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Title: Mob egg donation
Post by: bubblekiller on March 15, 2013, 02:43:54 pm
Well this post has be lost in the ecos and i would like to start it back up again, the suggestion of bein able to buy spawn eegs as a donation, would make the server quit a bit more, and findin anamals are next to impissible again, so give some thos because theres a bug that anamals cant come to the end which they do in single player, so give me your thots on this
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: LIEKABOWSE on March 15, 2013, 02:48:36 pm
Well this post has be lost in the ecos and i would like to start it back up again, the suggestion of bein able to buy spawn eegs as a donation, would make the server quit a bit more, and findin anamals are next to impissible again, so give some thos because theres a bug that anamals cant come to the end which they do in single player, so give me your thots on this
as you said, this was already discussed but I think Nick ended up probably rejecting it
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: Xeadin on March 15, 2013, 03:16:49 pm
I'm just going to drop this here from the other spawn egg topic:

We currently have no plans of allowing spawn eggs at all.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Chief149 on March 15, 2013, 04:11:29 pm
I thought Opticalza liked the idea of donating for spawn eggs in one of the other suggestion threads, but it kinda worked it's way into thin air simply because Opti had enough other stuff to do.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Sugna on March 15, 2013, 06:09:00 pm
I would spend tons of money on spawn eggs.  This is an amazing idea. PLEASE DO NOT DROP THIS D:
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Chief149 on March 15, 2013, 07:05:35 pm
I'm just going to drop this here from the other spawn egg topic:

We currently have no plans of allowing spawn eggs at all.

I'm just gonna drop this here as well:

Quote from: optical
Quote from: Mr_Mr_Mr
$5 for 2 eggs does seem expensive, if I were to buy spawn eggs, I'd spend $5 for 8. The reason why I'd pay $5 for 8 is because someone might kill all of your animals again and I would like backups and not have to spend $5 every single time they get killed.
A deal package that would be nice to have is every mob egg (sheep, cow, pig, wolf, mushroom cow) would be $10 for 4 of each egg.

There is no chicken in there because you can just buy eggs from the market and throw them.

Sounds good - I do quite like this idea.

Keep the suggestions on pricing / quantity coming


And to prove I am not coming up with fake quotes: http://www.opticraft.net/index.php/topic,12261.0.html


Then Nick came on later in the thread to say they would never be added, but he never said if he was also speaking on behalf of optical or not, or if he just wanted to calm down the "excitement" of those wanting spawn eggs as a donor item.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Holy_Moses on March 15, 2013, 07:32:29 pm
I think it would be a pretty cool idea for a donation. Especially since in 1.5 you can rename Spawn Eggs with anvils, it will be alot more promising for users.
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Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Chief149 on March 15, 2013, 07:39:51 pm
Now there's a potential reason for spawn eggs to be an item obtainable as a donator item or in the market. You can't get named mobs without that feature XD lol. Obviously the biggest reason for this idea to make it through to the server.

But in all honesty, that would be fun to have a village with named villagers XD
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: joshskiizz on March 15, 2013, 10:03:35 pm
I think it would be a pretty cool idea for a donation. Especially since in 1.5 you can rename Spawn Eggs with anvils, it will be alot more promising for users.
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I would fucking love this. I really hope that with this update, the idea of these spawn eggs for donation is reconsidered. It would bring a new potential feature for enjoyment. I think it would be a lot of fun to be able to get these.

It's simple, no plugin is necessary, just the decision of augmenting this to the donation rewards.
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: hammysandwhich on March 15, 2013, 10:19:15 pm
I quite like this idea.  Have a dog called Jamie <3 or maybe a pig...
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: Xeadin on March 16, 2013, 12:10:46 am
I quite like this idea.  Have a dog called Jamie <3 or maybe a pig...

http://youtu.be/anoO3K5vOEg?t=21s
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: Chief149 on March 16, 2013, 01:03:57 am
I quite like this idea.  Have a dog called Jamie <3 or maybe a pig...

http://youtu.be/anoO3K5vOEg?t=21s

Watched all the way to part 9 lol. Aparently there's no part 10 AND IT ENDED WITH A CLIFHANGAR!!! Just like the end of Half Life 2 Episode 2!!!
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: DeeKay on March 16, 2013, 01:41:43 am
I have seen this work quite well on another server. I personally wouldn't donate for something I could potentially find in the game, but other people seem to be really like the idea.
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: Chief149 on March 16, 2013, 01:44:44 am
Except you can't find them in game. Spawn eggs can only come from an admin or op. Now all players including myself have either been stripped of, or forced to give up, our spawn eggs. Unless someone managed to keep it a perfect secret that they have spawn eggs then they're gone.
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: bubblekiller on March 16, 2013, 01:55:03 am
This will not happen if its a donation, that many people seem to be will to pay for
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on March 16, 2013, 01:59:55 am
I quite like this idea.  Have a dog called Jamie <3 or maybe a pig...

http://youtu.be/anoO3K5vOEg?t=21s

Watched all the way to part 9 lol. Aparently there's no part 10 AND IT ENDED WITH A CLIFHANGAR!!! Just like the end of Half Life 2 Episode 2!!!
That's why I don't watch things until they've been completed. :P
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: Wyboth on March 16, 2013, 03:23:18 am
I'd like to note that Optical no longer makes the rules for the server, the Admins do. If they don't want spawn eggs, it will take some convincing for them to change their minds. I would also note that community opinion doesn't sway them easily.
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: Holy_Moses on March 16, 2013, 03:57:56 am
I'd like to note that Optical no longer makes the rules for the server, the Admins do. If they don't want spawn eggs, it will take some convincing for them to change their minds. I would also note that community opinion doesn't sway them easily.
I believe that is the whole point of supporting suggestions like this one.
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: DeeKay on March 16, 2013, 04:05:03 am
Except you can't find them in game. Spawn eggs can only come from an admin or op.
I know that. I meant finding animals in-game, not the actual spawn eggs.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: joshskiizz on March 16, 2013, 04:19:28 am
I have seen this work quite well on another server. I personally wouldn't donate for something I could potentially find in the game, but other people seem to be really like the idea.
Well I think now that there is an update, the majority of us want the eggs so that we can make mobs with names, not just for the mob itself, but maybe just a bit. I personally wouldn't pay for something I can find in-game either.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: OracleHD on March 16, 2013, 11:23:17 am
I think that if the donation was added the items them selves would drop down in price making them less valuable by the moment, It's a good idea but for people waiting to sell the item (If they have got it) would be a bit devastated.
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on March 16, 2013, 03:54:49 pm
I'd like to note that Optical no longer makes the rules for the server, the Admins do. If they don't want spawn eggs, it will take some convincing for them to change their minds. I would also note that community opinion doesn't sway them easily.

I'd like to point out that this is wrong.... Completely. Nothing gets done without Optical.
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: Nick3306 on March 16, 2013, 03:57:38 pm
I'd like to note that Optical no longer makes the rules for the server, the Admins do. If they don't want spawn eggs, it will take some convincing for them to change their minds. I would also note that community opinion doesn't sway them easily.
Your point might make sense but this isn't a rule, it's an addition to the donation systems. If I were to say right now, "spawn egg donations for everyone!" I would still need to bug optical to add them in as I have no control over the donations at all.

But i would definitely not go as far as to say nothing gets done without optical, that statement is pretty much as inaccurate as wyboth's statement.

Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Wyboth on March 16, 2013, 04:03:01 pm
I'd like to note that Optical no longer makes the rules for the server, the Admins do. If they don't want spawn eggs, it will take some convincing for them to change their minds. I would also note that community opinion doesn't sway them easily.
Your point might make sense but this isn't a rule, it's an addition to the donation systems. If I were to say right now, "spawn egg donations for everyone!" I would still need to bug optical to add them in as I have no control over the donations at all.

But i would definitely not go as far as to say nothing gets done without optical, that statement is pretty much as inaccurate as wyboth's statement.


I see where you're coming from. I was only thinking about rules at the time I posted that. Donation rewards would require his intervention.
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on March 16, 2013, 08:26:10 pm
I'd like to note that Optical no longer makes the rules for the server, the Admins do. If they don't want spawn eggs, it will take some convincing for them to change their minds. I would also note that community opinion doesn't sway them easily.
Your point might make sense but this isn't a rule, it's an addition to the donation systems. If I were to say right now, "spawn egg donations for everyone!" I would still need to bug optical to add them in as I have no control over the donations at all.

But i would definitely not go as far as to say nothing gets done without optical, that statement is pretty much as inaccurate as wyboth's statement.




What I meant is that even after you make the call, like you said, you still need Opti. :P
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: jh2018 on March 17, 2013, 04:48:27 pm
People can use them to troll other people, such as death traps, for Creepers, skeletons, zombies, etc.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Holy_Moses on March 17, 2013, 08:14:28 pm
People can use them to troll other people, such as death traps, for Creepers, skeletons, zombies, etc.
Well, if they were smart enough, they wouldn't exactly purchase a creeper spawn egg unless they know what they're doing. Most people are wise enough to start attacking the mob before reading its name :P
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: Chief149 on March 17, 2013, 08:36:35 pm
I'd like to note that Optical no longer makes the rules for the server, the Admins do. If they don't want spawn eggs, it will take some convincing for them to change their minds. I would also note that community opinion doesn't sway them easily.

So... the admins rebellion?

Also to solve the death trap problem simple dont offer enemy mob eggs.
And honestly this would be good for those who truely can't find any animals.

Another HUGE bonus is that there won't be any more issues like before where players get spawn eggs and the admins have to sweep through and force all of the players to give their spawn eggs up since anyone could get them.
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: Nick3306 on March 17, 2013, 08:49:20 pm
I'd like to note that Optical no longer makes the rules for the server, the Admins do. If they don't want spawn eggs, it will take some convincing for them to change their minds. I would also note that community opinion doesn't sway them easily.

So... the admins rebellion?
Yes, we are rebelling against the server we have spent countless hours working on. You nailed it buddy.
Title: Re: Mob eeg donation
Post by: Holy_Moses on March 17, 2013, 08:57:51 pm
I'd like to note that Optical no longer makes the rules for the server, the Admins do. If they don't want spawn eggs, it will take some convincing for them to change their minds. I would also note that community opinion doesn't sway them easily.

So... the admins rebellion?
Yes, we are rebelling against the server we have spent countless hours working on. You nailed it buddy.
Saw this coming. Opti 2013
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Chief149 on March 18, 2013, 02:57:44 am
Lol Nick. I was just kidding haha.

Lol, Opticraft Apocalypse 2013!!! caused by Nick
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: LIEKABOWSE on March 18, 2013, 04:22:39 am
Lol Nick. I was just kidding haha.

Lol, Opticraft Apocalypse 2013!!! caused by Nick
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Chief149 on March 19, 2013, 01:21:18 pm
Lol Nick. I was just kidding haha.

Lol, Opticraft Apocalypse 2013!!! caused by Nick

(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages1.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20130213005641%2Ffallout%2Fimages%2Fd%2Fdd%2FOh-you-93067263235.jpeg&hash=3ddfbab19d1dfb280c0fff917c5bb961)
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Holy_Moses on March 19, 2013, 02:23:21 pm
So uhh, back on topic shall we  ;D? Yea or Nay?
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: ▲▼Dunderheid▼▲ on March 19, 2013, 10:09:21 pm
Yea
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Pugabyte on March 21, 2013, 12:55:18 am
I need some freaking cows bro.

not that i would be allowed to donate, but still.

+ 999999999999999999999999999999999999999
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Megamoltar on April 04, 2013, 08:25:56 am
I think this would be a great way for optical to earn more money for the servers sake. I don't know i he pockets any of it, but he could really be helping out the server in many ways by carrying out with this. Just think about all the players that need animals like my friend above. Just needs some powder behind the bullet if you know what im saying.
~Megamoltar •.•
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Pensfan121 on April 04, 2013, 12:12:21 pm
One thing about this is that if the animals people buy get killed there will be complaining about how they lost their money or something.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Megamoltar on April 05, 2013, 06:31:33 pm
That's why you ensure that no one can get to you mods using a Pstone of any sort.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: DeeKay on April 05, 2013, 06:49:38 pm
That's why you ensure that no one can get to you mods using a Pstone of any sort.
I know right away that not everyone is going to be smart enough to do that.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Megamoltar on April 06, 2013, 05:41:17 am
Off not that's why you te them while donating that a Pstone is suggested.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: DeeKay on April 06, 2013, 05:46:52 am
Off not that's why you te them while donating that a Pstone is suggested.
You're missing the point, you can tell people all you want but in the end, you can't force people to place a protection stone. I just think this suggestion has more cons than pros.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Megamoltar on April 06, 2013, 06:06:15 am
You have a point there but if the person can wait until they can afford one, its now like they cost 1mil
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Holy_Moses on April 06, 2013, 03:09:41 pm
Maybe a "purchase at your own risk" warning is needed. maybe with a disclaimer stating "We are not responsible for death of an unprotected mob, etc" or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: DeeKay on April 06, 2013, 03:18:40 pm
Maybe a "purchase at your own risk" warning is needed. maybe with a disclaimer stating "We are not responsible for death of an unprotected mob, etc" or something along those lines.
There already is a disclaimer for donations stating no refunds, but that doesn't stop some people.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on April 06, 2013, 06:53:57 pm
Maybe a "purchase at your own risk" warning is needed. maybe with a disclaimer stating "We are not responsible for death of an unprotected mob, etc" or something along those lines.
There already is a disclaimer for donations stating no refunds, but that doesn't stop some people.

seriously, this is already there and it doesnt stop idiots asking for refunds... Not that my first post I ever made had annyyything to do with that...
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: gavin1928374655 on April 07, 2013, 03:30:33 am
Is there ever going to be a decision on this? The topic has kind of boiled down into conversation about something different:P
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Sugna on April 07, 2013, 08:08:14 pm
I think the admins are just trying to make them selves un-popular.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: TarynMai on April 07, 2013, 08:15:15 pm
I think the admins are just trying to make them selves un-popular.
Yes, thats obviously it.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on April 07, 2013, 08:17:57 pm
The issue here is that, xXJimB0bXx donates for an egg, he spawns it and someone kills it... now  xXJimB0bXx just wasted real money and we cant just spawn another because  xXJimB0bXx could say he had 20 instead of one cuz he bred them. Seems to me it would cause more issues and complaints than happy people. And yes adding that flag to PS would make the problem less of an issue, but you cant expect people to know every little detail.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: LIEKABOWSE on April 08, 2013, 12:05:45 am
The issue here is that, xXJimB0bXx donates for an egg, he spawns it and someone kills it... now  xXJimB0bXx just wasted real money and we cant just spawn another because  xXJimB0bXx could say he had 20 instead of one cuz he bred them. Seems to me it would cause more issues and complaints than happy people. And yes adding that flag to PS would make the problem less of an issue, but you cant expect people to know every little detail.
Technically, it would be xXJimB0bXx's fault because he chose to not protect his animals.




Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: addah on April 08, 2013, 12:27:42 am
I think it's a good idea but has a lot of issues with it also. I would donate to get eggs for villagers. But also there are dumb people out there who would try to get a refund like 2crzy4uall said.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: LIEKABOWSE on April 08, 2013, 01:01:39 am
I think it's a good idea but has a lot of issues with it also. I would donate to get eggs for villagers. But also there are dumb people out there who would try to get a refund like 2crzy4uall said.
Coal PS and fences= no complaints.
As I stated, it's really the player's fault for choosing not to protect their animals.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: addah on April 08, 2013, 01:04:45 am
Yeah I know but most people wont think of that really. Then they will be dumb enough to get a mod and complain. I know it's the players fault but the mods can't do anything about it. so there will be complaints no matter what.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: DeeKay on April 08, 2013, 01:45:58 am
I think it's a good idea but has a lot of issues with it also. I would donate to get eggs for villagers. But also there are dumb people out there who would try to get a refund like 2crzy4uall said.
Coal PS and fences= no complaints.
As I stated, it's really the player's fault for choosing not to protect their animals.
Dude, you're missing the point too.. It doesn't matter if it's xXJimB0bXx's fault or not, he as well as others will probably still complain to a staff member, no matter how many disclaimers you throw at them.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Nick3306 on April 08, 2013, 03:52:19 pm
I think the admins are just trying to make them selves un-popular.
Or it could be the fact that optical has to make all donation decisions, we cannot do anything regarding donations. Maybe think before you post next time, it helps, trust me.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Sugna on April 08, 2013, 08:39:34 pm
I think the admins are just trying to make them selves un-popular.
Or it could be the fact that optical has to make all donation decisions, we cannot do anything regarding donations. Maybe think before you post next time, it helps, trust me.

This was a joke guys lol
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Megamoltar on April 09, 2013, 02:54:41 am
Well maybe you should bump up the price by $2 and give them a coal pstone and upon purchase have a statement saying something like so: "you are about to purchase an item that requires protection so your mobs may continue thier lives, coal pstone included."
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Sugna on April 09, 2013, 06:28:26 am
Well maybe you should bump up the price by $2 and give them a coal pstone and upon purchase have a statement saying something like so: "you are about to purchase an item that requires protection so your mobs may continue thier lives, coal pstone included."

+1
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: DeeKay on April 09, 2013, 06:48:07 am
Well maybe you should bump up the price by $2 and give them a coal pstone and upon purchase have a statement saying something like so: "you are about to purchase an item that requires protection so your mobs may continue thier lives, coal pstone included."
-1

Still not 100% bulletproof.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Sugna on April 09, 2013, 01:42:32 pm
Well maybe you should bump up the price by $2 and give them a coal pstone and upon purchase have a statement saying something like so: "you are about to purchase an item that requires protection so your mobs may continue thier lives, coal pstone included."
-1

Still not 100% bulletproof.

Still... +333
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Megamoltar on April 10, 2013, 01:18:16 am
Does that still not help the least if anything? Not all the donations are perfect, I mean if you can show me that they are all perfect I'll drop my case.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: DeeKay on April 10, 2013, 04:13:31 am
Does that still not help the least if anything? Not all the donations are perfect, I mean if you can show me that they are all perfect I'll drop my case.
I'm not going to go through all of them, but none of the current donation rewards are items, so none of them can be affected by other players on the server. But the spawn eggs can.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Megamoltar on April 10, 2013, 03:42:13 pm
I'm not going to go through all of them, but none of the current donation rewards are items, so none of them can be affected by other players on the server. But the spawn eggs can.
😐 wouldn't say that they can't be affected by other players, they are just less likely to be affected.
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: andersad on April 13, 2013, 08:12:38 pm
Does that still not help the least if anything? Not all the donations are perfect, I mean if you can show me that they are all perfect I'll drop my case.
       I'd have to agree with this case, You can't make it exactly "100% bulletproof", I don't think ANY donations are "100% bulletproof". Just my opinion tho
Title: Re: Mob egg donation
Post by: Chief149 on April 13, 2013, 08:51:49 pm
Does that still not help the least if anything? Not all the donations are perfect, I mean if you can show me that they are all perfect I'll drop my case.
I'm not going to go through all of them, but none of the current donation rewards are items, so none of them can be affected by other players on the server. But the spawn eggs can.

I have to agree with xDeeKay on this one. At first I liked this idea, but when you throw in the factor of players losing their animals and begging for their money back, it just takes away from this idea. This is probably one for the archives.

Honestly, when someone is legitimately in an area where a certain animal truely is impossible to get, some of the OPs may be willing to spawn you two starter animals. I'm not saying beg the OPs for animals, but when I was new here, I built an island out in the middle of the old guest world ocean. To get animals I would have had to lure them with wheat... 1000 blocks or more... in a boat... over the water. On land would be one thing, but bringing animals 1000 blocks accross the ocean just wasn't practical. One of the OPs (not sure if I should mention names or not) was willing to spawn me 2 cows (at the cost of trolling me a little bit lol) to start off with.

The only thing this idea would prevent would be the issue with the spawn eggs where the admins came and took everyone's spawn eggs because everyone was selling them as a rare item for buttloads of money. It will probably happen again in the future as I wouldn't be surprised if an op or admin has ever given out a couple spawn eggs which are now unintentionally in some player's inventory. Not accusing anyone, but in the far off future the same incident will probably come up again. This suggestion, if implemented, would probably fix that issue.