as much of a jerk as i was in my first post? probably not, but you constantly complain and say the same thing over and over while you try to find new ways to circumvent our afk kicker and get more money. And it is very difficult for us to close loopholes that we dont know exist. I know I personally dont have to time to research 100% every update and think of all the possible ways to exploit the economy using that update. I usually find out about the loopholes when someone on the server abuses it.
And we never made iron farms useless, we made them less profitable. If you decided to not use it anymore after that is not my problem at all.
i circumvent the afk kicker by not being afk, i kno wat a crazy thought actually being at the computer while you're using a farm.....
If you consider typing 1 character every few minutes playing than sure.Did I have to be as much of a jerk as i was in my first post? probably not, but you constantly complain and say the same thing over and over while you try to find new ways to circumvent our afk kicker and get more money. And it is very difficult for us to close loopholes that we dont know exist. I know I personally dont have to time to research 100% every update and think of all the possible ways to exploit the economy using that update. I usually find out about the loopholes when someone on the server abuses it.
And we never made iron farms useless, we made them less profitable. If you decided to not use it anymore after that is not my problem at all.
i circumvent the afk kicker by not being afk, i kno wat a crazy thought actually being at the computer while you're using a farm.....
If you consider typing 1 character every few minutes playing than sure.Did I have to be as much of a jerk as i was in my first post? probably not, but you constantly complain and say the same thing over and over while you try to find new ways to circumvent our afk kicker and get more money. And it is very difficult for us to close loopholes that we dont know exist. I know I personally dont have to time to research 100% every update and think of all the possible ways to exploit the economy using that update. I usually find out about the loopholes when someone on the server abuses it.
And we never made iron farms useless, we made them less profitable. If you decided to not use it anymore after that is not my problem at all.
i circumvent the afk kicker by not being afk, i kno wat a crazy thought actually being at the computer while you're using a farm.....
Chief the problem is that we can't satisfy everyone, we have tired and someone always complains. Also we don't nerf the mobs at all, where are you getting this from?
Didn't nick make a thread a while back for people to rage about pumpkin farms? Because that's really all that you're doing. This was supposed to be a thread about the economy, not nerfed items.
I got mad (which I already admitted was wrong) because you turned your opinion on the economy into an attack on us for nerfing items.Didn't nick make a thread a while back for people to rage about pumpkin farms? Because that's really all that you're doing. This was supposed to be a thread about the economy, not nerfed items.
actually i just said my opinion on the economy and nick started being a jerk toward me about it so i was pointing out where he got things wrong.
also i'm still waiting for his opinion on the economy and how well he thinks it's doing
I got mad (which I already admitted was wrong) because you turned your opinion on the economy into an attack on us for nerfing items.Didn't nick make a thread a while back for people to rage about pumpkin farms? Because that's really all that you're doing. This was supposed to be a thread about the economy, not nerfed items.
actually i just said my opinion on the economy and nick started being a jerk toward me about it so i was pointing out where he got things wrong.
also i'm still waiting for his opinion on the economy and how well he thinks it's doing
You really want my opinion on the economy? I feel it is fine. The idea for the market was not intended to start an economy. It was supposed to be a last resort to buying blocks. We had no idea that people would spend so much time trying to find loopholes to get insanely rich. To market was meant to be expensive as to discourage people from relying on it while being beneficial to those who play all the time. Obviously due to these loopholes that all went down the drain. But i don't necessarily think that it makes the current economy bad. At the beginning we should have made the sell prices for blocks MUCH lower than we did. The only problem with that is then players would have no real way to get the protection stones that are so vital to most players. As for right now, a lot of players are set on how the economy works and i think changing it would prove disastrous for the server.