Opticraft Community
Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: ZXFEAR on March 29, 2012, 08:21:26 pm
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Hello fellow Opticrafters. You all know those griefers? All the random people in your home? Drawing too much attention of MOD’s? Well we have got a suggestion on how to reduce the traffic.
The Suggestion
We think that a new world is needed in the SMP server. This world could be run alongside the current world, with a warp between the 2 worlds. The second world however is only accessible by [Trusted] + ranked players, due to a few reasons that have arisen by the vast population increase. This large population increase has brought many good new players to the server, which has really helped boost the popularity. It has also brought many more greifers to the server, which has been of a large problem, hence why more staff have been introduced. But we feel we need to do something more than just an increase of staff. For the number of people who are of the [Trusted] rank, we think that new world for these players would be of massive benefit.
Benefits
These benefits include:
- Much more space for the [Trusted] players, which means there will be more space to build.
- Greifing will be significantly less in the new world, than in the first world as it excludes all Non-[Trusted] players from joining the world.
- This new world will give normal players a motive to carry on playing with us. They could eventually gain the trust of the staff and earn the [Trusted] rank and an exclusive world.
- It will free up space in the first world, which could be used by the Non-[Trusted] players.
- The staff would have to carry out little maintenance on the second world, and so they could focus on the first world.
Questions
Will the current [Trusted] players be able to take their items with them?
Thankyou
ZXFEAR & Terrewee
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This is allready in the planning :)
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This must happen <3
I don't particularly care if we can't even take stuff over, it will save so much in protecting big builds you have planned.
Also, I have an idea of how this could work. Optic could pre-load some chunks outside the world boarder, say 1000 blocks out. There would then be a warp to the center of this proloaded area. Only trusted could get there, and there would still be a world boarder in the middle. I think this works for everyone's plans.
EDIT: Just saw Hanno's post. <3 you SMP staff.
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This is already in the planning :)
We have had many discussions about this, and Optical has this as part of his plans to 'reface' the server (because we are long overdue for a need of revising).
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Seems like a great idea. Hopefully this comes through.
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well i'm glad we have a "go" then
we were like in the dark about future plans ;)
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We have stated before that we plan to do this but with a member+ world instead of trusted, you guys just need to pay more attention lol.
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We have stated before that we plan to do this but with a member+ world instead of trusted, you guys just need to pay more attention lol.
How about an exclusive part of the map for trusted :)
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We have stated before that we plan to do this but with a member+ world instead of trusted, you guys just need to pay more attention lol.
How about an exclusive part of the map for trusted :)
If trusted gets too much more than member, people will get upset.
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We have stated before that we plan to do this but with a member+ world instead of trusted, you guys just need to pay more attention lol.
How about an exclusive part of the map for trusted :)
They need to take things one step at a time to get the server just right. Alicia also has a point.
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Ok :P It was just an idea I just had...No problem though :D
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I hope it's not a new world, but new chunks loaded at the border...
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And the evolution to classic begins :) Personally I would love if each rank could get their own world or at least rank+ exculsive worlds like what was stated by Nick. Hope to see this happen whenever Optic is ready!
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There will only be 2 worlds, not a world for each rank.
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There will only be 2 worlds, not a world for each rank.
Good enough! :D
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you know what i'm afraid of... that griefers will sign up and go grief in the new world....
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In my opinion, a member+ world is no better than a guest world :/
Put it this way, all my animals were killed by members, and many, many griefers are members. Just because the members sign up, doesn't mean that they are good people. Please rethink this, if there is a trusted+ world, then people would try harder for trusted. I bet you, the spawns will look no different. Most griefers don't set out to grief in the first place. They will sign up, think "Huh, cool server". Then they will get griefed, go apeshit and grief someone else.
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There will only be 2 worlds, not a world for each rank.
Will items be shared in the two worlds? Eg I go guest world chop wood, then I go member world, will the wood be in my inv?
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They need to take things one step at a time to get the server just right. Alicia also has a point.
Hm.......I don't really like this idea...
you know what i'm afraid of... that griefers will sign up and go grief in the new world....
Also, this could happen.
This would make more people complaining that they want to be trusted because there is such a bigger change.
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I support this. Same as Sephir once did, SMP lost it's kick because of all the grief.
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It removes the alpha strikes, the main strikes of griefers.
For now that should be good enough, one step a time, in theory isnt always what works out best, so lets see how it goes first.
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I suggested this in a different thread, and I think a few others said the same:
Before you can build in the Member+ world, you have to have the 'Member' rank and have played for 2 total hours.
'But that's silly, 2 hours is too long!' Not at all, if we want a 99.9% grief free world, then we can only let the most dedicated players in to ensure we are letting the right people in. Also, time flys when your in a cave mining away, or building your dream house.
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Multi-Worlds are fun :D
Perhaps we can have a creative trusted world :)?
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Multi-Worlds are fun :D
Perhaps we can have a creative trusted world :)?
This^ The only peole who actually seriously have a reason for wanting creative are to design big builds. Basically every one of these players are trusted.
Even if only trusted+ could build, but anyone could join, that would be fine.
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2 worlds.Less overloading due the amount of players.Less lagging.And a better gameplay :D
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I agree, with Terre and Claw. The greifers will just abuse the system to get to the project/builds that are in the new world.
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I agree, with Terre and Claw. The greifers will just abuse the system to get to the project/builds that are in the new world.
Then let them waste their time. This isn't meant to stop griefing, it is meant to cut it down drastically. Also, there will be no trusted world because the rank itself is not given out on a constant basis. We have enough questions about how to get trusted this would just exacerbate those.
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I agree, with Terre and Claw. The greifers will just abuse the system to get to the project/builds that are in the new world.
Then let them waste their time. This isn't meant to stop griefing, it is meant to cut it down drastically. Also, there will be no trusted world because the rank itself is not given out on a constant basis. We have enough questions about how to get trusted this would just exacerbate those.
yeah i agree but if i am right the number of trusted people is the same as 1month ago.So the ops must also get much must online.Because they are not.nobody can be ranked to Trusted(This is no ask.I mean for allround
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Just curious when the new world is built, is it gonna have any extra features/ terrain changes that the current world we're using doesn't have? I heard that the update to 1.2 prevented some things without wiping the world clean (maybe they've been rectified by now)
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Multi-Worlds are fun :D
Perhaps we can have a creative trusted world :)?
This^ The only peole who actually seriously have a reason for wanting creative are to design big builds. Basically every one of these players are trusted.
Even if only trusted+ could build, but anyone could join, that would be fine.
Opti once said that creative is a future plan. However, he's busy focusing on the current 1-world server, so it probably won't happen anytime soon.
Also, it's kinda funny that you just got trusted recently and now you are asking to seperate trusted and member, with rank exclusive worlds lol.
Personally, trusteds don't need their own world for the very reason Nick stated. This would increase the complaints and questions about the trusted rank from many of our members and guests. I understand that a lot of us are griefed but I think splitting from guests should reduce a lot of that. Besides, there's a reason moderators exist. They should be fixing any and all griefs when they can, or at least try....
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To answer many questions at once:
- Having a world for every rank would put a serious strain on the server bandwidth, which constitutes to more lag. Also, it would increase the number of needless questions that can be easily answered just by browsing the forums (a la 'how do I get Trusted?').
- The new world will be the one for new players to join (which will have all the current 1.2 biomes implemented instead of being overshadowed by the 1.1 landmasses)
- Lots of clean-up will be done on the old world during the conversion, so out with the Very old, and in with the new. Not sure how it could be done without using regeneration though...
I doubt that we will have any creative world implemented, since this is to remain a Core SMP server-- however, an idea I do have if that were to be brought in here is to have some sort of a small "Sandbox" world for all players to build and host building events/ contests in.
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Sounds good!
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Xeadin there is a option to do this what you say.But its opticals thing.........Split the server(2 hostname's)But its cost a whole hand so i think not he do this
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Xeadin there is a option to do this what you say.But its opticals thing.........Split the server(2 hostname's)But its cost a whole hand so i think not he do this
Whoa, whoa... we'd rather not complicate the whole thing even further. We need to keep it in one general location.
Switching between two different SMP servers is not an option at this point
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That is what is just say't:I think he not do this thing
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Sorry but i can't understand half of your posts victino.
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Sorry but i can't understand half of your posts victino.
Like.
Anyways, I think it will be an excellent implementation. The only thing is, I'm gonna miss showing off to the noobs :P
One downside though is that a ton of people are going to ask to be trusted, and it would get annoying. But if it's not an issue to you, by all means go ahead. I'm not saying it will be a large or small issue, just saying it might occur.
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Sorry but i can't understand half of your posts victino.
"This is what I just said, He should not do such thing"
;) :P