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Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: Chipaton on July 20, 2012, 10:23:55 pm

Title: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Chipaton on July 20, 2012, 10:23:55 pm
I would like to propose the idea of a new rank, Senior Trusted. This rank would be the same as trusted, except they can place fire and lava. Lava could be placed using buckets, and fire with flint and steel, or fire charges. The rank would be hand chosen by Admins, no application. If you would like to change anything about this, please do, this is just an idea.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: TarynMai on July 20, 2012, 10:25:05 pm
Reminds me of the old days when only admins could promote trusted people. lol
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: iGenerator on July 20, 2012, 10:36:40 pm
Why... if youve been on for a while people will know you
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: SalasCraft on July 20, 2012, 10:40:35 pm
We even had operators abuse lava (RIGHT ALICIA!?) , why would we let normal players have access to it?



btw alicia im kidding :3
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: TarynMai on July 20, 2012, 10:45:08 pm
Ass.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Chipaton on July 20, 2012, 11:12:53 pm
We even had operators abuse lava (RIGHT ALICIA!?) , why would we let normal players have access to it?



btw alicia im kidding :3
It wouldnt be normal players at all. I mean players who could be mod, but dont want to become one.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: joshskiizz on July 20, 2012, 11:34:43 pm
We even had operators abuse lava (RIGHT ALICIA!?) , why would we let normal players have access to it?



btw alicia im kidding :3

lolol.

Why... if youve been on for a while people will know you

I agree.

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This is a nice idea, but I don't think this is necessary. Lava & Fire are not demanded as frequently as water is. If you've been on long enough, people will know you're a senior player. I could only imagine Lava and Fire being used for decorative purposes or as a trash can. Even as a trash can, cactus is a better means for a disposal. Again, nice idea not really needed.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: NatanylJames (N8MATTHEWS) on July 21, 2012, 01:22:41 am
We even had operators abuse lava (RIGHT ALICIA!?)

I understand how alicia is with lava.....

It wouldnt be normal players at all. I mean players who could be mod, but dont want to become one.

Technically arn't we all normal players? No one is better than another. Some just have extra abilities or "power". Just because we have extra power doen't mean we're "better".

But anyway. I think that giving the power of lava placement isn't nessesary, as its not asked for that offen. But i would like to have the ability to use flit and steel so i could light my own portal
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: char199 on July 21, 2012, 05:27:32 am
Another ability for a Senior trusted (or the only additional ability over trusted) could be access to water blocks. It could work similar to Classic where you use a /water command. I've had many creations where this would come in handy so that I wouldn't have to bother a Mod or Op.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: hennydeez on July 21, 2012, 06:00:06 am
We even had operators abuse lava (RIGHT ALICIA!?) , why would we let normal players have access to it?



btw alicia im kidding :3
It wouldnt be normal players at all. I mean players who could be mod, but dont want to become one.
I believe there is no need to implement this new rank, we already have enough Moderators as is and don't want it to be replaced by people with that rank. It basically just makes Moderators seem kind of useless except they could teleport and roll back grief and most Trusted players would seem to expect this rank, having them inherit these abilities is pretty stupid, it's just like Admins trialing an application all over again, but decided in game.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Chipaton on July 21, 2012, 06:06:31 am
I get what you mean, but no hurt in putting out a suggestion!
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: DeeKay on July 21, 2012, 06:20:49 am
Then soon people will want a Super Operator, and a Super Admin. Sounds super!
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: hennydeez on July 21, 2012, 07:18:28 am
I get what you mean, but no hurt in putting out a suggestion!
We don't want to make it some lost server, keep the ranks slim and sleek. ;)
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: <>LavaEvan<> on July 24, 2012, 11:17:19 am
I agree with chip. Sometimes mods have a lot of stuff to do and they do not want to be bothered with Fire, Lava, and Water. These people, could get /helpop tickets that are in regards to fire, lava, and water. Plus these people can use /tpa so they can help the people just by sending teleport requests! The titles can look something like this
1. Evank2911
2.Evank2911
3 Sr. Trusted <Evank2911>
4.Jr.Moderator Evank2911
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: hennydeez on July 24, 2012, 11:30:23 am
I agree with chip. Sometimes mods have a lot of stuff to do and they do not want to be bothered with Fire, Lava, and Water. These people, could get /helpop tickets that are in regards to fire, lava, and water. Plus these people can use /tpa so they can help the people just by sending teleport requests! The titles can look something like this
1. Evank2911
2.Evank2911
3 Sr. Trusted <Evank2911>
4.Jr.Moderator Evank2911
Wow my eyes are burning. Again this isn't needed, it is why we have Moderators.
I agree with chip. Sometimes mods have a lot of stuff to do and they do not want to be bothered with Fire, Lava, and Water.
They shouldn't really, as a moderator it is their job to moderate the server and deal with those source placements and grief, if they have a problem with not helping people, then that is an issue. If they can't be bothered with source placements and what not, then I wonder why they would apply in the first place.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: D00MKNlGHT on July 24, 2012, 11:35:49 am
Yes I agree with Henz and no tpas, if u want tpa donate >:)
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Boshiwarrior on July 24, 2012, 01:45:48 pm
Yes I agree with Henz and no tpas, if u want tpa donate >:)
And if you can't donate? In my land we nearly never use a Credit Card.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: <>LavaEvan<> on July 24, 2012, 08:11:13 pm
Yea, I agree with you guys, still a good suggestion though!
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: D00MKNlGHT on July 24, 2012, 10:11:41 pm
OPticalza won't want a way that donation can be obtained without donating as it would RUIN THAT donation as ppl will think senior trusted=free tpa so they won't donate for it. No credit card? Too bad :/
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: NatanylJames (N8MATTHEWS) on July 24, 2012, 11:00:18 pm
I use paypal, but i dont know if that needs a credit card XD, its my parents paypal account that they set up for me, so if it does need a credit card then i got one and i had no clue
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Nyssa on July 24, 2012, 11:06:15 pm
We have enough ranks already, there are more cons than pros.

I hope this doesn't stem from the "There's too many trusteds" complaint the trusted people have...
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Chipaton on July 24, 2012, 11:38:29 pm
We have enough ranks already, there are more cons than pros.

I hope this doesn't stem from the "There's too many trusteds" complaint the trusted people have...
I suppose so, and we can never have too many trusted players!
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: bantam2 on July 25, 2012, 12:12:16 am
I do not understand this rank. Are you using this as a title to show that you are "Senior" and not just Trusted or are you doing it to help others. Being Trusted on this server does not at all entail you to help others out. Your job is to build and have fun. I am seeing a lot of Trusted members doing things like this where they are acting all high and mighty due to the fact that they are Trusted. You guys are not Trusted to place water for others, thats what Moderators are for. Lately I have seen Trusted players talk down to Guests and even Members. If you can recall, you were there once yourselves! This is not at all faced toward Chipaton, but to Trusted players as a whole. It is great that you want to help others but this "Senior Trusted", 'better than you' rank is not at all needed. If you want abilities such as placing lava and fire, show that you have the maturity in-game to do it and when Mod-Apps open up, apply.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: iGenerator on July 25, 2012, 12:47:34 am
This topic just makes me think you are saying "well i want to help sometimes but not all the time so i don't wanna be a mod but i want to have the same powers of them" If you want to be a mod, do it. If you cant take on all the responsibilities they have then don't.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Chipaton on July 25, 2012, 02:34:21 am
This topic just makes me think you are saying "well i want to help sometimes but not all the time so i don't wanna be a mod but i want to have the same powers of them" If you want to be a mod, do it. If you cant take on all the responsibilities they have then don't.
This topic was not to benefit myself, but to better the community and reward those trusted who go above and beyond, while also being mature enough to be a mod. Some people just dont want to be mod, which is very understandable. Youre taking this from the wrong perspective that I wish to be able to place lava and fire, which is not the case. Thanks for sharing your opinion towards this though.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Duinis on July 27, 2012, 10:34:47 am
I like this idea. (No surprise, I'm a Trusted myself xP)
However, I reckon it should be adjusted a bit.

1. If it gets implemented, purple name.
2. They should just be able to place fire, and that's the only advantage.
3. They only get it if they've been Trusted for a while, and they play regularly, and they are kind and help people out.
4. No, I'm not writing this cuz I would really want this rank. >.>
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: bantam2 on July 27, 2012, 10:45:28 am
Really!?!?! Your first requirement is color? C'mon. That is why we have mods.

Another note by the way; I believe Optical made it so everyone can use fire charges only on obsidian.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Duinis on July 27, 2012, 12:27:33 pm
Really!?!?! Your first requirement is color? C'mon. That is why we have mods.

Another note by the way; I believe Optical made it so everyone can use fire charges only on obsidian.

But... Colour is important DD: :P
And yes, I know that people can use fire charges on obsidian. But...
1. For some people, fire charges would be incredibly difficult to get.
2. People sometimes like fireplaces..
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: DeeKay on July 27, 2012, 12:37:01 pm
If you wanna be 'senior' and help people, apply for Moderator. Simple.
Like everyone has already said; Mods will do the tp'ing, fire and lava placement.

I really see no more discussion for this, as we've pretty much covered everything.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Complicated_Name on July 27, 2012, 01:04:42 pm
Reminds me of the old days when only admins could promote trusted people. lol
Admins don't promote trusted anymore?
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: TarynMai on July 27, 2012, 01:06:01 pm
Reminds me of the old days when only admins could promote trusted people. lol
Admins don't promote trusted anymore?

OMFG LUCHO. HI. And operators promote them now.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Complicated_Name on July 27, 2012, 01:12:39 pm
Reminds me of the old days when only admins could promote trusted people. lol
Admins don't promote trusted anymore?

OMFG LUCHO. HI. And operators promote them now.
That's odd, at least how I see it.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: TarynMai on July 27, 2012, 07:20:51 pm
Reminds me of the old days when only admins could promote trusted people. lol
Admins don't promote trusted anymore?

OMFG LUCHO. HI. And operators promote them now.
That's odd, at least how I see it.
Its cause youre old and left shortly after the server went back up. lol
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Duinis on July 27, 2012, 11:35:07 pm
Is this the first time a Trusted has to tell an op to stay ontopic? >.>
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: Chipaton on July 27, 2012, 11:42:40 pm
Is this the first time a Trusted has to tell an op to stay ontopic? >.>
Nope.
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: SalsaInABowl on July 28, 2012, 11:47:57 am
Super operator...super admin... I have a better idea.

SUPER GUEST!!!
Title: Re: New Rank- Senior Trusted
Post by: bantam2 on July 28, 2012, 05:32:47 pm
Im locking this. Its not going to happen.