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Title: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: SalasCraft on January 13, 2012, 02:51:52 am
For those who don't know:  http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/what_you_need_to_know_about_sopa_in_2012.php (http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/what_you_need_to_know_about_sopa_in_2012.php)

It's pretty scary if you ask me.
I hope this really doesn't go through.
It might actually start a civil world war.

The point is: All user sharing sites won't work the same at all. Not even user content, like videos , pictures etc... But ideas you might have, could get you in trouble if you share them on the internet. it's really.... i don't even have words.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Relkeb on January 13, 2012, 03:39:14 am
It is quite scary.

I'm terrified, and I don't even live in the U.S.. If the bill were ever to pass, it would no doubt give Harper and the right wing government an incentive to support a similar bill here in Canada.

Fortunately, websites such as wikipedia and google are totally against SOPA, and are planning "blackouts" as support for anti-SOPA. So is reddit-- it seems everday now redditors are targeting bill supporter-congressman and practically forcing them to withdraw their support in SOPA.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: EliteDelta on January 13, 2012, 04:07:00 am
Not like I can really do anything, I just go with the flow...  8)

Nah not really, I think this is quite an issue and I truly hope this bill is not passed, or bye-bye sanity for me. O_o
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: TarynMai on January 13, 2012, 04:35:28 am
I dont think it will pass. There are too many protesters (Im one. :D) and they will start a riot. This law will put the world in chaos, run people out of business, and be incredibly inconvenient. DeviantART (art website I always use), youtube, facebook, all my manga reading sites, they'll be destroyed. And people will go nuts.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Relkeb on January 13, 2012, 04:42:15 am
If this bill passes I will lose all hope for the United States (from what little hope I have left..). This bill would truly change the face of North America, and eventually the entire world as countries would try to imitate.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: EliteDelta on January 13, 2012, 04:45:45 am
People have no reason to imitate this, it is the worst idea I have ever heard(other than dying my hair green).
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: SalasCraft on January 13, 2012, 05:02:24 am
It is quite scary.

I'm terrified, and I don't even live in the U.S.. If the bill were ever to pass, it would no doubt give Harper and the right wing government an incentive to support a similar bill here in Canada.

Fortunately, websites such as wikipedia and google are totally against SOPA, and are planning "blackouts" as support for anti-SOPA. So is reddit-- it seems everday now redditors are targeting bill supporter-congressman and practically forcing them to withdraw their support in SOPA.
Exactly, I am not in the U.S. either (even though I'm still U.S. Territory) But the whole world would be affected, since most of the big web pages and stuff around the world house their servers in the U.S.

I guess this is why the world will end in 2012.

Nah, joking aside I am terrified, and even though I'm sure we can overcome this bill, It still gives me chills (that line was not taken from Dr. Seuss)
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on January 13, 2012, 05:09:22 am
This is a horrible bill, I don't think it will be passed though.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: morgosin on January 13, 2012, 05:21:23 am
Most of the older senators have know clue what sopa is really about... They hear" It blocks pornography" and there all for it. Most of them that do this don't even use the internet.

The scariest part is If it does get passed it will shutdown not only block pornography, but also block any sight against the government. It will affect sights like: Youtube, reddit, 4chan, Wikipedia, Google, Bing, and many others.

Here is a link to a video done by a respected Game Comentator, and Law Graduate."TotalBusquit" Who is in the UK and is terrified of this bill becuase it will affect him and all the world along with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watchv=JhwuXNv8fJM&feature=plcp&context=C3f5b82dUDOEgsToPDskJTkEFndEHP8h9NP3QwvLCW (http://www.youtube.com/watchv=JhwuXNv8fJM&feature=plcp&context=C3f5b82dUDOEgsToPDskJTkEFndEHP8h9NP3QwvLCW)
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: clawstrider on January 13, 2012, 07:26:26 am
Here is a link to a video done by a respected Game Comentator, and Law Graduate."TotalBusquit" Who is in the UK and is terrified of this bill becuase it will affect him and all the world along with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watchv=JhwuXNv8fJM&feature=plcp&context=C3f5b82dUDOEgsToPDskJTkEFndEHP8h9NP3QwvLCW (http://www.youtube.com/watchv=JhwuXNv8fJM&feature=plcp&context=C3f5b82dUDOEgsToPDskJTkEFndEHP8h9NP3QwvLCW)

Its done by "TotalBiscuit" and your link doesn't work :/

Here is another link: Clicky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_113100&src_vid=HriNzsp89lM&v=JhwuXNv8fJM&feature=iv)
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Nyssa on January 13, 2012, 10:31:00 am
Pfft America is trying to imitate the rest of the world, Australia has already had something like this pushed.. Not to mention Asian places.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: raul7legend on January 13, 2012, 11:31:19 am
Hopefully it won't pass.
If it will it will have an effect on the whole world immediately, which can cause problems.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Relkeb on January 13, 2012, 02:41:51 pm
People have no reason to imitate this, it is the worst idea I have ever heard(other than dying my hair green).

Yet its being voted on in the U.S.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Relkeb on January 13, 2012, 03:47:22 pm
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqZS9Q.jpg&hash=d29f306a7067015c861915c8956ba0bc)
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Spamarian on January 13, 2012, 05:13:13 pm
haha...
We live in times of technological revolution. This revolution brings also laws, bills, restrictions. We will live with it, when it will happen.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Nick3306 on January 13, 2012, 05:22:41 pm
There is very little chance it will pass due to that fact that most corporations are against it. Now that the supreme court ruled corporations are people and can give unlimited money to campaigns, they are the ones pulling the strings.

Also, president obama will veto the bill, that means the senate would need a 67 yes votes to pass it.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Relkeb on January 13, 2012, 07:50:26 pm
Yeah I highly doubt it'll pass. However, that doesn't mean that they will give up. I think this is just round one. Next year they'll come back with it with more reasoning behind it and a better plan. We need to make sure that this shit is gone for good.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: turtleman918 on January 14, 2012, 03:46:42 am
It is highly unlikely the bill will pass. It is terrible nonetheless. Looks like this lamar smith guy takes advice from china.

It is quite scary.

I'm terrified, and I don't even live in the U.S.. If the bill were ever to pass, it would no doubt give Harper and the right wing government an incentive to support a similar bill here in Canada.

Fortunately, websites such as wikipedia and google are totally against SOPA, and are planning "blackouts" as support for anti-SOPA. So is reddit-- it seems everday now redditors are targeting bill supporter-congressman and practically forcing them to withdraw their support in SOPA.
This bill is based on a socialistic-communistic principle. Not a republican nor conservative republican one.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Nick3306 on January 14, 2012, 03:50:34 am
It is highly unlikely the bill will pass. It is terrible nonetheless. Looks like this lamar smith guy takes advice from china.

It is quite scary.

I'm terrified, and I don't even live in the U.S.. If the bill were ever to pass, it would no doubt give Harper and the right wing government an incentive to support a similar bill here in Canada.

Fortunately, websites such as wikipedia and google are totally against SOPA, and are planning "blackouts" as support for anti-SOPA. So is reddit-- it seems everday now redditors are targeting bill supporter-congressman and practically forcing them to withdraw their support in SOPA.
This bill is based on a socialistic-communistic principle. Not a republican nor conservative republican one.
Explain.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: raul7legend on January 14, 2012, 06:40:36 am
It is highly unlikely the bill will pass. It is terrible nonetheless. Looks like this lamar smith guy takes advice from china.

It is quite scary.

I'm terrified, and I don't even live in the U.S.. If the bill were ever to pass, it would no doubt give Harper and the right wing government an incentive to support a similar bill here in Canada.

Fortunately, websites such as wikipedia and google are totally against SOPA, and are planning "blackouts" as support for anti-SOPA. So is reddit-- it seems everday now redditors are targeting bill supporter-congressman and practically forcing them to withdraw their support in SOPA.
This bill is based on a socialistic-communistic principle. Not a republican nor conservative republican one.
You never had a citizenship class, did you?
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: clawstrider on January 14, 2012, 09:27:37 am
It is highly unlikely the bill will pass. It is terrible nonetheless. Looks like this lamar smith guy takes advice from china.

It is quite scary.

I'm terrified, and I don't even live in the U.S.. If the bill were ever to pass, it would no doubt give Harper and the right wing government an incentive to support a similar bill here in Canada.

Fortunately, websites such as wikipedia and google are totally against SOPA, and are planning "blackouts" as support for anti-SOPA. So is reddit-- it seems everday now redditors are targeting bill supporter-congressman and practically forcing them to withdraw their support in SOPA.
This bill is based on a socialistic-communistic principle. Not a republican nor conservative republican one.
Explain.

Ctrl C + Ctrl V :P
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Complicated_Name on January 15, 2012, 04:02:14 am
This won't pass.

All of the major corporations are against it, and public outcry will go against it.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: turtleman918 on January 16, 2012, 12:45:23 am
It is highly unlikely the bill will pass. It is terrible nonetheless. Looks like this lamar smith guy takes advice from china.

It is quite scary.

I'm terrified, and I don't even live in the U.S.. If the bill were ever to pass, it would no doubt give Harper and the right wing government an incentive to support a similar bill here in Canada.

Fortunately, websites such as wikipedia and google are totally against SOPA, and are planning "blackouts" as support for anti-SOPA. So is reddit-- it seems everday now redditors are targeting bill supporter-congressman and practically forcing them to withdraw their support in SOPA.
This bill is based on a socialistic-communistic principle. Not a republican nor conservative republican one.
Explain.
It appears to be a move to allow the government further control of the economy. Or at least thats the way it appears to me.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: morgosin on January 16, 2012, 01:23:57 am
This won't pass.

All of the major corporations are against it, and public outcry will go against it.

You forget congressmen don't listen to the people anymore... They do whatever the hell they want to do... Then worry about it later at election time.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Victor1261 on January 16, 2012, 02:00:52 am
I definitely am against it. [REMOVED] by me

Here's a little vid I think you guys should watch on S.O.P.A.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w6GtwOvnWM

What do you think of it?

Everybody remembers A.C.T.A. right?

Here's a little video to refresh your memory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=citzRjwk-sQ

This video is a much more informative video on S.O.P.A.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8fJM

Hope these videos helped!

Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Nick3306 on January 16, 2012, 03:04:27 am
This won't pass.

All of the major corporations are against it, and public outcry will go against it.

You forget congressmen don't listen to the people anymore... They do whatever the hell they want to do... Then worry about it later at election time.
But they do listen to corporations, and most corporations are against this.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Complicated_Name on January 16, 2012, 03:13:07 am
This won't pass.

All of the major corporations are against it, and public outcry will go against it.

You forget congressmen don't listen to the people anymore... They do whatever the hell they want to do... Then worry about it later at election time.
But they do listen to corporations, and most corporations are against this.
Exactly.

From what i read in the article that this "S.O.P.A" would shut down sites like youtube, facebook, google, wikipedia, or bing. Thats idiotic, the internet would be nothing without google or bing, what other search engine is there? Youtube, there is no other site that big for video hosting, it is know around the world, congress cant just shut this down, and about 99.9999% of youtube is not piracy, and S.O.P.A is agianst piracy,and also not much piracy is on facebook. Does that mean you have to shut it down? NO!
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Nick3306 on January 16, 2012, 04:48:39 am
Lucho, dont take everything that article says as something that is going to happen, that article assumes a lot of things. We really don't know exactly what will happen if this bill passes, all we know is that it looks like a recipe for disaster. 
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: turtleman918 on January 17, 2012, 03:19:04 am
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F01%2Fkoma-comic-strip-i-want-to-live-on-this-planet.jpg&hash=c12ff36faaf251cecb980df374a543b8)
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: matt88222 on January 17, 2012, 04:30:59 am
As I've seen someone else state, we still need to be active against PIPA, which is still in play.  This is likely an example of a common technique to get it to pass.  SOPA was created to be ridiculous and hated, and now PIPA will look less ridiculous/more reasonable in comparison and more likely to pass.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door-in-the-face_technique


PIPA is nearly the same thing.  Sadly it's not over yet.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: EliteDelta on January 18, 2012, 09:37:05 pm
Did you hear? Mojang is protesting against SOPA and PIPA too!
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1103.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg480%2FEliteDelta64%2FMojangVsSOPA.jpg&hash=4f65d7e9e220d4a5177b3e695e3f3387)
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: SoulKnightGT on January 18, 2012, 09:40:39 pm
Did you hear? Mojang is protesting against SOPA and PIPA too!
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1103.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg480%2FEliteDelta64%2FMojangVsSOPA.jpg&hash=4f65d7e9e220d4a5177b3e695e3f3387)
Of course...
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on January 18, 2012, 10:00:20 pm
Did you hear? Mojang is protesting against SOPA and PIPA too!
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g480/EliteDelta64/MojangVsSOPA.jpg
<3
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Victor1261 on January 18, 2012, 10:43:54 pm
The English Wikipedia was shut down today along with the minecraft website. Google placed a censor black box over their logo. They say Google will do a black out too but I'm still not sure when. Remember to sign the petition that Google has for us!
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Nick3306 on January 18, 2012, 10:45:44 pm
Wikipedia didnt shut its site down, they just made everything redirect to a diff page. So if you stop the browser from loading before it redirects, you can use wikipedia.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Dumbbomb(sexyleopard) on January 18, 2012, 11:29:43 pm
wait im using a different computer and now i cant down load it! what the heck to i do!  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Your_Mine on January 18, 2012, 11:36:34 pm
Wikipedia didnt shut its site down, they just made everything redirect to a diff page. So if you stop the browser from loading before it redirects, you can use wikipedia.
You can also disable javascript in your browser, and use wikipedia normally.

As for the bill, it smacks of Prohibition here in the U.S.  It seemed like a good idea (alchohol is bad, etc.), but proved ineffective and difficult to enforce.  Even if by some chance SOPA does pass, it will probably be repealed just like Prohibition was.  Stuff on the internet is pretty much impossible to block out or censor.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Spartan on January 19, 2012, 12:06:49 am
Easy bypass of wikipedia:

Go to spanish version of wikipedia and copy and paste into a translater :D
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: SalasCraft on January 19, 2012, 12:08:32 am
Easy bypass of wikipedia:

Go to spanish version of wikipedia and copy and paste into a translater :D

Haha I know, i get the Spanish wiki by default because of my location. :P
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: clawstrider on January 19, 2012, 07:20:33 am
Easier bypass. When an address like this loads:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/clawstrider

Pop an m here:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/clawstrider

You get through in english, with no fiddly stuff.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Mr.Monkey on January 19, 2012, 04:03:19 pm
Surprising how the makers of the simpsons movie saw this coming in 2007 ^^
I bet all who've seen it remember the scene in the church where grampa goes mad and tell about horrible thing to happen cus of the EPA. He had the last 2 letters right ^^.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO1PfMubzWM

Terrible things are going to happen;
They're going to happen to you, and you, and you!;
people of Springfield, heed this warning!
Twisted tail!
A thousand eyes!
Trapped forever!!
Beware! Beware! Time is short. Eeepa! Eeepa! Eeeeeeepaaaaa!

Someone should do a voice-over on this XD
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: SalasCraft on January 19, 2012, 05:27:50 pm
Surprising how the makers of the simpsons movie saw this coming in 2007 ^^
I bet all who've seen it remember the scene in the church where grampa goes mad and tell about horrible thing to happen cus of the EPA. He had the last 2 letters right ^^.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO1PfMubzWM

Terrible things are going to happen;
They're going to happen to you, and you, and you!;
people of Springfield, heed this warning!
Twisted tail!
A thousand eyes!
Trapped forever!!
Beware! Beware! Time is short. Eeepa! Eeepa! Eeeeeeepaaaaa!

Someone should do a voice-over on this XD
EPA = Environment Protection Agency

Not related at all.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: SoulKnightGT on January 19, 2012, 06:19:51 pm
Surprising how the makers of the simpsons movie saw this coming in 2007 ^^
I bet all who've seen it remember the scene in the church where grampa goes mad and tell about horrible thing to happen cus of the EPA. He had the last 2 letters right ^^.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO1PfMubzWM

Terrible things are going to happen;
They're going to happen to you, and you, and you!;
people of Springfield, heed this warning!
Twisted tail!
A thousand eyes!
Trapped forever!!
Beware! Beware! Time is short. Eeepa! Eeepa! Eeeeeeepaaaaa!

Someone should do a voice-over on this XD
EPA = Environment Protection Agency

Not related at all.
You know he meant the "PA" and just change the words  ::)
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: SalasCraft on January 19, 2012, 07:37:07 pm
Surprising how the makers of the simpsons movie saw this coming in 2007 ^^
I bet all who've seen it remember the scene in the church where grampa goes mad and tell about horrible thing to happen cus of the EPA. He had the last 2 letters right ^^.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO1PfMubzWM

Terrible things are going to happen;
They're going to happen to you, and you, and you!;
people of Springfield, heed this warning!
Twisted tail!
A thousand eyes!
Trapped forever!!
Beware! Beware! Time is short. Eeepa! Eeepa! Eeeeeeepaaaaa!

Someone should do a voice-over on this XD
EPA = Environment Protection Agency

Not related at all.
You know he meant the "PA" and just change the words  ::)
Still doesn't make sense  :P
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Mr.Monkey on January 19, 2012, 09:07:30 pm
It's offtopic, does it need to make sense? :D Anyway, this entire sopa-pipa story could get a 'twisting tail' in the end. The government with 'a thousand eyes' watching your every move. 'Trapped forever' in an unknowing society, with only information the government wants you to know. 'Time is short.' If we don't act, this bill will pass.

Not so unrelated after all eh ;)
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: SalasCraft on January 19, 2012, 09:49:40 pm
Did you guys hear about Megaupload?
Got shut down today by the FBI and the employees got arrested.

I guess the bill doesn't have to pass to start messing up with the internet.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: Nick3306 on January 19, 2012, 10:13:35 pm
Did you guys hear about Megaupload?
Got shut down today by the FBI and the employees got arrested.

I guess the bill doesn't have to pass to start messing up with the internet.
Before people start crying foul, read (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/technology/indictment-charges-megaupload-site-with-piracy.html) up on it first. This is the one good thing SOPA would do, it would shut down sites that are used largely for piracy.
Title: Re: What do you guys think of S.O.P.A.?
Post by: SalasCraft on January 19, 2012, 10:19:00 pm
Did you guys hear about Megaupload?
Got shut down today by the FBI and the employees got arrested.

I guess the bill doesn't have to pass to start messing up with the internet.
Before people start crying foul, read (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/technology/indictment-charges-megaupload-site-with-piracy.html) up on it first. This is the one good thing SOPA would do, it would shut down sites that are used largely for piracy.
I agree with the stop piracy thing, but they also use that to mask their other intentions.

I just think it's weird... the bill has not been signed yet, and they seem to have started raiding.