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Discussion forum => Support => Legacy => Archives => Ban Appeals => Topic started by: Miller360 on May 11, 2012, 09:57:17 pm
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So the other day, I was playing on the server and I went to the market. At the market there were TRUSTED people who were standing around a bunch of random people standing near fires lit by the TRUSTED people. I don't know who they were, but I know the person who banned me was Jewnier. I was watching the people by the fire and someone pushed one of the people in. They died and dropped nothing and a bunch of people laughed. Then, he respawned and came back to the market, and he stood next to the fire again as if it was set up. So, I sat there as the same things continued and I push someone in the fire myself. People laughed, and the next thing I know, I saw "hi tim" (my username is Tim_Miller666) and I have been banned for 14 days now. Seriously, it seems like I was BAITED into being banned just for lolz. I mean come on...
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We have a rule about killing players. Pushing players into fire KILLS them.
You were indeed banned by Jewnier for "pushing arcticwolf into fire."
I would like to have a word with these [Trusted] players you saw. If you can remember any names at all, I'd be happy to give them a warning for their actions and for pressuring you into pushing a player into fire, because that is not an acceptable action.
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sigh.. I said it muiltiple times not to kill players
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I've banned you for pushing articwolf. to even get close to pushing articwolf you would have needed to travel to the back of the market and jump across some stairs just to push her.
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Yes but the fact that you all were standing around watching the players and it was CLEARLY set up is what makes me mad. I understand I killed the guy, but I don't get why people were standing around waiting for that to happen. It was clearly set up.
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So you knew it was a set up, you saw that jewnier was asking people NOT to push each other into it, Yet you still did it.
What you should have done was follow the rules to the letter, and follow a moderator's instructions. If it wasn't a set up, you would've still pushed people into a fire, regardless of it being a set up or not.
I honestly don't see any justification to your anger.
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I'm not angry about being banned about that anymore, I'm just saying... Why are people setting up stuff like this? Like yeah, I shouldn't have pushed him in, I know. But I don't see why stuff like that is set up.
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Actually, I have to say that this trap is illegal and against the rules. I mean all your actions.
In classic server, if a player or an OP say to a griefer to hit the grief-trap(you know where and what it is in in the map), for somethign that is fake, like a bonus, then the player deserves a ban.
When you trigger players act in a bad course, then you ahve to be considered.
I am against, breaking the rules, but in a way, you broke the rules, too.
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So you agree the trap is wrong?
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We are not fools we had also a group of watching standing players.Chosen and oldgimpwolf we are not fools i saw you pushing here in don't lie..And player killing is player killing.Any thing to say in a offense?
and the fire was't started by us
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If this wasn't a trap, you would've STILL pushed Victino into the fire, regardless.
We've had instances where people have been lighting fires in the market place, and instances of people pushing afkers into the fires, killing their levels, and items. when they are supposed to be in a 'safe zone'
Now Jewnier was standing there, waiting for some guy to push Victino into the fire. Not only that, He constantly said "Do NOT PUSH HIM INTO THE FIRE" and what you did, was pushed him anyways. Now how do you suggest Jewnier stops you from burning poor ol' Victino? And why should he let you go free, he has already warned you not to do it.
Other than that, You don't even plead a good case on why it's wrong. all you're doing is complaining that it's wrong, while not providing a single example on how, or why it is 'wrong'.
I suggest a locking of the thread Jewnier.
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*cough* I was pulled into this trap as well, Ignoring the Chat screen, because Sometimes, not all the time but SOMETIMES, the chat is nothing but spam, and like last night, Nothing but a bunch of trusteds playing like they were school teachers, calling me a faggot, and retarded just cause my skin is bob the builder. The server does state do not excessively curse, but they were using the F-Bomb a lot, I thought to myself, How come they are trusteds, and I get my feelings hurt on a server I commit to, then I remembered, Oh yeah, its not allowed.. they're just sliding cause an OP isn't around to stop it. Now I wasn't literally hurt, but that is bullying & Minecraft is rated E 10+... so some of the trusteds need to watch theirself.
EDIT: Oh and by the way, It was on Global chat, they were asked to move it to Local, but they stayed Global.
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*cough* I was pulled into this trap as well, Ignoring the Chat screen, because Sometimes, not all the time but SOMETIMES, the chat is nothing but spam, and like last night, Nothing but a bunch of trusteds playing like they were school teachers, calling me a faggot, and retarded just cause my skin is bob the builder. The server does state do not excessively curse, but they were using the F-Bomb a lot, I thought to myself, How come they are trusteds, and I get my feelings hurt on a server I commit to, then I remembered, Oh yeah, its not allowed.. they're just sliding cause an OP isn't around to stop it. Now I wasn't literally hurt, but that is bullying & Minecraft is rated E 10+... so some of the trusteds need to watch theirself.
EDIT: Oh and by the way, It was on Global chat, they were asked to move it to Local, but they stayed Global.
Thats is the baddest excuse i ever heard and its not even your appeal.we are guarding the fire.And yes we are trusted because we are helping other from being bulled by players like you.So its all yours behavior how we unpack our selfs
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wasn't an excuse thanks tho :) It was a statement, I never said it wasn't my fault, but I don't go around bullying peeps, as bad as them. Stop getting so mad victino, You're a trusted, and I wasn't talking about you, you weren't one of them doing what was stated in my statement.
EDIT: the time I pushed you in fire, was the first and only time I bullied anyone.
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Okay dude I'm done with this, I pushed the guy in the fire, happy? I did because it was funny. I can honestly say tho, I don't think people should get baited into doing that. I'm sorry I missed it in the chat, that's my fault. I killed the guy, I realize what I did wrong, but I still don't get why baiting people into doing it is right. That's my point cut and dry.
Oh Xeadin that other poll was an accident sorry hahaa I couldn't figure out how to do this... I saw you locked it, I wasn't trying to post a ton of stuff about it
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To everyone- Sorry I posted that in someone else's ban appeal, but his ban was the same reason as mine, & I just knew what happened last night as well was wrong. Nobody encourages that. I would happily tell the names of the trusteds last night if you'd want. Tim_Miller you saw me push Victino in the fire, We hung out that day, but you didn't remember it was me, Of course it seems funny, but the server doesn't encourage violence towards other players & I believe we've both learned from our mistakes, with that said I'm already unbanned thanks to Jewnier & Xplozziv, Maybe they will reason with you as well.
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So your unbanned and I'm not? :( ehhhh since I've been so annoying I probably deserve it LOL. I never meant any harm and I thought it was kinda funny Lemonboi5 since I've talked to you before. I completely agree with you
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sigh.. I said it muiltiple times not to kill players
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I've banned you for pushing articwolf. to even get close to pushing articwolf you would have needed to travel to the back of the market and jump across some stairs just to push her.
So why do you think it's ok for trusteds to do this? is this why they're trusted so they can bait people into getting banned by being able to place fires? If i were you i would've demoted them and then banned them for 14 days! Now i know this probably wasn't you're idea but you shouldn't have let this happen i mean you are a moderator.
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We have a rule about killing players. Pushing players into fire KILLS them.
You were indeed banned by Jewnier for "pushing arcticwolf into fire."
I would like to have a word with these [Trusted] players you saw. If you can remember any names at all, I'd be happy to give them a warning for their actions and for pressuring you into pushing a player into fire, because that is not an acceptable action.
Alright well you seem like a pretty understanding guy so. . . Why would you give them a warning? Demote them and make them earn back your trust! Do you really trust them? You know they wouldn't have done something like this if you were or any other ops were on. That doesn't sound very trusting to me.
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So you knew it was a set up, you saw that jewnier was asking people NOT to push each other into it, Yet you still did it.
What you should have done was follow the rules to the letter, and follow a moderator's instructions. If it wasn't a set up, you would've still pushed people into a fire, regardless of it being a set up or not.
I honestly don't see any justification to your anger.
So the way you're defending jewnier it seems like you guys are legit friends. That being said try to think about this like you didn't know him. SUre what tim_miller666 did was wrong but really it never would've happened if these trusteds didn't set this up for no other reason then TRYING TO GET PEOPLE BANNED! How can that possibly be legal on the server? You can still fix this
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Actually, I have to say that this trap is illegal and against the rules. I mean all your actions.
In classic server, if a player or an OP say to a griefer to hit the grief-trap(you know where and what it is in in the map), for somethign that is fake, like a bonus, then the player deserves a ban.
When you trigger players act in a bad course, then you ahve to be considered.
I am against, breaking the rules, but in a way, you broke the rules, too.
HEY MAN I"M GREEK TOO NO WAY! Also i didn't understand your post could you clarify please?
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We are not fools we had also a group of watching standing players.Chosen and oldgimpwolf we are not fools i saw you pushing here in don't lie..And player killing is player killing.Any thing to say in a offense?
and the fire was't started by us
Why were you just standing next to a fire? What'd you expect? For someone NOT to push you in?
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*cough* I was pulled into this trap as well, Ignoring the Chat screen, because Sometimes, not all the time but SOMETIMES, the chat is nothing but spam, and like last night, Nothing but a bunch of trusteds playing like they were school teachers, calling me a faggot, and retarded just cause my skin is bob the builder. The server does state do not excessively curse, but they were using the F-Bomb a lot, I thought to myself, How come they are trusteds, and I get my feelings hurt on a server I commit to, then I remembered, Oh yeah, its not allowed.. they're just sliding cause an OP isn't around to stop it. Now I wasn't literally hurt, but that is bullying & Minecraft is rated E 10+... so some of the trusteds need to watch theirself.
EDIT: Oh and by the way, It was on Global chat, they were asked to move it to Local, but they stayed Global.
Thats is the baddest excuse i ever heard and its not even your appeal.we are guarding the fire.And yes we are trusted because we are helping other from being bulled by players like you.So its all yours behavior how we unpack our selfs
Ok what was your reasoning for starting the fire?
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Pande, please don't post on ban appeals. No one else should be posting here anymore. And no, He didn't light the fire.
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Pande, please don't post on ban appeals. No one else should be posting here anymore. And no, He didn't light the fire.
He's my personal friend like in REAL LIFE! Isn't that amazing? anyway his ban was unjust and you know it!
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No, I it's jot unjust, and I've already written on it. Regardless if you were a friend or not. Don't post in ban appeals, unless you're directly involved.
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HEY MAN I"M GREEK TOO NO WAY! Also i didn't understand your post could you clarify please?
With my post, I meant that triggering people to violate the rules is in a way illegal according to games' rules.
So, its a fault from both sides.
Are you Greek who knows english? Or a Greek who knows both languages?
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Thank you for understanding Spamarian, I'm glad someone actually agrees.
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Pande, please don't post on ban appeals. No one else should be posting here anymore. And no, He didn't light the fire.
He's my personal friend like in REAL LIFE! Isn't that amazing? anyway his ban was unjust and you know it!
Are you the one that's banned? No.
Stop soliciting in other players active appeals unless you are DIRECTLY involved in the ban. Knowing him in real life DOES NOT QUALIFY
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Okay I think I've figured out what happened and I'm very sorry if you guys were trying to explain this to me earlier, I was too angry to listen. Correct me if I am wrong but what I came across was a Grief-Trap, right? If so, I understand why you guys would do that and I now see why I was banned very clearly. I thought that some people were just screwing around trying to get people banned and jumped to conclusions, that is my fault.
Therefore, I am very sorry for getting so angry, I see very clearly why you guys would do this, and I can't wait to come back and play on this awesome server again. I only posted this last post to bring some closure and tell you guys I'm sorry for getting upset with you.
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Locking this topic. You will be un-banned in 1 day.