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Title: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: bigbeno37 on April 23, 2012, 09:17:42 am
Hey there!

If I donated, how much would that contribute to me getting the 'Trusted' rank if anything? And also, if I donated just say $20, would that contribute more to my getting the 'Trusted' rank than me spending half of that of $10?
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: DeeKay on April 23, 2012, 09:44:02 am
Not entirely, no. I'm not an Operator but I'm pretty sure they look for your attitude more than anything.
Of course by donating it may show that you want to help out, but your best chance is to look here: http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,6935.0.html
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: bigbeno37 on April 23, 2012, 10:01:01 am
Not entirely, no. I'm not an Operator but I'm pretty sure they look for your attitude more than anything.
Of course by donating it may show that you want to help out.

Yep, I totally expected that. In your opinion though, how long does it take an average person who wants to get promoted to Trusted get to Trusted?
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: DeeKay on April 23, 2012, 10:05:50 am
Not entirely, no. I'm not an Operator but I'm pretty sure they look for your attitude more than anything.
Of course by donating it may show that you want to help out.

Yep, I totally expected that. In your opinion though, how long does it take an average person who wants to get promoted to Trusted get to Trusted?
It all depends. There's not really an estimated time to get trusted. As long as you follow those tips in that link then you'll have no problem.

If I had to give an average time to earn trusted, maybe 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: bigbeno37 on April 23, 2012, 10:21:09 am
Ah, okay. So, what is OptiCraft's IRC channel, and what program do I use to access it? Sorry, I don't use IRC that much... :-\
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: optical on April 23, 2012, 12:23:32 pm
Your best bet is to hang on mumble and be helpful.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on April 23, 2012, 01:52:01 pm
Like optical said, be helpful. Mumble isnt necessary to earn trusted, it helps a lot though! I really dont think donations have anything to do with it. and it took me about 3 weeks to get trusted, because the day i came on the server I was a retard and got banned. But I think I've redeemed myself  :)
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: minerman12321 on April 23, 2012, 05:56:17 pm
Be helpful be on mumble be own forums and follows rules. Then you will get trusted
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: Newbrict on April 23, 2012, 07:02:06 pm
but you should donate anyways
;)
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: bigbeno37 on April 24, 2012, 06:35:07 am
Well the only thing stopping me from using Mumble is that it won't work for me. I have mumble on the iPad, however I have rare access to it. I will be donating.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: DeweyMeister on April 24, 2012, 06:42:01 am
Be helpful be on mumble be own forums and follows rules. Then you will get trusted
Minerman its more than this its not a certain thing if you are helpful you have to be not trying to get the rank merely being nice and following rules and then you MIGHT have  chance of becoming trusted but it is never a certain thing just to keep in mind :)

Well the only thing stopping me from using Mumble is that it won't work for me. I have mumble on the iPad, however I have rare access to it. I will be donating.
and bigbeno donating helps getting the trusted rank yes but it dosnt secure you a trusted place as you could donate and then not respect other players, you have to not be proud about everything you do but play the game and be helpful, thats my tip :)

Dewey :)
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: joshskiizz on April 24, 2012, 07:48:12 am
I don't think it does. Anyone should donate regardless because of how amazing this server is. I think, if not soon to be corrected by all of you, that the donations are just help & benefit. You help them and benefit from it, as it would seem to me on the donations page where you donate and get something back. Trusted is based on how trusted you are, am I not correct? Whether or not you are trustworthy, respectful, and involved in the community? I do not think that financial contribution to the server should count towards trusted because it would just be like buying your rank in. Well, that is how it seems to me and it's just my opinion. Not like it's important, lol.   :P
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: bigbeno37 on April 24, 2012, 07:59:58 am
I don't think it does. Anyone should donate regardless because of how amazing this server is. I think, if not soon to be corrected by all of you, that the donations are just help & benefit. You help them and benefit from it, as it would seem to me on the donations page where you donate and get something back. Trusted is based on how trusted you are, am I not correct? Whether or not you are trustworthy, respectful, and involved in the community? I do not think that financial contribution to the server should count towards trusted because it would just be like buying your rank in. Well, that is how it seems to me and it's just my opinion. Not like it's important, lol.   :P

I don't mean buying Trusted.
Hey there!

If I donated, how much would that contribute to me getting the 'Trusted' rank if anything? And also, if I donated just say $20, would that contribute more to my getting the 'Trusted' rank than me spending half of that of $10?

I mean how much will it contribute to me getting the Trusted rank. No way in hell would
I expect simply to donate and instantaneously get Trusted.

"One does not simply donate and get Trusted on OptiCraft"
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: DJAlphaWolf on April 24, 2012, 08:31:45 am
Well, to tell you the truth, donations have nothing to do with rank whatsoever. Joshskiizz was right when he said donations are just "help and benefit". No amount of donation "moves you up" towards the trusted rank. The admins, operators and mods have to trust that you can handle the responsibility of becoming trusted. From personal experience, I can tell you that I've been asked these questions many times. The best way to become trusted, is to be mature, responsible, and if you can,  be helpful to your fellow Opticraft community. The time it takes to get trusted, on average, is indeed around 2 weeks, like xDeekay said. However, players can get trusted anywhere from a day to 3 months of playing on the server. It all depends on how ready you are to take the responsibilities as a trusted, because after all, you are given the power of water(a very useful tool for builds and melon farms). However, the power of water can be destructive as well as helpful, so we make sure we pick the most trustworthy players to become trusted.

Mumble is extremely helpful to becoming trusted. To be honest, it definitely speeds up the choice for trusted. The fact that you get to actually talk to the admins, mods, and players instead of just writing to them in game, helps them understand how well you behave, how helpful you are and how responsible you are. I got trusted in less than 2 days from mumble, although I don't know exactly what I did (other than get recommended by a "then-player"). If mumble does not work for you, then you can still display your trustworthiness through the game.

But just curious, what do you need trusted for? Do you need to place down your own water for projects or do you wish to help out your fellow Opticraft community by placing water for others? Or do you just want the shiny orange name? :P. In my opinion, a power of that importance should not be wasted for just your own personal benefit. If you need water, trusteds and mods are always available to place some for you. If you just want the shiny colors, you can always donate for a title ;D. However, if you truly wish to help out with water, then perhaps the mods, operators and admins will now be watching you, deciding when you are ready to become trusted.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: bigbeno37 on April 24, 2012, 09:19:19 am
Well, to tell you the truth, donations have nothing to do with rank whatsoever. Joshskiizz was right when he said donations are just "help and benefit". No amount of donation "moves you up" towards the trusted rank. The admins, operators and mods have to trust that you can handle the responsibility of becoming trusted. From personal experience, I can tell you that I've been asked these questions many times. The best way to become trusted, is to be mature, responsible, and if you can,  be helpful to your fellow Opticraft community. The time it takes to get trusted, on average, is indeed around 2 weeks, like xDeekay said. However, players can get trusted anywhere from a day to 3 months of playing on the server. It all depends on how ready you are to take the responsibilities as a trusted, because after all, you are given the power of water(a very useful tool for builds and melon farms). However, the power of water can be destructive as well as helpful, so we make sure we pick the most trustworthy players to become trusted.

Mumble is extremely helpful to becoming trusted. To be honest, it definitely speeds up the choice for trusted. The fact that you get to actually talk to the admins, mods, and players instead of just writing to them in game, helps them understand how well you behave, how helpful you are and how responsible you are. I got trusted in less than 2 days from mumble, although I don't know exactly what I did (other than get recommended by a "then-player"). If mumble does not work for you, then you can still display your trustworthiness through the game.

But just curious, what do you need trusted for? Do you need to place down your own water for projects or do you wish to help out your fellow Opticraft community by placing water for others? Or do you just want the shiny orange name? :P. In my opinion, a power of that importance should not be wasted for just your own personal benefit. If you need water, trusteds and mods are always available to place some for you. If you just want the shiny colors, you can always donate for a title ;D. However, if you truly wish to help out with water, then perhaps the mods, operators and admins will now be watching you, deciding when you are ready to become trusted.

 :o
That was my expression when I first saw your post. I read through it, and to tell you the truth, I really do wanna get that shiny title. I am going to donate this weekend, but even if I do get the customizable title, I won't be able to put my rank as 'Trusted'. Whenever I am talking or even near a Trusted member, I am in awe of them. I want to be able to be that person to be awe'd upon. I want to able to help out the community with water, and I want to be able to stand out from the members. That, my friend, is why I want to be Trusted.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: Redchecks on April 24, 2012, 11:19:52 am
If you want my opinion. Basically...Don't be an ass :)

Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: bigbeno37 on April 24, 2012, 11:25:27 am
Now why the heck would I be an ass? People who are asses usually are trolls, and believe me now when I say that I am NOT a troll. I hate trolls. They get on your nerves, andyou just want to END THEIR LIFE.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: Boshiwarrior on April 24, 2012, 02:18:28 pm
I read through it, and to tell you the truth, I really do wanna get that shiny title. I am going to donate this weekend, but even if I do get the customizable title, I won't be able to put my rank as 'Trusted'. Whenever I am talking or even near a Trusted member, I am in awe of them. I want to be able to be that person to be awe'd upon. I want to able to help out the community with water, and I want to be able to stand out from the members. That, my friend, is why I want to be Trusted.
I have seen many people saying this. The most people want it because you see you name easier in the chat, it is shiny, people will like you faster and you will get faster respect. If you want to help people, you can do that as a memeber too. I think one of the admins sayd this too. A trusted rank is something special, not just a thing that everyone can have.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: bigbeno37 on April 24, 2012, 02:28:30 pm
I read through it, and to tell you the truth, I really do wanna get that shiny title. I am going to donate this weekend, but even if I do get the customizable title, I won't be able to put my rank as 'Trusted'. Whenever I am talking or even near a Trusted member, I am in awe of them. I want to be able to be that person to be awe'd upon. I want to able to help out the community with water, and I want to be able to stand out from the members. That, my friend, is why I want to be Trusted.
I have seen many people saying this. The most people want it because you see you name easier in the chat, it is shiny, people will like you faster and you will get faster respect. If you want to help people, you can do that as a memeber too. I think one of the admins sayd this too. A trusted rank is something special, not just a thing that everyone can have.

Yes, I fully understand that. My question simply was how much will a donation go towards my getting the Trusted rank. I knew that it wouldn't guarantee me a position of Trusted. It takes a lot to be trusted. And, as I have previously mentioned, I FULLY UNDERSTAND AND ACCEPT THAT.

Oh, also, just a question once more :P those people who say what I just said, are they usually griefers / trolls / idiots? Do they accomplish their goals? Ever?

Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: Boshiwarrior on April 24, 2012, 02:39:29 pm
Oh, also, just a question once more :P those people who say what I just said, are they usually griefers / trolls / idiots? Do they accomplish their goals? Ever?
I can't say that for sure. I am just a month on Opticraft. Griefers and trolls will never get trusted. Idiots? I haven't founded a idiot trusted or mod. People can change, so trusted persons can change to Griefers. Search on the forum and maybe you can found one. :P
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: joshskiizz on April 24, 2012, 04:00:19 pm
I don't think it does. Anyone should donate regardless because of how amazing this server is. I think, if not soon to be corrected by all of you, that the donations are just help & benefit. You help them and benefit from it, as it would seem to me on the donations page where you donate and get something back. Trusted is based on how trusted you are, am I not correct? Whether or not you are trustworthy, respectful, and involved in the community? I do not think that financial contribution to the server should count towards trusted because it would just be like buying your rank in. Well, that is how it seems to me and it's just my opinion. Not like it's important, lol.   :P

I don't mean buying Trusted.
Hey there!

If I donated, how much would that contribute to me getting the 'Trusted' rank if anything? And also, if I donated just say $20, would that contribute more to my getting the 'Trusted' rank than me spending half of that of $10?

I mean how much will it contribute to me getting the Trusted rank. No way in hell would
I expect simply to donate and instantaneously get Trusted.

"One does not simply donate and get Trusted on OptiCraft"

Let me point out what I said:

I do not think that financial contribution to the server should count towards trusted because it would just be like buying your rank in. Well, that is how it seems to me and it's just my opinion.

I didn't say it is buying Trusted. Nor would I expect you to think that. I simply elaborated on saying "No, I do not think that it does contribute."
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: ryans1230 on April 24, 2012, 05:09:08 pm
There was a glitch with the donations back around 1.2.3. That has since been fixed.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: bigbeno37 on April 24, 2012, 11:03:51 pm
I don't think it does. Anyone should donate regardless because of how amazing this server is. I think, if not soon to be corrected by all of you, that the donations are just help & benefit. You help them and benefit from it, as it would seem to me on the donations page where you donate and get something back. Trusted is based on how trusted you are, am I not correct? Whether or not you are trustworthy, respectful, and involved in the community? I do not think that financial contribution to the server should count towards trusted because it would just be like buying your rank in. Well, that is how it seems to me and it's just my opinion. Not like it's important, lol.   :P

I don't mean buying Trusted.
Hey there!

If I donated, how much would that contribute to me getting the 'Trusted' rank if anything? And also, if I donated just say $20, would that contribute more to my getting the 'Trusted' rank than me spending half of that of $10?

I mean how much will it contribute to me getting the Trusted rank. No way in hell would
I expect simply to donate and instantaneously get Trusted.

"One does not simply donate and get Trusted on OptiCraft"

Let me point out what I said:

I do not think that financial contribution to the server should count towards trusted because it would just be like buying your rank in. Well, that is how it seems to me and it's just my opinion.

I didn't say it is buying Trusted. Nor would I expect you to think that. I simply elaborated on saying "No, I do not think that it does contribute."

Look. The way you put that could practically confuse anyone, and okay, I do get your point. It's just that, in my opinion and view, people are to be Trusted more if they donate then if they don't. Of course, the person may only get trusted a small percentage more, and it is up to that person to complete the task. Even if a person donated something as large as $100, they *SHOULDN'T* get Trusted. As you said before, that is buying the rank, and that's not good. A proper Trusted member should be able to help out on the server, reply to people needing help in the forums, and have talked over mumble to different people.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: DJAlphaWolf on April 25, 2012, 03:58:16 am
In a way, trusteds are like the 'mini-mods' of the server. They help out anyone who needs help when a mod isnt available (except in the case of grief). After Trusted, the next rank is mod. The trusteds are potentially the server's future mods. Now that doesnt mean that all trusteds will apply for mod, however, their rank is basically one step away.

Just a thought for you to ponder.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: bigbeno37 on April 25, 2012, 06:59:20 am
So are you saying that with Trusted comes some responsibility?
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: clawstrider on April 25, 2012, 07:17:38 am
So are you saying that with Trusted comes some responsibility?

Yes.

They are trusted with water, which could be a HUGE pain to remove/fix if they griefed (Imagine a farm, you could wipe it out with 1 bucket, nevermind a house.)

And they also are looked up to in the community by members etc. They are the example setters.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: bigbeno37 on April 25, 2012, 07:29:53 am
:o
That was my expression when I first saw your post. I read through it, and to tell you the truth, I really do wanna get that shiny title. I am going to donate this weekend, but even if I do get the customizable title, I won't be able to put my rank as 'Trusted'. Whenever I am talking or even near a Trusted member, I am in awe of them. I want to be able to be that person to be awe'd upon. I want to able to help out the community with water, and I want to be able to stand out from the members. That, my friend, is why I want to be Trusted.

So are you saying that with Trusted comes some responsibility?

Yes.

They are trusted with water, which could be a HUGE pain to remove/fix if they griefed (Imagine a farm, you could wipe it out with 1 bucket, nevermind a house.)

And they also are looked up to in the community by members etc. They are the example setters.

Yes, I already know this. This is why I want to become a Trusted member.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: ViperZeroOne on April 25, 2012, 07:12:38 pm
In addition, and as mentioned, I'd almost call them a mini-mod.  You have a water bucket so, in my eyes, it's your duty to help out with the "I need water placed" requests in order to help reduce the load on the mods and allow them to deal with actual mod issues.  At least, that's how I look at MY trusted label.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: joshskiizz on April 26, 2012, 01:29:14 am
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Look. The way you put that could practically confuse anyone, and okay, I do get your point. It's just that, in my opinion and view, people are to be Trusted more if they donate then if they don't. Of course, the person may only get trusted a small percentage more, and it is up to that person to complete the task. Even if a person donated something as large as $100, they *SHOULDN'T* get Trusted. As you said before, that is buying the rank, and that's not good. A proper Trusted member should be able to help out on the server, reply to people needing help in the forums, and have talked over mumble to different people.

Not really, you just put a point of view into it. I agree with the rest of your statements, we're on the same page! :D So that is why Trusted is such a big deal. Not everyone has the qualities it takes to be one.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: bigbeno37 on April 26, 2012, 03:15:24 am
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Look. The way you put that could practically confuse anyone, and okay, I do get your point. It's just that, in my opinion and view, people are to be Trusted more if they donate then if they don't. Of course, the person may only get trusted a small percentage more, and it is up to that person to complete the task. Even if a person donated something as large as $100, they *SHOULDN'T* get Trusted. As you said before, that is buying the rank, and that's not good. A proper Trusted member should be able to help out on the server, reply to people needing help in the forums, and have talked over mumble to different people.

Not really, you just put a point of view into it. I agree with the rest of your statements, we're on the same page! :D So that is why Trusted is such a big deal. Not everyone has the qualities it takes to be one.

Yes, I know. Only the people who are really going to strive to achieve this goal will accomplish it. Even on that topic, in my opinion, if you are NOT trying to become Trusted, but you help out new players, you are more than likely to get Trusted.
Title: Re: Donations in regard to the Trusted rank
Post by: illiwill on May 03, 2012, 05:21:01 am
Dude, the way to become trusted is to be nice, friendly, help build, etc. There is an entire post on the forums. The biggest thing is to WAIT FOR IT. I was on the server for 3months, then Nick3306 ranked me up. Just read the post on the forums.