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Title: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: Holy_Moses on May 22, 2013, 01:08:04 pm
Since Microsoft unveiled the next-gen Xbox console yesterday, there has been ALOT of controversy started. Some people are disappointed in the name choice, others dislike the exterior, some love the specs, some believe it may not be able to handle the crazy games to come out.

What did you think of the XBOX ONE or PS4?
What did you think of the unveiling in general?
Did you play the drinking game?
E3?

I personally, like it alot, not the biggest fan on how much they pushed on the apps as if they are the games. I am curious to see what the new exclusives are, and I shit my pants when the Forza 5 teaser was shown. The TV functionality app is cool, I'm still curious to see how it'll work. Anyways, I probably wont make any final decisions on which system I will get til Sony unveils the PS4 (I'm still a hardcore PS Fan :P)
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: DeeKay on May 22, 2013, 01:28:44 pm
I'm gonna be honest, I stopped keeping myself up to date with consoles since I got a PC. I didn't even know there was a new Playstation system or Xbox being released until I saw the videos on YouTube.. via my PC nonetheless.

Even back in the day of playing both PS3 and Xbox (in no particular order) I was never the one who argued about which one was better, or about how good/bad the specs were for either. So now looking at the new Xbox, whether people think the unveiling/name/specs are good/bad, I just see it as a new console that's going to be bought be millions of people either way.

Congrats on them for releasing a new console, I hope it's worth the hype and that Xbox fans enjoy it =)
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: lordyokel on May 22, 2013, 02:01:49 pm
I like everything about it. My only problem is the controller, I dont really like how it looks.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Tobs on May 22, 2013, 02:39:35 pm
I like everything about it. My only problem is the controller, I dont really like how it looks.
I don't really see any problem with it... It looks like any other Xbox controller, just a bit easier to handle and more modern-looking. Can't really see what it's like untill I actually hold a controller.

(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs.pro-gmedia.com%2Fvideogamer%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2Fpub%2F605x%2Fxbox_one_controller.jpg&hash=d38fefa951c99fb597b469593b3d7f93)(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.zavvi.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F08%2FXbox-360-Wireless-Controller-Black-B000OYITQO-L.jpg&hash=449189e144d5ab4ab3a4a32c38688cb4)

The main thing I hate is the fact that 360 games won't be able to be played on the ONE. I much prefer PCs for games, I only really buy Xbox games if I want to play them with friends (or console only games) - PC games are still able to be played for years, I still play Theme Hospital and that was released in 1997. But whatever, will probably buy a new Xbox once the price has lowered a bit. Untill I've used it, I will not really have much of an opinion.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: DJAlphaWolf on May 22, 2013, 04:20:48 pm
I agree with tobs on the lack of being able to play 360 games. I don't want to purchase some extra hardware drive to play them either.

I saw the reveal yesterday and although there were some new things about it, it isn't that much different from the current update on the 360 console.Half of the "new" features for the kinect were already possible. The difference was that the speed and flow of the One console is supposed to be quick and swift("Zero lag" "switching between apps" "simultaneous app running"). The speed and flow is definitely something I like forward to.

I don't know what to think about the new console. I guess I'll just have to wait and see the E3's in depth reviews on the console.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Nick3306 on May 22, 2013, 04:33:56 pm
Was very disappointing imo. Not only are they going to charge you in order to play used games, you need to be connected to the internet at least once every 24 hours in order to play. They also bragged about these "15 exclusives" but didn't give any names at all aside from the ones they showed during the reveal (like forza). Sounds like bs to me.

So far the ps4 looks way better imo, but then again, these are just the launch conferences and dont really give all the info on how the consoles themselves will be.

On a side note, you still have to pay for live, so it is an automatic not buy for me.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Tobs on May 22, 2013, 04:47:22 pm
They also bragged about these "15 exclusives" but didn't give any names at all aside from the ones they showed during the reveal (like forza). Sounds like bs to me.

They said there would be more about the games at E3, but I doubt every game will be shown there.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Nick3306 on May 22, 2013, 05:21:08 pm
They also bragged about these "15 exclusives" but didn't give any names at all aside from the ones they showed during the reveal (like forza). Sounds like bs to me.

They said there would be more about the games at E3, but I doubt every game will be shown there.
Would be very impressive though. Still going to buy the ps4 regardless (if i have the money that is)
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on May 23, 2013, 12:07:23 am
I don't like the name and the design is plain and boring.  And it is basically a futuristic DVD/VCR.  I also don't like that you have to pay a small fee to play a used game, which adds controversy to Gamestop.  Also, there was fake applause at the press conference, there was a group in the back clapping to make it seem like the press were doing it.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Tobs on May 23, 2013, 03:56:35 pm
I found this amusing... accurate though.

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Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Sugna on May 23, 2013, 04:07:40 pm
I found this amusing... accurate though.

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I saw that as well.

Tv, Tv, XBox, Tv, Television, Tv, Sport, Sports, EA sports, sport, Tv, tv, tv.
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Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: LIEKABOWSE on May 29, 2013, 10:39:55 pm
as wooden said, in one word:
Television!
It's gonna be such bullshit. it wont even function without Kinect, It's not backwards compatible (being able to play previous games) and it sure as hell can watch TV. The reveal basically went like this
"Xbox one is going to be able to watch realtime TV. Imagine it, TV. TV, TV. Want to watch TV? Get the Xbox one. TV? Xbox one."
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.edge-online.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fedgeonline%2F2013%2F05%2FXbox-One-console-21.jpg&hash=12f6781289fe293d25e624d2725d25c2)
Oh wait, that's an Xbox One?
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.csus.edu%2Fhousing%2Fdepartments%2Ftechnology-services%2Ftelevision-image.jpg&hash=f276671f3556c268aa29018c6fbff773)
Nope! That's the true Xbox One.

Not only are they going to charge you in order to play used games

Microsoft confirmed that false, btw.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: cattfish0612 on May 29, 2013, 10:55:49 pm
I like everything about it. My only problem is the controller, I dont really like how it looks.
I don't really see any problem with it... It looks like any other Xbox controller, just a bit easier to handle and more modern-looking. Can't really see what it's like untill I actually hold a controller.

(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs.pro-gmedia.com%2Fvideogamer%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2Fpub%2F605x%2Fxbox_one_controller.jpg&hash=d38fefa951c99fb597b469593b3d7f93)(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.zavvi.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F08%2FXbox-360-Wireless-Controller-Black-B000OYITQO-L.jpg&hash=449189e144d5ab4ab3a4a32c38688cb4)

The main thing I hate is the fact that 360 games won't be able to be played on the ONE. I much prefer PCs for games, I only really buy Xbox games if I want to play them with friends (or console only games) - PC games are still able to be played for years, I still play Theme Hospital and that was released in 1997. But whatever, will probably buy a new Xbox once the price has lowered a bit. Untill I've used it, I will not really have much of an opinion.


Quick question where the on button on that controller XD or does it just go on when you say "Xbox on" if so I find that very well designed
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Tobs on May 29, 2013, 11:12:12 pm
Quick question where the on button on that controller XD or does it just go on when you say "Xbox on" if so I find that very well designed

Judging by other controllers...


(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjEcyeeB.png&hash=9613cb51f7253236793628ded96f8799)(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.zavvi.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F08%2FXbox-360-Wireless-Controller-Black-B000OYITQO-L.jpg&hash=449189e144d5ab4ab3a4a32c38688cb4)

And saying xbox on would turn just the Xbox console on I think, but I may be wrong.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Chief149 on May 30, 2013, 02:10:20 am
Was very disappointing imo. Not only are they going to charge you in order to play used games, you need to be connected to the internet at least once every 24 hours in order to play. They also bragged about these "15 exclusives" but didn't give any names at all aside from the ones they showed during the reveal (like forza). Sounds like bs to me.

So far the ps4 looks way better imo, but then again, these are just the launch conferences and dont really give all the info on how the consoles themselves will be.

On a side note, you still have to pay for live, so it is an automatic not buy for me.

Finally, someone points out the much needed to be pointed out points...

Yep. You can't do what you did in the "old days" and call up a bro and be like, "Hey dude, can I borrow your copy of Halo 4 for a couple days."
Now you can do that, but the XBox One dlc will be like, "nope," and charge you the full price of the game.

And yeah, having to be connected once every 24 hours is bullshit.


Now we move on to the PS4 with its hardware specs that couldn't even rival a three year old gaming PC.

The next generation of consoles are not only a shitty and an utter failure, but neither companies even give a damn about what their users want. Users do not want to have to always be on the internet, users want backwards compatibility, we want good hardware, and none of that DLC bullshit that charges us to play used games (I mean cmon, now no more used game market :/). Microsoft, listening to user feedback... since never.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Nick3306 on May 30, 2013, 03:21:46 am
Was very disappointing imo. Not only are they going to charge you in order to play used games, you need to be connected to the internet at least once every 24 hours in order to play. They also bragged about these "15 exclusives" but didn't give any names at all aside from the ones they showed during the reveal (like forza). Sounds like bs to me.

So far the ps4 looks way better imo, but then again, these are just the launch conferences and dont really give all the info on how the consoles themselves will be.

On a side note, you still have to pay for live, so it is an automatic not buy for me.

Finally, someone points out the much needed to be pointed out points...

Yep. You can't do what you did in the "old days" and call up a bro and be like, "Hey dude, can I borrow your copy of Halo 4 for a couple days."
Now you can do that, but the XBox One dlc will be like, "nope," and charge you the full price of the game.

And yeah, having to be connected once every 24 hours is bullshit.


Now we move on to the PS4 with its hardware specs that couldn't even rival a three year old gaming PC.

The next generation of consoles are not only a shitty and an utter failure, but neither companies even give a damn about what their users want. Users do not want to have to always be on the internet, users want backwards compatibility, we want good hardware, and none of that DLC bullshit that charges us to play used games (I mean cmon, now no more used game market :/). Microsoft, listening to user feedback... since never.
The specs are not as important as a gaming pc. Optimization is a powerful tool my friend, both consoles will be able to output amazing graphics mostly because companies can optimize their games a hell of a lot more than pc devs can.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Chief149 on May 30, 2013, 03:26:23 am
Well yeah. Console games are built only for a single set of hardware so the games are naturally more efficient.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Supah_ on May 30, 2013, 06:39:43 pm
To be honest, with the specs that some developers are showing and Xbox chosing C.O.D Ghost has disapointed me as far of the specs and choice of game for launch title. Games like Thief and Watch Dogs should've been in the spotlight. I am severely disapointed at the moment of the name, the bulkier controller and Microsoft for even daring to give us a crap opening. But, with all this next gen graphics, they better put hell of a show at E3 because Sony are looking rather tempting at the moment with their Killzone. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: CazualxGrenade on June 01, 2013, 05:43:21 am
as wooden said, in one word:
Television!
It's gonna be such bullshit. it wont even function without Kinect, It's not backwards compatible (being able to play previous games) and it sure as hell can watch TV. The reveal basically went like this
"Xbox one is going to be able to watch realtime TV. Imagine it, TV. TV, TV. Want to watch TV? Get the Xbox one. TV? Xbox one."
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.edge-online.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fedgeonline%2F2013%2F05%2FXbox-One-console-21.jpg&hash=12f6781289fe293d25e624d2725d25c2)
Oh wait, that's an Xbox One?
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.csus.edu%2Fhousing%2Fdepartments%2Ftechnology-services%2Ftelevision-image.jpg&hash=f276671f3556c268aa29018c6fbff773)
Nope! That's the true Xbox One.

Not only are they going to charge you in order to play used games

Microsoft confirmed that false, btw.
Yo dawg, I heard the Xbox One has T.v. on it, so I bought the xbox one so you can watch T.V. while you watch t.v.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Nick3306 on June 01, 2013, 03:27:01 pm
Not only are they going to charge you in order to play used games

Microsoft confirmed that false, btw.
No they didn't. They confirmed it to be true with an interview a day or 2 after the release announcement. WHen a game gets tied to your account and someone else tries top play it on their account they will not be able to unless they pay a fee. Now people are speculating that places like gamestop will be able to remove games from peoples accounts when they trade them in so if that were the case you could buy a used game from somewhere like gamestop and be able to play it. But that is just speculation. They have confirmed the used game charge for now.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Holy_Moses on June 02, 2013, 12:02:38 am
To be honest, with the specs that some developers are showing and Xbox chosing C.O.D Ghost has disapointed me as far of the specs and choice of game for launch title. Games like Thief and Watch Dogs should've been in the spotlight. I am severely disapointed at the moment of the name, the bulkier controller and Microsoft for even daring to give us a crap opening. But, with all this next gen graphics, they better put hell of a show at E3 because Sony are looking rather tempting at the moment with their Killzone. Time will tell.
Well I'm sure Microsoft chose CoD to "showoff" the capabilities of the game and the system because of the contract/agreement between them and Activision. Also, because CoD has such a ridiculous fanbase that it'd attract more viewers/gamers towards the Xbox.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Chief149 on June 02, 2013, 01:02:47 am
Then there's the part where the XBox One is a piece of shit.
8-core "Microsoft Custom" CPU. No CPU specs were given (no frequency, transistor counts, etc.)
DDR3 RAM (8gB).
x86 architecture... wtf, we are so past 32-bit.
Online connectivity required, also bullshit.



Not looking forward to the PS4 either.


Guys, the next generation of consoles officially sucks. Time to switch to the PC.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Supah_ on June 02, 2013, 11:22:53 am
Not only are they going to charge you in order to play used games

Microsoft confirmed that false, btw.
No they didn't. They confirmed it to be true with an interview a day or 2 after the release announcement. WHen a game gets tied to your account and someone else tries top play it on their account they will not be able to unless they pay a fee. Now people are speculating that places like gamestop will be able to remove games from peoples accounts when they trade them in so if that were the case you could buy a used game from somewhere like gamestop and be able to play it. But that is just speculation. They have confirmed the used game charge for now.

Because of that very notion I will not be buying the xbox one
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: SalsaInABowl on June 03, 2013, 11:37:23 pm
I never was interested in the next Xbox since I am trying to get a gaming pc and have been since I was like 11 or12, but seriously. I went from "Sounds cool, but nah." to "Fuck that bullshit."

It is everything you could possibly go wrong with a console.

Fee to play used games, no backwards compatibility, more apps nobody wants in a gaming console, horrible game choice...I'm sorry but the list could go on about how wrong the Xbox One is.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Tobs on June 11, 2013, 01:00:44 pm
I love what sony did at E3. They cleared up some questions about the PS4 and slapped Microsoft around the face ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: raul7legend on June 11, 2013, 01:06:26 pm
I love what sony did at E3. They cleared up some questions about the PS4 and slapped Microsoft around the face ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
Yeah, I've been a loyal Xbox fan but I guess that I'm moving to PS4.
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on June 11, 2013, 03:58:52 pm
I love what sony did at E3. They cleared up some questions about the PS4 and slapped Microsoft around the face ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
Yeah, I've been a loyal Xbox fan but I guess that I'm moving to PS4.
Same :)
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: ViperZeroOne on June 11, 2013, 05:07:57 pm
Well, I've been an avid console gamer for a long time now.  Started way back!  When the main-stream consoles came around I was big into the first XBox and had a ton of games.  When I got my 360 I added a few games to my list.  I also got a PS2 and a Wii around that time as well...

I have to be honest.  My PS2 and Wii basically have gathered dust pretty much since I got them, and my 360 is pretty much a media center.  I use it to stream video and audio to my TV/Stereo almost every day whereas I actually play a game on it maybe once every 3 months.  Don't get me wrong, I'm a hardcore gamer!  Consoles have just lost their appeal.  How many of you 360 owners are wondering if your XBox Live is going to end up like the old XBox's Live?  Basically when the 360 came out the old XBox's online experience vanished.  Microsoft doesn't care about old technology.  Look at XP, which is still the 2nd most widely used O/S in the world.  They no longer support it!

I'm not even hyped up about the "XBox One" or really any other console, because most of the same gaming can be done easily on PC with better quality and control.  Can anyone say, mod communities?  Yea, you won't find those on consoles.  It's been proven time and time again that PC gaming is where it's at.  You have more options to connect with your friends and you don't have to go through some big company that thinks they have you by the balls.

In short, will I be getting;

XBox One = NO
Playstation 4 = NO
Nintendo ___ = NO
Title: Re: Xbox One First Impressions
Post by: Holy_Moses on June 11, 2013, 05:12:47 pm
I love what sony did at E3. They cleared up some questions about the PS4 and slapped Microsoft around the face ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
Yeah, I've been a loyal Xbox fan but I guess that I'm moving to PS4.
Ditto
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on June 11, 2013, 05:37:24 pm
I hope Bethesda reveals Fallout 4 <3
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on June 11, 2013, 08:34:16 pm
I'm more into the games that are coming out than the consoles.
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: TheRealFamous on June 11, 2013, 09:32:55 pm
For me, Microsoft just went down hill into deep shit. It was very disappointing. Good thing I got a gaming PC instead.
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: Nick3306 on June 11, 2013, 09:37:28 pm
I preordered a ps4
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: davioo on June 11, 2013, 09:51:24 pm
I preordered a ps4

$399 model or $499 model?
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: Nick3306 on June 11, 2013, 09:53:44 pm
I preordered a ps4

$399 model or $499 model?
There is no $500 model yet. The only one you can pre order is the $399 one.
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: davioo on June 11, 2013, 09:57:56 pm
I preordered a ps4

$399 model or $499 model?
There is no $500 model yet. The only one you can pre order is the $399 one.

Oh, cause I heard that with the $399 one you can't play online. If you want that you need to pay for the $499 version. I guess I was lied to lol.
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: Holy_Moses on June 11, 2013, 10:47:07 pm
I preordered a ps4

$399 model or $499 model?
There is no $500 model yet. The only one you can pre order is the $399 one.

Oh, cause I heard that with the $399 one you can't play online. If you want that you need to pay for the $499 version. I guess I was lied to lol.
Yup, regardless PS+ is needed to play multiplayer
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: SalsaInABowl on June 11, 2013, 11:04:45 pm
Xbox - Absolute, complete and 9001% bullshit

PS4 - Eh, slightly ruined but not like I cared for either of these two since I plan to start PC gaming like I have tried for the past two years.
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: Nick3306 on June 12, 2013, 12:26:13 am
I preordered a ps4

$399 model or $499 model?
There is no $500 model yet. The only one you can pre order is the $399 one.
That has not been confirmed yet, it was worded very strangely during the conference and was really talked about.

Oh, cause I heard that with the $399 one you can't play online. If you want that you need to pay for the $499 version. I guess I was lied to lol.
Yup, regardless PS+ is needed to play multiplayer
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: DJAlphaWolf on June 20, 2013, 01:27:31 am
Some good news. Microsoft changed some of its policies for the xbox one today.

Here's the story (blog link in the article):
http://www.webpronews.com/the-xbox-one-will-be-ditching-its-drm-rumor-2013-06 (http://www.webpronews.com/the-xbox-one-will-be-ditching-its-drm-rumor-2013-06)
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on June 20, 2013, 02:30:51 am
Some good news. Microsoft changed some of its policies for the xbox one today.

Here's the story (blog link in the article):
http://www.webpronews.com/the-xbox-one-will-be-ditching-its-drm-rumor-2013-06 (http://www.webpronews.com/the-xbox-one-will-be-ditching-its-drm-rumor-2013-06)
Don't know why they thought what they did in the first place was fine.  But yea I saw the news on Facebook :)
Title: Re: Xbox One & PS4 First Impressions, E3 Info, etc.
Post by: SalsaInABowl on June 22, 2013, 03:08:37 am
Some good news. Microsoft changed some of its policies for the xbox one today.

Here's the story (blog link in the article):
http://www.webpronews.com/the-xbox-one-will-be-ditching-its-drm-rumor-2013-06 (http://www.webpronews.com/the-xbox-one-will-be-ditching-its-drm-rumor-2013-06)

Great! Now fix all the other stupid shit and I'll be willing to buy one.