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Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => Suggestions => Topic started by: SonicHogSpeed on November 19, 2012, 02:38:35 am

Title: Voter identity protection
Post by: SonicHogSpeed on November 19, 2012, 02:38:35 am
Well, we all know that people vote for others many times to either troll or just to do it. If possible, you guys should link the username to the password we use to log in Minecraft or for the Opticraft forums. Although, this will not only stop those trollers but also the people voting for others with permission.
Like, it's asking for your in-game username but it will also ask for your password.
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on November 19, 2012, 03:32:05 am
That's not good.... But holy crap how about changing it to where you cant vote unless you supply your forum password!!! That would solve a lot of the people who spam vote everyone.
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: hammysandwhich on November 19, 2012, 05:50:59 am
Yeah i agree, yesterday someone voted for like every person on the server...
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: iGenerator on November 19, 2012, 06:05:17 am
I dont see the problem unless you are in such a diehard mindset about getting top voter it really shouldnt be such a huge deal
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: SonicHogSpeed on November 19, 2012, 03:07:57 pm
That's not good.... But holy crap how about changing it to where you cant vote unless you supply your forum password!!! That would solve a lot of the people who spam vote everyone.
Yeah, that was another thought; but I forgot to put that in. I'll edit it in now
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: SonicHogSpeed on November 19, 2012, 03:10:07 pm
I dont see the problem unless you are in such a diehard mindset about getting top voter it really shouldnt be such a huge deal
You never know if those people don't or do the actual voting on the websites.
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: Hasan (Tabooti) on November 19, 2012, 04:03:29 pm
But I don't want to give my Forum username & password to randoms so they can vote for meeeeeeee.
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: SalsaInABowl on November 19, 2012, 06:49:24 pm
But I don't want to give my Forum username & password to randoms so they can vote for meeeeeeee.

O_o E spam? But tabooti is right, sometimes I can't vote ATM and I need someone to do it for me.
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: clawstrider on November 19, 2012, 07:16:45 pm
But I don't want to give my Forum username & password to randoms so they can vote for meeeeeeee.
I dont see the problem unless you are in such a diehard mindset about getting top voter it really shouldnt be such a huge deal

These basically sum up my thoughts on this matter. Although I can see where Sonic is coming from, I think its making a big thing out of nothing, I don't see any real negative effects. (And Sonic, how do we know the real person does the actual voting on the website? We don't but its a risk we take, whoever the person is).
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: Selkon_Hunter on November 19, 2012, 10:10:29 pm
I would like to call to your attention to this quote from optical.


And I quote from the topic, "Password to Vote"

Adding a password to vote would deter users. Also, we have no real authentication between minecraft and forum right now, so it would require a bit of work to get done, which is not worth it right now.

Link:
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Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: Nyssa on November 19, 2012, 11:56:20 pm
The negative effects of having someone else vote for you is that the vote sites take one vote per ip, so if they vote for themselves and you, we lose a vote.. Now if they vote for 5 other people, we lose 5 votes. Voting may be annoying but we need them to grow and people who are voting for other people are not helping at all.
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: ☣2crzy4uall☣ on November 20, 2012, 01:52:31 am
Just have it to where you can only vote if logged in... as that user.
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: CazualxGrenade on November 20, 2012, 04:58:11 am
Just have it to where you can only vote if logged in... as that user.
Brilliant. That could stop people from voting for others, and so it makes other people unable for them to vote for ye.
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: DeeKay on November 20, 2012, 09:18:28 am
Just have it to where you can only vote if logged in... as that user.
When scrolling down this page, I was about to suggest that =p
This could work because our forum username is linked to our Minecraft name, either when we signed up or used the existing member script.
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: Felix on November 20, 2012, 10:22:38 am
But I don't want to give my Forum username & password to randoms so they can vote for meeeeeeee.
I dont see the problem unless you are in such a diehard mindset about getting top voter it really shouldnt be such a huge deal

These basically sum up my thoughts on this matter. Although I can see where Sonic is coming from, I think its making a big thing out of nothing, I don't see any real negative effects. (And Sonic, how do we know the real person does the actual voting on the website? We don't but its a risk we take, whoever the person is).

Unfortunately, I do see a "negative effect" - I mean, this is just my opinion of course, but WHY should someone benefit from the voting reward if THEY can not be bothered to voted for themselves?

We all want to vote for our favourite server (Opticraft) right? Well, time to do it for yourself (ourselves) and not expect/have someone to do it for us - You're at school/work/vacation - Tough.. wait it out, vote when you get home/online and THEN receive the reward... Why should those (like me (& the vast majority)) vote and dig for diamonds when others can be out shopping/swimming or whatever else people get up to and reap the same rewards?? Doesn't make sense does it!

I for one think it should be made more difficult (Username & Password required (IP Linked??) AND (if possible) the reward ONLY given once the user has actually voted on the sites following and not just clicking on the [Vote] link.

Disclaimer: This post is not directed at anyone in name or by reference. It is also not out of jealousy that someone is getting something for nothing. This reply is simply something that makes complete common sense (to me).
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: clawstrider on November 20, 2012, 11:07:10 am
The negative effects of having someone else vote for you is that the vote sites take one vote per ip, so if they vote for themselves and you, we lose a vote.. Now if they vote for 5 other people, we lose 5 votes. Voting may be annoying but we need them to grow and people who are voting for other people are not helping at all.

Alright, fair point.

I can see username (Logged on the forum) working, but not ip. What if I'm at a friends house, and want to vote (etc.)?

Other than that, I'm not sure.

Also, I doubt its possible to make it so you only get the diamonds after captcha-ing, otherise it would have already been done.
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: hennydeez on November 20, 2012, 03:55:25 pm
I can see username (Logged on the forum) working, but not ip. What if I'm at a friends house, and want to vote (etc.)?

Other than that, I'm not sure.

Also, I doubt its possible to make it so you only get the diamonds after captcha-ing, otherise it would have already been done.

Well tough luck, voting sites or server listings are the ones taking a vote per ip, in which we won't be able to alter the settings according to our liking.

It is possible getting diamonds after passing the captcha, it would just require sites that support Votifier in which will not happen since xtremetop100 does it by script not Votifier.
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: clawstrider on November 20, 2012, 04:27:25 pm
I can see username (Logged on the forum) working, but not ip. What if I'm at a friends house, and want to vote (etc.)?

Other than that, I'm not sure.

Also, I doubt its possible to make it so you only get the diamonds after captcha-ing, otherise it would have already been done.

Well tough luck, voting sites or server listings are the ones taking a vote per ip, in which we won't be able to alter the settings according to our liking.

It is possible getting diamonds after passing the captcha, it would just require sites that support Votifier in which will not happen since xtremetop100 does it by script not Votifier.

I think you misunderstood me. I was responding to Felix, who suggested ip linking your account and voting ip location ^^
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: CazualxGrenade on December 02, 2012, 03:31:50 pm
I can see username (Logged on the forum) working, but not ip. What if I'm at a friends house, and want to vote (etc.)?

Other than that, I'm not sure.

Also, I doubt its possible to make it so you only get the diamonds after captcha-ing, otherise it would have already been done.

Well tough luck, voting sites or server listings are the ones taking a vote per ip, in which we won't be able to alter the settings according to our liking.

It is possible getting diamonds after passing the captcha, it would just require sites that support Votifier in which will not happen since xtremetop100 does it by script not Votifier.

I think you misunderstood me. I was responding to Felix, who suggested ip linking your account and voting ip location ^^
But, what if you were somewhere else nowhere near your IP location. Say you were in a different state, would it still count for voting?
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: SonicHogSpeed on December 03, 2012, 12:53:34 am
But, what if you were somewhere else nowhere near your IP location. Say you were in a different state, would it still count for voting?
Speaking of which, I'm going to Phoenix, Arizona this Christmas season. Will there be any difficulties for those sites on my votes?
Title: Re: Voter identity protection
Post by: Hasan (Tabooti) on December 03, 2012, 06:51:27 pm
I'll just point out 2 major facts that I've just realized now.

ALL the button does, is redirect you to the voting website. Putting down your name, only tells you if you can vote again or not.

Point 1. People could EASILY just copy the websites down, and continue voting for other people.

Point 2 The reason the voting system is the way it is now, is to make the voting sites accessible to guests, or people who don't want to create an account. By making the vote button accessible to registered users only would lower, and make voting harder.


/thread already please.
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