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Title: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: Wyboth on December 28, 2012, 06:39:39 pm
This article is aimed at new players to the SMP server. If you have played for at least a month, you probably already know what is said in this article.

Nearly every day, I see a new player saying "Selling diamonds at my /home for $500 each! Come quickly!" only to be flustered when nobody comes to buy them. If this is you, then there is something very important you should know. Everyone is able to earn 5 free diamonds each day. You can do this by voting. At some point, you've probably gotten a pop-up message while browsing the forums asking you to vote. If you click this message, you will be taken to the voting page. Enter your username, click vote, fill out the caption, then repeat for the next website. For every website you do this for, you will receive a free diamond ingame. Thus, you can get 5 free diamonds daily (every 12 hours on XtremeTop100; every 24 hours for the other 3 websites). Consequently, the price of diamonds has fallen tremendously.

But the market says diamonds are $750 each!

That's true, the market does say that. But the market prices are based on an item's natural value (in this case, how much diamonds would be worth if the only way to obtain them was by mining). The market does not account for earning diamonds by voting, otherwise the price would be about $50. You may notice that there is no sell sign for diamonds at the market. This is intentional: if you could make $2500 daily with no overhead, the server's economy would be skewed.

So how much are diamonds worth, then?

About $50. Even then, most people won't buy them unless they can't wait until they can vote again to have diamonds. That being said, using diamonds in trades is fruitless, as the person you are trading with most likely has stacks of them in a chest, which brings me to another point: always negotiate trades before giving anything. Several people have come to my shop wanting to buy something and threw their items in the "Give" channel without saying anything. After a minute of me doing nothing, they angrily demand the item. I usually sell items for money and not other items, so I tell them that they have not paid. They respond "Isn't what I gave you enough??" (Usually one of the given items is a diamond). I reply that I asked for a cash payment, and that I considered the items given to be a donation, since they did not ask if they could be used as payment, to which the answer would have been no. At this point, they usually storm out of the shop without even asking for their items back.

TL;DR

Everyone can receive 5 diamonds daily by voting. The average sell price of diamonds is $50. Always negotiate a trade before giving items.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: LIEKABOWSE on December 28, 2012, 07:55:24 pm
$50? PFFT
More like $5.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: RuthlessTomato on December 28, 2012, 08:08:41 pm
I remember when they would sell for $200 apiece.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: SalsaInABowl on December 28, 2012, 08:59:05 pm
I remember when they would sell for $200 apiece.

They were never like that, more like 100$
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: RuthlessTomato on December 28, 2012, 09:28:59 pm
I remember when they would sell for $200 apiece.

They were never like that, more like 100$
Well, up to. A normal deal was like $150, and a pretty good deal was $100.(sorry for offtopic).
Now, guys, it isn't worth selling
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: Wyboth on December 28, 2012, 09:45:53 pm
$50? PFFT
More like $5.
Really? I had people fighting to buy them at $30, before I was told $50 was a better price.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: iGenerator on December 28, 2012, 10:25:36 pm
I wish this would have existed 11 months ago when I started playing SMP
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: Wyboth on December 28, 2012, 10:28:26 pm
I wish this would have existed 11 months ago when I started playing SMP
I wish I would have been on SMP 11 months ago to post this... it would have helped my sanity too.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: Spyow on December 28, 2012, 11:35:16 pm
Diamonds are worth like, nothing... Lol, I sold a stack of diamonds for like $500
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: Pensfan121 on December 29, 2012, 07:09:18 pm
Diamonds are worth like, nothing... Lol, I sold a stack of diamonds for like $500
Me too. Diamonds are worth $100 each.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: SoulKnightGT on December 29, 2012, 10:26:51 pm
I remember when they would sell for $200 apiece.

They were never like that, more like 100$
Then I guess you were not here at the very beginning.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: Wyboth on December 30, 2012, 05:19:29 am
Diamonds are worth like, nothing... Lol, I sold a stack of diamonds for like $500
Me too. Diamonds are worth $100 each.
That's still very pricey. I think $50 is a pretty good price.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: RuthlessTomato on December 30, 2012, 09:45:18 am
Diamonds are worth like, nothing... Lol, I sold a stack of diamonds for like $500
Me too. Diamonds are worth $100 each.
In midsummmer they were about this much. Maybe alittle more. Like wyboth said theyre even cheaper now.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: tiggy26668 on December 30, 2012, 04:44:59 pm
I love how you all claim diamonds are useless/worthless... Such a noob mentality  :P

3 diamonds = ~$150

3 diamonds + 2 sticks + enchant = ~$2000-$10000

stop trying to sell diamonds by themselves, invest some time in getting a triple spawner or better, have unlimited xp, and profit  ;)
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: Pensfan121 on December 30, 2012, 07:19:28 pm
Blaze spawner  ;)
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: ivy2112 on December 30, 2012, 09:23:13 pm
Blaze spawner  ;)
Double blaze spawner ;)
Just go mining for money for maby 3-6 hours and you got at least 10k
I usually got around 40k from a week by mining
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: rytovius on December 30, 2012, 09:30:08 pm
I remember when they would sell for $200 apiece.

They were never like that, more like 100$

Yes they were I don't think you were playing but when I started they were 500 a piece.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: RuthlessTomato on December 31, 2012, 03:50:19 am
Blaze spawner  ;)
Double blaze spawner ;)
Just go mining for money for maby 3-6 hours and you got at least 10k
I usually got around 40k from a week by mining
Best way is from 2x blaze spawners. Get i fire res potion and make a room 3 blocks tall with the spawners in there too and kill. Tons of xp and sell the blaze rods too ;)
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: High Roller on January 08, 2013, 05:29:30 am
I love how you all claim diamonds are useless/worthless... Such a noob mentality  :P

3 diamonds = ~$150

3 diamonds + 2 sticks + enchant = ~$2000-$10000

stop trying to sell diamonds by themselves, invest some time in getting a triple spawner or better, have unlimited xp, and profit  ;)

I see your estimate of an enchanted pick and I raise you an ianhalmond auction:
http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,10154.30.html
The most overpriced item I have ever seen go for, Enjoy :D
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: Nhataley on January 08, 2013, 08:54:26 pm
I remember when they would sell for $200 apiece.

They were never like that, more like 100$

Yes they were I don't think you were playing but when I started they were 500 a piece.

Well This is sorta confsuing. I also remember when Diamond were 500 a peice aswell

Yet Snape has been on opticraft longer then me :/

Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: RuthlessTomato on January 08, 2013, 09:04:13 pm
I remember when they would sell for $200 apiece.

They were never like that, more like 100$

Yes they were I don't think yu were playing but when I started they were 500 a piece.
meh. Maybe he didnt trade with players?

Well This is sorta confsuing. I also remember when Diamond were 500 a peice aswell

Yet Snape has been on opticraft longer then me :/


Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: NotABronie on January 08, 2013, 09:11:29 pm
I love how you all claim diamonds are useless/worthless... Such a noob mentality  :P

3 diamonds = ~$150

3 diamonds + 2 sticks + enchant = ~$2000-$10000

stop trying to sell diamonds by themselves, invest some time in getting a triple spawner or better, have unlimited xp, and profit  ;)

Haha I have to bend over backwards to sell enchanted pickles
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: SalsaInABowl on January 08, 2013, 11:39:05 pm
I remember when they would sell for $200 apiece.

They were never like that, more like 100$

Yes they were I don't think yu were playing but when I started they were 500 a piece.
meh. Maybe he didnt trade with players?

Well This is sorta confsuing. I also remember when Diamond were 500 a peice aswell

Yet Snape has been on opticraft longer then me :/



I was never good at money so I used to always find a really cheap shop.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: RuthlessTomato on January 09, 2013, 01:42:21 am
Makes sense.
And put me back in your signature mwhehehehe!!!
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: hennydeez on January 09, 2013, 06:02:50 am
I remember when they would sell for $200 apiece.

They were never like that, more like 100$

Yes they were I don't think yu were playing but when I started they were 500 a piece.
meh. Maybe he didnt trade with players?

Well This is sorta confsuing. I also remember when Diamond were 500 a peice aswell

Yet Snape has been on opticraft longer then me :/



Quoting fail ?
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: RuthlessTomato on January 09, 2013, 06:41:20 am
Its hard to type on my mobile! D;
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: Wyboth on January 09, 2013, 04:17:37 pm
Let's stay ontopic.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: jh2018 on February 09, 2013, 08:46:02 pm
Emeralds? They rare?
Nah. Get em from villagers.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: Wyboth on February 10, 2013, 07:08:46 pm
Emeralds? They rare?
Nah. Get em from villagers.
What's the point of posting if you answered your own question?
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: Zeradeth_ on February 21, 2013, 07:07:18 am
I remember when they would sell for $200 apiece.

They were never like that, more like 100$

Yes they were I don't think you were playing but when I started they were 500 a piece.

I actually remember when this was true, Rytovius. When I started playing, diamonds were where I got most of my income from; theeen the prices plunged. And when villagers came out? Pfft. Bye bye diamonds. Sad, really. But oh well :3

Thanks for posting this ;) Hopefully it'll help out some of the new players.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: Wyboth on February 21, 2013, 11:57:15 am
I remember when they would sell for $200 apiece.

They were never like that, more like 100$

Yes they were I don't think you were playing but when I started they were 500 a piece.

I actually remember when this was true, Rytovius. When I started playing, diamonds were where I got most of my income from; theeen the prices plunged. And when villagers came out? Pfft. Bye bye diamonds. Sad, really. But oh well :3

Thanks for posting this ;) Hopefully it'll help out some of the new players.
You're welcome. I just hope enough new players see this article.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: 2468avc on March 07, 2013, 12:02:35 am
I know, diamond prices have really gone down. I just bought some for $10.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: CazualxGrenade on March 07, 2013, 05:57:22 am
Solution:
Confiscate ALL the diamonds!

Step 2.
Throw ALL the diamonds in the lava!

Step 3.
Watch ALL the players cry I agony as they lost their diamonds!

Hehe, but don't get me wrong, but there are alot of diamonds out there.
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: JLSLover123 on June 30, 2013, 08:17:16 pm
Blaze spawner  ;)

Pensfan so you did use the quote coolcrab said to use anyway Diamonds aren't woth selling unless ur enchanting for someone then you get double more the money for just 1
Title: Re: Read Before Trading Diamonds
Post by: iGenerator on July 01, 2013, 02:03:44 am
Blaze spawner  ;)

Pensfan so you did use the quote coolcrab said to use anyway Diamonds aren't woth selling unless ur enchanting for someone then you get double more the money for just 1
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