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Title: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Mattkkk12345 on June 11, 2014, 08:53:51 pm
So, I'm trying to look around for a 'Gaming' desktop with a monitor for £550 (925$ roughly) or less. I've been looking at many but are sadly too far out of my budget. I'm looking at around Nvidia GTX 650-60 or there abouts for graphics and so far i haven't managed to find Past an i3 from Intel or an AMD at 2.05 ghz. I'm not looking to go maxed out here (Not that i could with the tight budget anyway...), it just needs to be a decent build, i'd appreciate any recommendations from you guys.

Thanks
  - Matt
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Chipaton on June 11, 2014, 09:28:42 pm
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZvrGnQ

That should be perfect, but you may want to get a second opinion since I threw that together pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Mattkkk12345 on June 11, 2014, 09:50:58 pm
Looks good but I have in idea how to build a computer lol.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Chipaton on June 11, 2014, 09:56:44 pm
Looks good but I have in idea how to build a computer lol.
Im guessing you meant you have no idea? Just look up a video, it is really easy. Just like legos. Getting a prebuilt at your budget is going to be hard if not impossible, and wont be close to the power of this build. This build will be maxing every game.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Mattkkk12345 on June 11, 2014, 11:48:52 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you at least need some sort of CPU cooler, and case fan? Also how can the equivalent of a 0.8 ghz video card be that good, and why in the options I oddly never see more than 1.2 ghz or so for even the 660's.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Nick3306 on June 12, 2014, 12:41:25 am
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you at least need some sort of CPU cooler, and case fan? Also how can the equivalent of a 0.8 ghz video card be that good, and why in the options I oddly never see more than 1.2 ghz or so for even the 660's.
every CPU comes with a CPU cooler just as ever case comes with fans.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Chipaton on June 12, 2014, 03:02:37 am
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you at least need some sort of CPU cooler, and case fan? Also how can the equivalent of a 0.8 ghz video card be that good, and why in the options I oddly never see more than 1.2 ghz or so for even the 660's.
You can overclock the GPU to your liking. That GPU has a good cooling system.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Mattkkk12345 on June 12, 2014, 06:57:35 am
Thanks for your help, I watched a tutorial on how to make one, not as hard a I imagined! Anyways, what do you make of this, I tweaked it a bit.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mattwhizz/saved/bCkj4D
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Chipaton on June 12, 2014, 05:08:54 pm
Thanks for your help, I watched a tutorial on how to make one, not as hard a I imagined! Anyways, what do you make of this, I tweaked it a bit.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mattwhizz/saved/bCkj4D
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DLVBhM

That should be better. Dont go with any GTX 600 series card as they are outdated, especially the 660. I know this one is slightly more expensive but it will be much much better than the build you listed. If needed you can go with a 6300 instead of an 8350 or an R9 270x.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Mattkkk12345 on June 12, 2014, 10:48:43 pm
By now i've grasped the fact that if you plug the vga out from the default port on the side of the computer it'll default to the motherboards integrated graphics and if you plug it directly to the videocard it will disable the motherboard graphics and use those, quick question, where do you lead the hdmi cable from the middle of your computer (video card) to outside -> monitor, there doesn't seem to be any hole or anything, correct me if i'm wrong on this, thanks.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Gogar72 on June 12, 2014, 10:56:05 pm
I'm about to upgrade my pc to a 7.3 based point avg. I'll put the parts in this post later when I have time.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: LIEKABOWSE on June 12, 2014, 11:18:03 pm
By now i've grasped the fact that if you plug the vga out from the default port on the side of the computer it'll default to the motherboards integrated graphics and if you plug it directly to the videocard it will disable the motherboard graphics and use those, quick question, where do you lead the hdmi cable from the middle of your computer (video card) to outside -> monitor, there doesn't seem to be any hole or anything, correct me if i'm wrong on this, thanks.

What?
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Mattkkk12345 on June 12, 2014, 11:21:53 pm
By now i've grasped the fact that if you plug the vga out from the default port on the side of the computer it'll default to the motherboards integrated graphics and if you plug it directly to the videocard it will disable the motherboard graphics and use those, quick question, where do you lead the hdmi cable from the middle of your computer (video card) to outside -> monitor, there doesn't seem to be any hole or anything, correct me if i'm wrong on this, thanks.

What?

In Essence, if I want to use the Video card and not the mobos integrated graphics, if I plug a hdmi to the video card, how do I lead it outside of the case to get to the monitor considering the case is closed.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: LIEKABOWSE on June 12, 2014, 11:42:15 pm
By now i've grasped the fact that if you plug the vga out from the default port on the side of the computer it'll default to the motherboards integrated graphics and if you plug it directly to the videocard it will disable the motherboard graphics and use those, quick question, where do you lead the hdmi cable from the middle of your computer (video card) to outside -> monitor, there doesn't seem to be any hole or anything, correct me if i'm wrong on this, thanks.

What?

In Essence, if I want to use the Video card and not the mobos integrated graphics, if I plug a hdmi to the video card, how do I lead it outside of the case to get to the monitor considering the case is closed.
The video card's ports will stick out of the back of the case if that's what you mean?
edit: you also might want to consider not using hdmi unless you have a monitor that supports it, there's not alot of monitors that do. most will have dvi as its primary, and basically all graphics cards have dvi's on them
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Chipaton on June 13, 2014, 12:14:58 am
I dont think your monitor even supports hdmi, just use DVI.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Mattkkk12345 on June 13, 2014, 05:27:18 pm
So i'd need a DVI to VGA Cable? I didn't think the screen had dvi. I just googled the video card and this is what i came up with.
"Output - DL-DVI-I : 1 Output - HDMI : 1 Output - mini DP : 1 Output - SL-DVI-D : 1 - S"
Also, thanks Lieka, i didn't realise it went out the side of the case.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Chipaton on June 13, 2014, 11:39:34 pm
So i'd need a DVI to VGA Cable? I didn't think the screen had dvi. I just googled the video card and this is what i came up with.
"Output - DL-DVI-I : 1 Output - HDMI : 1 Output - mini DP : 1 Output - SL-DVI-D : 1 - S"
Also, thanks Lieka, i didn't realise it went out the side of the case.
Dont use VGA. Ever. Use DVI.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Nick3306 on June 14, 2014, 01:07:25 am
Any decent monitor with come with a DVI in just as any decent GPU will come with a DVI out.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: 100penguin. on June 14, 2014, 04:28:16 pm
I recommend PCpro.co.uk. Good reviews on most computers. Obviously a large proportion of the gaming machines are either mind bogglingly expensive or phallic statements, but some of the higher end computers not in the gaming category are pretty neat. Also remember most gaming machines are built ONLY for gaming and are shite for anything else, whereas some higher end ones are able to do all the normal stuff that a computer can whilst also having the beef to deal with most games.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Tobs on June 14, 2014, 04:56:08 pm
Also remember most gaming machines are built ONLY for gaming and are shite for anything else, whereas some higher end ones are able to do all the normal stuff that a computer can whilst also having the beef to deal with most games.

Gaming PCs are built with gaming in mind, it's not that they can't do the other stuff (which they can, and will do even better than the average PC) but have added extras; faster processor, more RAM, better graphics card etc. to make games run faster and smoother than they would do normally. Gaming PCs have much better hardware, that's why they cost more and with current or future games it's if you want to invest in a decent Gaming PC.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Nick3306 on June 14, 2014, 05:54:56 pm
I recommend PCpro.co.uk. Good reviews on most computers. Obviously a large proportion of the gaming machines are either mind bogglingly expensive or phallic statements, but some of the higher end computers not in the gaming category are pretty neat. Also remember most gaming machines are built ONLY for gaming and are shite for anything else, whereas some higher end ones are able to do all the normal stuff that a computer can whilst also having the beef to deal with most games.
This is just false. The only thing that makes a gaming pc different from a regular pc is that it has better hardware to run games. A gaming PC can do anything and do it very well because its still a PC.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Chipaton on June 14, 2014, 06:01:18 pm
I recommend PCpro.co.uk. Good reviews on most computers. Obviously a large proportion of the gaming machines are either mind bogglingly expensive or phallic statements, but some of the higher end computers not in the gaming category are pretty neat. Also remember most gaming machines are built ONLY for gaming and are shite for anything else, whereas some higher end ones are able to do all the normal stuff that a computer can whilst also having the beef to deal with most games.
This is just false. The only thing that makes a gaming pc different from a regular pc is that it has better hardware to run games. A gaming PC can do anything and do it very well because its still a PC.
But can you run Minesweeper?
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: LIEKABOWSE on June 14, 2014, 11:53:51 pm
I recommend PCpro.co.uk. Good reviews on most computers. Obviously a large proportion of the gaming machines are either mind bogglingly expensive or phallic statements, but some of the higher end computers not in the gaming category are pretty neat. Also remember most gaming machines are built ONLY for gaming and are shite for anything else, whereas some higher end ones are able to do all the normal stuff that a computer can whilst also having the beef to deal with most games.
This is just false. The only thing that makes a gaming pc different from a regular pc is that it has better hardware to run games. A gaming PC can do anything and do it very well because its still a PC.
But can you run Minesweeper?
Quote
CPU:    Do you have a computer? Good - off to a good start.
RAM:    You need the bare minimum. Unless you want to mod and play on a 100000000x100000000 grid.
OS:    Windows 3.1
Video Card:    If you can read THIS, you pass.
heh, system requirements lab's minimum specs. I only have 8GB of ram and windows 7, I don't think I can run it. It's a huge download, too.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Chipaton on June 15, 2014, 12:03:04 am
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You're gonna need this if you want to do serious gaming.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: LIEKABOWSE on June 15, 2014, 06:11:15 am
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You're gonna need this if you want to do serious gaming.
FTFY
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Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: 100penguin. on June 15, 2014, 02:04:13 pm
Eh. Either way it's just my opinion. I personally wouldn't specifically get a gaming pc, just get a high end one where your money translates into proper gear of which there are many of varying quality.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Nick3306 on June 15, 2014, 03:28:02 pm
Eh. Either way it's just my opinion. I personally wouldn't specifically get a gaming pc, just get a high end one where your money translates into proper gear of which there are many of varying quality.
I dont think you understand what exactly a gaming PC is or how the parts work and stuff.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: LIEKABOWSE on June 16, 2014, 02:04:38 am
Eh. Either way it's just my opinion. I personally wouldn't specifically get a gaming pc, just get a high end one where your money translates into proper gear of which there are many of varying quality.

Gaming pc= pc that can play games. Literally nothing else different about a regular old desktop that you can pick up for a couple hundred bucks. It's seriously nothing else than that besides more powerful hardware, making it actually better for everything else unlike you said it would be shite for anything else.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: PsYk0Wo1F on June 25, 2014, 11:09:18 am
bit late, but, on topic of the GTX 660, i own one myself and id reccomend against it at this time. for around the same price you could pick up a 750 TI, which is about the same performance, for half the power requirement. you can do better than a 660 now.
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Wratkie on June 26, 2014, 10:36:25 pm
Build an AMD system!  8)
Title: Re: Gaming Desktops
Post by: Mattkkk12345 on June 30, 2014, 09:38:41 pm
Build an AMD system!  8)
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd8320frhkbox  :D