Opticraft Community
Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: davioo on January 23, 2013, 01:57:43 am
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I suggest we add a new rank called Wizard for 2 year+ members. Wizards would have access to kick, fly and tp commands.
Pros :
Not hard to code.
Could become handy when no mods/ops/admins are on.
Would be a cool reward for our years of work and support.
Cons :
??
REQUIREMENTS :
Must have been on opticraft for over 2 years.
Must have been a staff member in the past.
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So you want to be a mod without the responsibility of helping people out?
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So you want to be a mod without the responsibility of helping people out?
If I wanted to be a mod I would've asked for ban commands, rollback commands, and let alone the other commands mods have that this rank wouldn't.
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SMP has not been on for two years. What justice do you provide for this rank? This is just a luxury rank. Kick would be easily abused, players would troll around and annoy other players etc; flying would be abused, players would fly up to collect glow stone for example or to travel faster; TP, I don't see much wrong except for if a player doesn't want another, one might use this. It's a really unnecessary rank. Why do you suggest it?
And the "must have been a staff member in the past" doesn't help...
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Well with the changes, it's like every other "Veteran" rank that people have suggested. also the commands for Logblock and such are all the workhorse commands, so my point still stands, it's simply all the "fun" aspects of being a mod.
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SMP has not been on for two years. What justice do you provide for this rank? This is just a luxury rank. Kick would be easily abused, players would troll around and annoy other players etc; flying would be abused, players would fly up to collect glow stone for example or to travel faster; TP, I don't see much wrong except for if a player doesn't want another, one might use this. It's a really unnecessary rank. Why do you suggest it?
1. When I said 2 years I was talking about being on Opticraft over all for 2 years, not only on smp.
2. Kick wouldnt be abused, since the people with this rank would've already been staff members and they would've already shown their abilities to moderate the server.
3. Same thing applies for glowstone.
4. Players could chose to /accept or /deny the TPs.
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All I can say is what has already been said. Several other topic similar to this have been made and shot down. So even though this may seem like a nice thing to have. I am guessing it will be shot down again.
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Well with the changes, it's like every other "Veteran" rank that people have suggested. also the commands for Logblock and such are all the workhorse commands, so my point still stands, it's simply all the "fun" aspects of being a mod.
Isn't minecraft all about having fun?
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Probably a tad too much power for a non-staff rank. I would suggest taking off fly, and maybe even teleport. However, the kick would be useful for troublemakers in chat when no staff members are on.
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1. When I said 2 years I was talking about being on Opticraft over all for 2 years, not only on smp.
2. Kick wouldnt be abused, since the people with this rank would've already been staff members and they would've already shown their abilities to moderate the server.
3. Same thing applies for glowstone.
4. Players could chose to /accept or /deny the TPs.
How one acts on classic may be similar to SMP, but they're still different servers.
They may be on here two whole years, but what makes it a positive contribution?
Kick would still be abused... staff members have always showed how absolutely mature they can become.
Ahh, yea the TPA would be a cool addition, just not TP.
Probably a tad too much power for a non-staff rank. I would suggest taking off fly, and maybe even teleport. However, the kick would be useful for troublemakers in chat when no staff members are on.
I think only personally trusted players on behalf of Admins should be able to have access to this.
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1. When I said 2 years I was talking about being on Opticraft over all for 2 years, not only on smp.
2. Kick wouldnt be abused, since the people with this rank would've already been staff members and they would've already shown their abilities to moderate the server.
3. Same thing applies for glowstone.
4. Players could chose to /accept or /deny the TPs.
How one acts on classic may be similar to SMP, but they're still different servers.
They may be on here two whole years, but what makes it a positive contribution?
Kick would still be abused... staff members have always showed how absolutely mature they can become.
Ahh, yea the TPA would be a cool addition, just not TP.
Probably a tad too much power for a non-staff rank. I would suggest taking off fly, and maybe even teleport. However, the kick would be useful for troublemakers in chat when no staff members are on.
I think only personally trusted players on behalf of Admins should be able to have access to this.
The 2 year+ thing is a requirement, not a condition. But I do agree, players who receive the rank should be hand-picked by admins.
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So your saying that this will be VERY hard to earn? Now what's the chance one of these players will be on when a mod isn't, AND someone needs to be kicked? And since they don't have rollback they will only help with spammers/advertisers/rude word sayers, so why do they need TPA and fly? Also how many former mods that have been on for more than 2 years? the awnser (im assuming) is none. It might seem like a good idea first, but think about it a little more and you'll find plenty cons.
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As we have said in the past we are not going to add a new rank until we feel the need to add a new rank.
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Also how many former mods that have been on for more than 2 years? the awnser (im assuming) is none. It might seem like a good idea first, but think about it a little more and you'll find plenty cons.
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You should get your facts right before you post sir.
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As we have said in the past we are not going to add a new rank until we feel the need to add a new rank.
When could that be?
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Ok seeing as there are just going to be argument over yes this is a good idea and no it is a bad one nick has said this is not going to happen as of now. Now he did say if they felt a new rank was needed they would make one. But as of now a new rank is not needed.
To prevent arguments I'm locking this unless another staff member thinks it should be left open.
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It's not a matter of When-- it's a matter of If.
The rank suggestions thus far have been a matter of finding an excuse for Mini-modding and bragging rights. As I have said plenty of times before, we don't have a strict rule against mini-modding, but it is appreciated if people didn't go overboard with it. There comes a point where too much can be unhealthy, and the rank suggestions thus far have attempted to cross that line.
We have also said many times in the past that we do not encourage players rubbing their ranks in other people's faces-- that creates unnecessary drama for us to clean up after.
There's a fine line between picking the right perks for a rank and overpowering a rank, and, sadly, the perks that others have chosen, in previous suggestions, haven't been selected wisely.
We're okay with people helping out other players as is, but when you introduce a rank such as this, it can become unnecessarily messy, and that isn't particularly convenient for the staff members, themselves, to clean up after a messy outburst. This is why we ask all of you to think about what should go into a rank, because, as previously mentioned, there is a fine line between balancing all ranks across the board and overpowering a specific rank.
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As we have said in the past we are not going to add a new rank until we feel the need to add a new rank.
When could that be?
Davioo, i am going to be honest with you. We will most likely never feel the need to add a rank like this because it doesnt give us anything we need. You know that only you and maybe 1 other person would qualify for this rank and that is why you want it to be created.
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this rank clearly gives people powers of a mod, but no responsibilities of a mod
thats why it shouldnt be created.
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better rank would be donater...
$10 donator
$20 donator +
$30 donator ++
$40 Super Donator :)
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better rank would be donater...
$10 donator
$20 donator +
$30 donator ++
$40 Super Donator :)
we discussed this when we were building the 1.0 server but decided to not go with ranks and instead go with what we have now.
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The only thing I could ever see needing a new rank for would be if (n its a really big if) there was ever an intention of adding something like a creative rank and to get it you would have to either work ur ass off or make a considerable donation to the server....
Of course that would be after managing to state a good enough case for its existence on a survival server in the first place.... And good luck with that.....
I can haz unlimited bloks nao plz?
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As we have said in the past we are not going to add a new rank until we feel the need to add a new rank.
When could that be?
Davioo, i am going to be honest with you. We will most likely never feel the need to add a rank like this because it doesnt give us anything we need. You know that only you and maybe 1 other person would qualify for this rank and that is why you want it to be created.
Honesty is the best policy Nick. I appreciate your feedback and I fully understand your answer.
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this rank clearly gives people powers of a mod, but no responsibilities of a mod
thats why it shouldnt be created.
Not entirely, no ban, no /kits, no logblock, no access to the smp staff forums which is important, and no optihelp. This is more of a bragging/trolling rank in my eyes.
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I agree with Mr_Mr_Mr This rank If implemeted would just be for bragging.
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Honestly, this suggestion sounds like a joke to me.
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Alright the point was made. No need to rub it in more. Locked.