Opticraft Community
Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: lordyokel on December 16, 2012, 02:09:10 am
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It has come to my attention that the age requirement to sign up on opticraft is 13. through out my time on the server, i have noticed that there are people below the age of 13. i dont have a problem with kids younger than 13 but it goes against the opticraft rules. Any thoughts?
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I think most of them should get banned because it is breaking the rules and most of them are completely immature. there are a handful that are good players though.
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im just wondering if they should change the age requirement to accommodate the younger players or if they should crack down on the individuals that broke the trus agreement when they made their account?
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Well i think 13 is a great age and should maybe even be increased to 14 but those kids should be cracked down on and banned.
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I think that if someone signs up on this website and the very first thing they do is lie about their age, it is a direct violation of the opticraft rules and it sets a very unstable foundation for the individuals relationship with the opticraft community
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I believe it is because of this. (http://www.coppa.org/)
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well, that brings thins to an easy conclusion. thanks
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Well I think 13 is a good age because there is the odd person who will swear until the heart is content.
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We have no problem with younger kids playing on our servers, so long as they don't cause too many problems.
When people (especially kids) start lying about their age, that's when things start to turn into a mess.
Again, we're not concerned about the age limit when it comes to the servers themselves, but forum regulations will still be followed.
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13 is not an opticraft policy, almost every forum you sign up on will have that same statement because it has to.
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I think most of them should get banned because it is breaking the rules and most of them are completely immature. there are a handful that are good players though.
Can I just say I am 12 but I am not immature
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Banning everyone under 13? Wow lol, thats actually discrimination, and besides, the target audience for Minecraft includes kids.
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I totally agree.
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So you know, if a kid gets their parent to help them sign up, they can play on opti. They just cant lie.
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We have no problem with younger kids playing on our servers, so long as they don't cause too many problems.
When people (especially kids) start lying about their age, that's when things start to turn into a mess.
Again, we're not concerned about the age limit when it comes to the servers themselves, but forum regulations will still be followed.
Exactly, When people start lying about their age; It's no longer Opticraft's legal responsibility to deal with it. However...
I think most of them should get banned because it is breaking the rules and most of them are completely immature. there are a handful that are good players though.
Can I just say I am 12 but I am not immature
I'd argue that this statement here would legally breach the act. Unless Lema's parents consent.
However; They aren't going to shut down Opticraft out of the blue, I believe someone would have to file a complaint for them to even do anything.
And worse case; They'd probably just pester the service provider to shut the server down.
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Why dont we wait till theyre all 13?
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Why argue about this. Nick already said this:
13 is not an opticraft policy, almost every forum you sign up on will have that same statement because it has to.
That means it is something we have to put up. If the kids found us and can act mature why not just let them on. The mature ones cause no harm and in fact help us. We have dealt with immature players before so obviously we can handle it.
P.S. Some adult can be as immature as kids. So why single out just the kids. Ban the immature players and leave everyone else alone is my opinion because thats what we have been doing and what is working.
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Think about it. What if, because you are not over 18 like me, you were banned from Opticraft? All your fun and hard work gone, just because you're not an age? Minecraft is a game, centered around kids. They pretty much are supposed to be here, so why discriminate?
Edit - Who can help me resize my signature?
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Having them on the server is fine, its just the forum that we need to be careful with
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Having them on the server is fine, its just the forum that we need to be careful with
What do you mean? If people act immature on the forums, they'll get a bann aswell.
Regardless of what age you are.
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Guys listen to yourselfs. Your saying there should be an older age limite. Well the man who made minecraft made it to be for kids. The game revolves about creations and kids playing and having fun. You guys are saying there needs to be an age limite on who can play. I don't think that is fair. Because what was the game made for?? it was made for kids to have fun and create and survive.
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The rule should be everyone must act 13 and older, not be 13 and older. Actually, that kind of already is a rule because those who don't act like they're 13 or older just get banned for griefing, or doing something else that is stupid. If they don't act immature then how would we know they are underaged. Of course I'm talking about the players that don't tell us their real age, like Lema, or post pictures of themselves, and I'm not factoring in mumble because not too many players use it.
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The rule should be everyone must act 13 and older, not be 13 and older. Actually, that kind of already is a rule because those who don't act like they're 13 or older just get banned for griefing, or doing something else that is stupid. If they don't act immature then how would we know they are underaged. Of course I'm talking about the players that don't tell us their real age, like Lema, or post pictures of themselves, and I'm not factoring in mumble because not too many players use it.
Or we can continue with what we've been doing before; which is not treat people differently because of their age. because the bottom line is that this is just a game.
The content on the forums however may not be suitable for kids. Buuut as I always say "Online interactions are not rated by the ESRB" >:D
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As long as people arent insanely inappropriate on the forums it should be fine.
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everyone is arguing about playing the game. it is perfectly ok for them to play the game and be on opticraft. the part that i have concern for is the fact that they are going against the opticraft terms by signing up on the forum. when you sign up on the opticraft web site, it asks you if you are 13+. look, bottom line is, if they play on the server, that is fine but when they are on the forums when they are not supposed to, it can get opticraft in trouble because it goes against the law.
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I honestly think this law is being overlooked far too much. As like a lot of you... I don't have an issue with minors on the game. but by singing up on the forums the law is being broken. these people then go and sign up for op/mod and jeopardise them selves and opti. it needs to be looked in to and the people need sussing out.
Being only my opinion... i don't care what you have to say about it, in all honesty. Unless you agree
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I honestly think this law is being overlooked far too much. As like a lot of you... I don't have an issue with minors on the game. but by singing up on the forums the law is being broken. these people then go and sign up for op/mod and jeopardise them selves and opti. it needs to be looked in to and the people need sussing out.
Being only my opinion... i don't care what you have to say about it, in all honesty. Unless you agree
The real reason this suggestion is being brought up is because lordyokel here wants to bring something up in order to make his own image greater. And I've been seeing this going on with a lot of newcomers.
As I've mentioned before, That law should only come into effect if someone complains, or if any information gathered on the ~13 year olds information is released (Which is illegal in the first place due to the Internet privacy acts)
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The real reason this suggestion is being brought up is because lordyokel here wants to bring something up in order to make his own image greater. And I've been seeing this going on with a lot of newcomers.
...First off, this was a very pointed and slanderous comment. Assuming the worst of people is no way to help build community here at Opticraft. Everything that he said was completely constructive. In my opinion, you should be ashamed of yourself for speaking down to him simply because you have been here longer.
That being said, I think that if someone in the Opticraft community knows, for a fact, that someone has broken the terms and conditions then they have an obligation to report that person. Feigning ignorance doesn't have a very strong legal precedent, and it is always better to be safe than sorry.
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The real reason this suggestion is being brought up is because lordyokel here wants to bring something up in order to make his own image greater. And I've been seeing this going on with a lot of newcomers.
...First off, this was a very pointed and slanderous comment. Assuming the worst of people is no way to help build community here at Opticraft. Everything that he said was completely constructive. In my opinion, you should be ashamed of yourself for speaking down to him simply because you have been here longer.
That being said, I think that if someone in the Opticraft community knows, for a fact, that someone has broken the terms and conditions then they have an obligation to report that person. Feigning ignorance doesn't have a very strong legal precedent, and it is always better to be safe than sorry.
It's not slanderous. I'm just pointing out the obvious ^^
I used to do things like that as well for many boards that I was new to, and I see lots of people doing it as well. However in this case, I've been seeing topics pop up every few days for things already covered in the past (For the most part).
I think that portion is better left for Opticraft's administration to decide on.
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The real reason this suggestion is being brought up is because lordyokel here wants to bring something up in order to make his own image greater. And I've been seeing this going on with a lot of newcomers.
...First off, this was a very pointed and slanderous comment. Assuming the worst of people is no way to help build community here at Opticraft. Everything that he said was completely constructive. In my opinion, you should be ashamed of yourself for speaking down to him simply because you have been here longer.
That being said, I think that if someone in the Opticraft community knows, for a fact, that someone has broken the terms and conditions then they have an obligation to report that person. Feigning ignorance doesn't have a very strong legal precedent, and it is always better to be safe than sorry.
It's not slanderous. I'm just pointing out the obvious ^^
I used to do things like that as well for many boards that I was new to, and I see lots of people doing it as well. However in this case, I've been seeing topics pop up every few days for things already covered in the past (For the most part).
I think that portion is better left for Opticraft's administration to decide on.
What you said was very rude to lordyokel, just because you have been here first doesn't mean you can say whatever you want.
I would like to close this conversation by saying that we won't be enforcing any age rule because -
A - we don't have a way to know each and everyone's age
B - even if we did have, it wouldn't be fair and equal to be younger audience if they can't go on the forums like everyone else.
In the same breath I would like to ask the community to be a bit more mature on the forums, newer posts these days are becoming more and more innaproprite and/or useless. Please think before posting.
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I think that settles it. Im going to lock this if no one objects.