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Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: laggyman on April 21, 2012, 07:06:23 am
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if melons now sell for 480 can you at least make it so that gold sells for more than 75 or make it so we can make descent money on something else. Melons should cost 960 it is not fair for those of us that did not get a chance to earn a revenue of 960. Those players who have already been in the server for a while have had the chance to earn thousands now its gonna be harder for the new comer farmers. Change the price back to 980 please it wont change anything if you do. I believe that the people who save up money to get the resources to make a giant farm deserve the money, i so far have worked for a week on my auto farm and have spent 100k on it alone for only the first 2 stories of the farm. Not fair man.
Actually just came up with an idea just increase price of items and boom. Or make it so every week we get 10% of our bal removed for those with money above 100k and below only 5%
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Change the price back to 980 please it wont change anything if you do.
$960*
Actually just came up with an idea just increase price of items and boom. Or make it so every week we get 10% of our bal removed for those with money above 100k and below only 5%
And by the way I don't think Admin's will be able to keep up to date with this. :)
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Keep in mind that when the server first launched, the sell price for melons were much lower.
I'd be happy with $480.
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They should cost $960 because of how long it takes to get 64 melon blocks
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They should cost $960 because of how long it takes to get 64 melon blocks
They are already, 480+480= 960$ There is a sign to sell it for 480$ and 960$
480$ for 32 Melon Blocks, 960$ for 64 Melon blocks
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They should cost $960 because of how long it takes to get 64 melon blocks
They are already, 480+480= 960$ There is a sign to sell it for 480$ and 960$
480$ for 32 Melon Blocks, 960$ for 64 Melon blocks
They changed the price though for 32 its like $200 or something and for 64 its $480
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They should cost $960 because of how long it takes to get 64 melon blocks
They are already, 480+480= 960$ There is a sign to sell it for 480$ and 960$
480$ for 32 Melon Blocks, 960$ for 64 Melon blocks
It has been changed,
64 melons is now 480 and 32 is now 240.
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They should cost $960 because of how long it takes to get 64 melon blocks
They are already, 480+480= 960$ There is a sign to sell it for 480$ and 960$
480$ for 32 Melon Blocks, 960$ for 64 Melon blocks
It has been changed,
64 melons is now 480 and 32 is now 240.
lol we did it at the same time
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High melon prices + People making massive melon farms = Players have too much money and it's basically building in creative for those people (Destroys the concept of survival)
3 Solutions.
1.Tax those with melon farms. too hard to implement
2.Raise the prices of everything in the market to adapt to the amount of wealth. No, Because there's a simpler solution, and less hassle to deal with people not being able to afford anything without a melon farm.
3.Lower the price of melon farms It's better than solution 2, takes less work, and creates less problems.
/thread
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but what do you mean tabooti
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but what do you mean tabooti
He means there are 3 solutions to fix the amount of money people are making from auto melon farms.
Option 3 is the most reasonable one.
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Well doesn't /home, /warp and similiar plugins also destroy the concept of "survival"?
I personally don't agree that they are on "creative-mode", just because they have infinite money.
They spend a lot of time and effort in building those farms, where they could have been farming dungeon, killing mobs or collecting ore.
But instead chose to invest their money, which they initially made through some farming, to put farms together with some ingenuity. (Which is also is a very monotone job, building row after row of melons and pistons. just melons and pistons.)
Nevertheless i agree with slowing it down a bit.
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Meh. Slowing it down a bit does help, currently I am investing in a EXP farm, great money maker.
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If you ask me lowering sell back prices won't really change much because people will still make profit albeit slightly slower....
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People with large scale melon farms will make a million a day from melons. Lowering the prices of melons wont affect much. That's still half a million a day for some people.
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The biggest problem i have with this is that melon profits were cut in half, but pumpkins were cut by 67% :(
why hate on the pumpkin farmers??? why didn't they just get the same 50% cut that melons got?
(please bring pumpkins to 240, they will still make less than melons with that price!)
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I must agree with tabooti and i personally dont mind price gone down..i will just work little longer to get 2x64 melons and then sell them.And best solution would be if there is option to disable or forbid use of automatic melon farms and make players harvest one by one using their hands....that is how my farm function and i love it that way....automatic would take fun from game but that option isnt posible cos u would need to disable use of pistons and that isnt an option or give moderators rights to act like farm inspection to destroy all automatic farms which is even worse idea cos they already have way to much things to do running arround helping newcomers or those who dont know how to find solutions on their own through use of google or similiar.
So this is probably best way for now even it wont change much for those with auto farms and their 1000+ stem's but we who love playing it as survival will not complain but considering it as we got to lvl2 where is litlle harder to survive :)
Working hard can make u create anything u dream off ;)
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Gahhh...
I am so unlucky :(
I just built my farm to earn money and now I am not earning a thing...
I am glad I sold that full chest before the price going down..
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The biggest problem i have with this is that melon profits were cut in half, but pumpkins were cut by 67% :(
why hate on the pumpkin farmers??? why didn't they just get the same 50% cut that melons got?
(please bring pumpkins to 240, they will still make less than melons with that price!)
you do realize that they were $320 for 32 before? now $160. thats 50%.
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The biggest problem i have with this is that melon profits were cut in half, but pumpkins were cut by 67% :(
why hate on the pumpkin farmers??? why didn't they just get the same 50% cut that melons got?
(please bring pumpkins to 240, they will still make less than melons with that price!)
you do realize that they were $320 for 32 before? now $160. thats 50%.
weren't they 480 before?
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The biggest problem i have with this is that melon profits were cut in half, but pumpkins were cut by 67% :(
why hate on the pumpkin farmers??? why didn't they just get the same 50% cut that melons got?
(please bring pumpkins to 240, they will still make less than melons with that price!)
you do realize that they were $320 for 32 before? now $160. thats 50%.
weren't they 480 before?
I think that they were $480 before
Also I spent all my money on my farm and now I'm broke XD
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Ehh you cant please everyone.
But the pumpkin prices were left untouched, so im not sure where you got the 67% cut from.
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Ehh you cant please everyone.
But the pumpkin prices were left untouched, so im not sure where you got the 67% cut from.
Why were the melons cut anyway?
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Why were the melons cut anyway?
Because there is lot of players who accumulated too much money with automated farms and can play smp like it's creative..
Well that is what i think it's a reason :-\ but i'm not sure was that reason or some other
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Why were the melons cut anyway?
Because there is lot of players who accumulated too much money with automated farms and can play smp like it's creative..
Well that is what i think it's a reason :-\ but i'm not sure was that reason or some other
But you can just donate and get $500,000
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yes u can ;D ...and i got nothing else to think off for a price go down reason :)
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What's the point of melons going down when people can just buy money?
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What's the point of melons going down when people can just buy money?
Dr. Alfred Lanning: That, is the right question
Me:why melons price went down?
Dr. Alfred Lanning: I'm sorry. My responses are limited. You must ask the right questions
P.S:That is from movie I robot with Will Smith.....thought this was perfect place to put it :)
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Honestly, I don't care about the melons. If you lost 10k because you invested in a melon farm, TOO BAD. Do you see gold investor's crying to the president that the price of gold went down? NO. So stop crying, and act like a very nerdy man, not a 12 year old who has everything handed to him on a silver platter.
*stomps out and slams door*
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Why are you all still arguing?? /thread /thread /thread
I already posted a rebuttal and almost everyone agreed.
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What's the point of melons going down when people can just buy money?
That sounds like a good reason to lower melon prices to me.
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What's the point of melons going down when people can just buy money?
That sounds like a good reason to lower melon prices to me.
LMAO
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just farm pumpkins.... they r worth more now, u get $100 less than melons for 1/3 the pistons so u get alot more in the end + u get the block form pumpkin instead of slices
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I'll explain again, you break 3 melons, you have about 9 slices to make 1 melon block. You break a pumpkin u get 1 pumpkin, no crafting. 64 melons are $480, to get that you had to break about 192 melons. In that same time if you broke 192 pumpkins, you would have $960 ;D yes pumpkins are worth less but take less to make, and grow at the same rate as melons with no waste. so pumpkins are the way to go, thats why I've never bothered with melons. they take way too long to make the money from
yup lol
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Build a city with apartments,few stores,get people in there,rent a place take over one shop,put salesman and gatherers in there,craft a lot and sell a lot........and in no time u'l be Richie Rich ;D
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Honestly, I think player trade should be implemented in a more orderly fashion. they way that It would work is that you raise the prices of everything in the market by about 15% (Or more) and have a large area where people can 'buy' a shop. and these shops will contain chests and a sign above them just like the ones at the /warp market. But instead it gives the buyer X amount of items from the chest, for X price. and it's really easy to make.
It will require OP's to set the protection for the area. or you can simply place 11x11 protection stones for each 'shop' and allow the shop owner into the field. The prices of these shops would be significantly high since they are at the /warp market. they would cost as much as a diamond protection stone let's say. and each player is allowed to own one shop.
I understand that it could take massive amounts of space, but I'll leave that to my superiors to decide if they want to pass it or not.
Further on, the plugin could simply be made available to the Members + so they can use this at their own shops at their own /home. This would mean safer, faster & secure transactions when selling items. You cannot be cheated through this method, and the staff wouldn't have to deal with people complaining that they have not recieved promised items or money for whatever the two parties agreed on.
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Why dont we all keep in mind that melons arm't strictly for profit. They are for food.
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Why dont we all keep in mind that melons arm't strictly for profit. They are for food.
Well, they can be both. It's kinda like saying that we should grow trees and keep in mind that they are for planks, not for selling. And anyways, if there is a way to make money quickly, then we will follow that. We want to be able to buy whatever we want, therefore we like this method.
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Yeah, I can see where you go with that, I make my money off of mining so thats why I say that :P
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Well, consider people (such as me) who can go for days mining and only find a handful of items. They would prefer a different option. Why do something when you don't like it and you don't want to do it when there is an easier solution?
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When I ran a town I sold shop stalls and it worked great but it was hard to be there a lot that is the only problem I have with this
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It alomst like they want you to create an automatic farm.
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It alomst like they want you to create an automatic farm.
What do you mean by this?
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It alomst like they want you to create an automatic farm.
What do you mean by this?
So you won't pay for melons, you'll harvest them.
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It alomst like they want you to create an automatic farm.
What do you mean by this?
So you won't pay for melons, you'll harvest them.
The point of this thread was not that people were buying melons.....
read the thread please...
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I have. Twice now and I still think they want us to auto farm them. Until the price is driven further down, it would be much cheaper to make an auto farm than actually buy them. There is no fair market value, so optical can charge whatever he wants for them, creating the option of auto farming where all you need to buy are seeds.
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you are still not understanding this topic's purpose... it is complaining that the price of melon SELLING has dropped by half. as they used to sell fro $960 a stack, now they are SELLING at $460 a stack.
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you are still not understanding this topic's purpose... it is complaining that the price of melon SELLING has dropped by half. as they used to sell fro $960 a stack, now they are SELLING at $460 a stack.
So, the people who exploited / took advantage of that could become quick millionares? By quick, I mean a couple of hours.
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you are still not understanding this topic's purpose... it is complaining that the price of melon SELLING has dropped by half. as they used to sell fro $960 a stack, now they are SELLING at $460 a stack.
So, the people who exploited / took advantage of that could become quick millionares? By quick, I mean a couple of hours.
definitely not a couple of hours, it takes a lot of time, preparation, and money to create the automatic farms....
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you are still not understanding this topic's purpose... it is complaining that the price of melon SELLING has dropped by half. as they used to sell fro $960 a stack, now they are SELLING at $460 a stack.
So, the people who exploited / took advantage of that could become quick millionares? By quick, I mean a couple of hours.
definitely not a couple of hours, it takes a lot of time, preparation, and money to create the automatic farms....
Well, I mean the people that have large, manual farms already installed. It's a whole other story when we discuss automatic farms. The press of a button, and, depending on the size of the farm, a hell of a lot of stacks of melons comes out. Really, on OptiCraft, with the right determination and skill, a person can become a millionare quite quickly.
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you are still not understanding this topic's purpose... it is complaining that the price of melon SELLING has dropped by half. as they used to sell fro $960 a stack, now they are SELLING at $460 a stack.
So, the people who exploited / took advantage of that could become quick millionares? By quick, I mean a couple of hours.
definitely not a couple of hours, it takes a lot of time, preparation, and money to create the automatic farms....
I've spent close to 150-200k in materials on my melon farm, and on a good day I can net maybe 20k an hour. So quick millionare, no.. Before the price reduction and my last upgrade to it's size I made about 200k in 2 days worth of farming. Those 2 days meant sitting there doing almost nothing while waiting for melons to spawn. It's not like those of us that have auto farms can spend time building stuff while money magicly flows at us. We spend a lot of money and time making and farming to get our farms to make a decnet gain.
I'm not against the price change at all, I just wish the people that are complaining knew what kind of work went into the farms before crying about not having money.. I started playing this server a couple weeks ago and have almost 500k, I've even given away nearly half of that amount. So the excuse that new people can't get anywhere doesn't apply to this server.
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you are still not understanding this topic's purpose... it is complaining that the price of melon SELLING has dropped by half. as they used to sell fro $960 a stack, now they are SELLING at $460 a stack.
So, the people who exploited / took advantage of that could become quick millionares? By quick, I mean a couple of hours.
definitely not a couple of hours, it takes a lot of time, preparation, and money to create the automatic farms....
I've spent close to 150-200k in materials on my melon farm, and on a good day I can net maybe 20k an hour. So quick millionare, no.. Before the price reduction and my last upgrade to it's size I made about 200k in 2 days worth of farming. Those 2 days meant sitting there doing almost nothing while waiting for melons to spawn. It's not like those of us that have auto farms can spend time building stuff while money magicly flows at us. We spend a lot of money and time making and farming to get our farms to make a decnet gain.
I'm not against the price change at all, I just wish the people that are complaining knew what kind of work went into the farms before crying about not having money.. I started playing this server a couple weeks ago and have almost 500k, I've even given away nearly half of that amount. So the excuse that new people can't get anywhere doesn't apply to this server.
Let me rephrase that. A person can become a millionare in a little while with this method. Also, good job with the giving away of money. People must love you in that aspect. Helping out people withnthe econom is an awesome trai to have.
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I'm sorry, but this is causing way to much arguing, I'm going to be locking the topic, if any mods+ think it's wrong for me to do so, please unlock it if you feel that you wish to.
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