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Title: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: optical on February 17, 2012, 06:32:03 am
Server IP: smp.opticraft.net

Hi,

We have decided to make a few protection stone changes we think you will all like.

Firstly, you can now sell back your existing stones in order to allow you to upsize when you can afford it.
Secondly, in approximately 24 hours after this post we will be lowering the prices of all the stones.
Coal will become $1,500.
Lapis will become $10,000
Diamond will become $55,000

We are announcing this before making the change so that you will have time to exchange your existing stones at the current prices.

We will also be giving new members from now on a coal protection stone when they sign up. This is for all new members, so existing members will not be eligible - sorry!

Finally, all players starting off on the server will begin with a wooden kit consisting of a sword, axe and pickaxe, along with some food and torches to get them started. This should make starting off more bearable. If you have any other suggestions on what would make starting out for new players more bearable, let me know.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Dagony(Nima_ilz) on February 17, 2012, 06:39:59 am
Starters inventory always work its no mod.Keep going optical ;)
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Nyssa on February 17, 2012, 06:46:42 am
Hope the protection stones don't bite you in the bum Opti. =s
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: optical on February 17, 2012, 07:00:01 am
Hope the protection stones don't bite you in the bum Opti. =s

Indeed, we will see how it goes :P
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Skepter on February 17, 2012, 07:21:26 am
OMG thanks! this will really help new ppl
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: TheRealFamous on February 17, 2012, 07:42:55 am
Finally, This idea is pretty cool and we won't have to hear Starters screaming for items anymore, Thanks Optical. Hope this won't go wrong with the PS.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Kian on February 17, 2012, 09:16:28 am
Yes that's a good idea, A very good idea  :P.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: SoulKnightGT on February 17, 2012, 10:42:04 am
Really awesome. Thanks Opti!
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Post by: Complicated_Name on February 17, 2012, 11:08:14 am
Yeah, the starter kit seems fine.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Smiteme69 on February 17, 2012, 01:24:39 pm
Some much needed addidtions, BUT!!!

 Damn i recently brought 4 lapiz PS and about 7 Coal PS!
I could break and sell but that leaves my property wide open to griefers, but i guess grief can always be rolled back.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: bern019 on February 17, 2012, 01:48:08 pm
Sometimes I just randomly give away food at the spawn. Maybe I'm helping too! Even if I don't know what I'm doing. But, if ps prices go down, could'nt someone just buy a lot then reserve the entire tundra zone near the spawn castle?
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Ramkitty on February 17, 2012, 01:50:15 pm
Sometimes I just randomly give away food at the spawn. Maybe I'm helping too! Even if I don't know what I'm doing. But, if ps prices go down, could'nt someone just buy a lot then reserve the entire tundra zone near the spawn castle?

If we find that people are just randomnly placing protection stones outside of the spawn area, without need for them they shall be removed, and the owner of the protection stones will be warned and they will lose the stones.
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Post by: TarynMai on February 17, 2012, 03:54:08 pm
Cool! Sounds like a great idea!
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Post by: SalasCraft on February 17, 2012, 04:05:22 pm
Really liking the improvements.

Keep it up!
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Post by: tylerhan2000 on February 17, 2012, 05:45:16 pm
As I've suggested before, kits for different ranks:

This is what should happen.

This system would help ranks, donation, etc.
Donators should have their own rank, and kits.
A kit is a set of tools that you can spawn anytime after a cooldown.

So when someone types /kit starter, they get the started kit spawned, etc

You are NOT allowed to sell kit spawned items
Kit suggestions:

(Free) Starter kit (available to guests+) - Wooden shovel, wooden pick, wooden axe, wooden sword, bow, 5 arrows, 5 torches (30 minute cooldown)

(Free) Member kit (available to Member+ ) - stone shovel, stone pick, stone axe, stone sword, bow, 10 arrows, 10 torches, 5 bread (60 minute cooldown)

(Free) Trusted kit (available to Trusted+ ) - iron shovel, iron pick, iron axe, iron sword, bow, 20 arrows, 15 torches, 1 cake (90 minute cooldown)

(Donate 5$) donator kit (available to only Donators) - diamond shovel, diamond pick, diamond axe, diamond sword, bow, 64 arrows, 36 torches, 5 cake (90 minute cooldown)

(Donate 25+$) custom kit (available to only Donators with 25$+) - anything they want within reasonable amount to the amount they donated, 10 diamond blocks, grass blocks, iron bars, etc.(120 minute cooldown)
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Kian on February 17, 2012, 06:00:53 pm
good odea! that way it eill be faironeveryone.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: tbpb2010 on February 17, 2012, 07:33:02 pm
As I've suggested before, kits for different ranks:

This is what should happen.

This system would help ranks, donation, etc.
Donators should have their own rank, and kits.
A kit is a set of tools that you can spawn anytime after a cooldown.

So when someone types /kit starter, they get the started kit spawned, etc

You are NOT allowed to sell kit spawned items
Kit suggestions:

(Free) Starter kit (available to guests+) - Wooden shovel, wooden pick, wooden axe, wooden sword, bow, 5 arrows, 5 torches (30 minute cooldown)

(Free) Member kit (available to Member+ ) - stone shovel, stone pick, stone axe, stone sword, bow, 10 arrows, 10 torches, 5 bread (60 minute cooldown)

(Free) Trusted kit (available to Trusted+ ) - iron shovel, iron pick, iron axe, iron sword, bow, 20 arrows, 15 torches, 1 cake (90 minute cooldown)

(Donate 5$) donator kit (available to only Donators) - diamond shovel, diamond pick, diamond axe, diamond sword, bow, 64 arrows, 36 torches, 5 cake (90 minute cooldown)

(Donate 25+$) custom kit (available to only Donators with 25$+) - anything they want within reasonable amount to the amount they donated, 10 diamond blocks, grass blocks, iron bars, etc.(120 minute cooldown)

I swear I've seen this on another server b4 but its an excellent idea nonetheless.  I'd say these tools are easy enough to come buy to be able to spawn freely in the form of a kit although i can see donators becoming rich within a matter of 24 hours, then again I don't have a problem with ppl getting rich...

I support this! :D
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on February 17, 2012, 11:02:28 pm
Please, no kits!
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Post by: Yomo on February 17, 2012, 11:42:12 pm
agreed. Kits completely take the S out of SMP the survival.
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Post by: Rezathin (Logan5353) on February 17, 2012, 11:47:22 pm
I agree Yomamma. I think the starter kit is fine because the new players won't complain anymore, but I don't think we need any kits other than that one.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: SalasCraft on February 18, 2012, 12:03:32 am
I actually think kits are fine, they will pretty much run out in an hour or so of gameplay, so it shouldn't be a big deal.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: ASEDRGGGGGGGGG on February 18, 2012, 07:41:31 am
Maybe you could start with 5 Cobble Stone.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Nyssa on February 18, 2012, 08:11:24 am
Maybe you could start with 5 Cobble Stone.

What would be the point of wooden tools then?
If it wouldn't be for tools what would it be for? You can't exactly build a shelter with it.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: optical on February 18, 2012, 09:56:56 am
Prices have now been updated
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Kian on February 18, 2012, 04:41:22 pm
yay thanks optical!
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: tylerhan2000 on February 18, 2012, 07:32:40 pm
And minecraft is down! :/
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: SalasCraft on February 18, 2012, 08:31:15 pm
And minecraft is down! :/

Could be 1.2, don't be sad :D

haha, who knows.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: liebelegof on February 19, 2012, 01:43:24 am
make it so existing players that dont have stones can get one for free. :D thx
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: D00MKNlGHT on February 19, 2012, 04:38:59 am
yep optic maybe u should add a link for existing players to get a coal ps free... like that time with the $500
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: optical on February 19, 2012, 05:35:04 am
This wont happen. Sorry
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Spamarian on February 19, 2012, 07:05:34 am
I agree that these kits are not good for the server.
But I like that we are able to sell them back!!
Well done!
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Xeadin on February 19, 2012, 07:19:42 am
A starting kit for new players is bearable, but not kits for the other ranks. I like the idea of a donation kit.

Also, maybe a Donator rank where the person is able to teleport to other players, and maybe the option to get in-game money by donations.

Those are just my two-cents
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Dagony(Nima_ilz) on February 19, 2012, 02:50:16 pm
Also a good idea Player X-ray.you can see all players around you and under ground.It don't show ore's chest and other stuff its only for players.Like a psychic rader if i can get permission to test it give me a shoot.To post screen shots

Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: tylerhan2000 on February 19, 2012, 03:58:40 pm
Quote
Also a good idea Player X-ray.you can see all players around you and under ground.It don't show ore's chest and other stuff its only for players.Like a psychic rader if i can get permission to test it give me a shoot.To post screen shots

That's called a X-ray texture pack. Which is illegal.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Dagony(Nima_ilz) on February 19, 2012, 04:05:14 pm
its not so long you can't see ore,s or chests ect..Its not forbidden the only thing you see is bedrock and players.Like the whole map is clear if you walk on the surface you 100% sure you drowning because you can't see anything.

Oke lets end this talk
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Llyrrr (XpLo) on February 19, 2012, 04:21:27 pm
é_é That's basically a X-ray mod.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: SalasCraft on February 19, 2012, 08:51:41 pm
its not so long you can't see ore,s or chests ect..Its not forbidden the only thing you see is bedrock and players.Like the whole map is clear if you walk on the surface you 100% sure you drowning because you can't see anything.

Oke lets end this talk
How is that useful in any way?

That's the dumbest thing, to be honest.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: tbpb2010 on February 20, 2012, 02:24:15 am
its not so long you can't see ore,s or chests ect..Its not forbidden the only thing you see is bedrock and players.Like the whole map is clear if you walk on the surface you 100% sure you drowning because you can't see anything.

Oke lets end this talk
How is that useful in any way?

That's the dumbest thing, to be honest.

Closest thing we got to this is /near
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Yomo on February 20, 2012, 05:14:24 pm
its not so long you can't see ore,s or chests ect..Its not forbidden the only thing you see is bedrock and players.Like the whole map is clear if you walk on the surface you 100% sure you drowning because you can't see anything.

Oke lets end this talk
Just make sure that you dont use one. And what is the point? we will find out instantly. we find the tunnels then logblock it. We will catch you if Anyone hacks
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: DJAlphaWolf on February 20, 2012, 07:26:34 pm
Sigh, you guys honestly do not understand what he is saying. I agree it's a mod, illegal and possibly useless but as far as I see he is not using it like a normal Xray texture pack. His xray mod is supposedly just a player finder not some kind of ore, chest or spawner finder like the original Xray mod would be. He just hoped to locate others near him through a somewhat psychic mod (perhaps just highlighting players a bright green which shows they are near), however that does not imply that he can see through walls or is able to find other ores.

In my opinion, this probably should not be allowed since it would be hard to distinguish if it was an actual X-ray mod or just a player finder. However, I did not agree how quickly some Operators and Moderators jumped to conclusions that he would use it as a way to find certain ores or chests (even though he repeatedly stated that its not meant to be used for that reason).
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: clawstrider on February 20, 2012, 08:49:24 pm
Sigh, you guys honestly do not understand what he is saying. I agree it's a mod, illegal and possibly useless but as far as I see he is not using it like a normal Xray texture pack. His xray mod is supposedly just a player finder not some kind of ore, chest or spawner finder like the original Xray mod would be. He just hoped to locate others near him through a somewhat psychic mod (perhaps just highlighting players a bright green which shows they are near), however that does not imply that he can see through walls or is able to find other ores.

In my opinion, this probably should not be allowed since it would be hard to distinguish if it was an actual X-ray mod or just a player finder. However, I did not agree how quickly some Operators and Moderators jumped to conclusions that he would use it as a way to find certain ores or chests (even though he repeatedly stated that its not meant to be used for that reason).

Every time someone suggests a mod, the SMP moderators seem to do this, without realising it is a decent suggestion.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: SalasCraft on February 20, 2012, 09:05:17 pm
Sigh, you guys honestly do not understand what he is saying. I agree it's a mod, illegal and possibly useless but as far as I see he is not using it like a normal Xray texture pack. His xray mod is supposedly just a player finder not some kind of ore, chest or spawner finder like the original Xray mod would be. He just hoped to locate others near him through a somewhat psychic mod (perhaps just highlighting players a bright green which shows they are near), however that does not imply that he can see through walls or is able to find other ores.

In my opinion, this probably should not be allowed since it would be hard to distinguish if it was an actual X-ray mod or just a player finder. However, I did not agree how quickly some Operators and Moderators jumped to conclusions that he would use it as a way to find certain ores or chests (even though he repeatedly stated that its not meant to be used for that reason).

Every time someone suggests a mod, the SMP moderators seem to do this, without realising it is a decent suggestion.
Mods should not be suggested, since a rule says they are not allowed.

Now, server plug-ins, that's another thing.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: clawstrider on February 20, 2012, 09:53:21 pm
Sigh, you guys honestly do not understand what he is saying. I agree it's a mod, illegal and possibly useless but as far as I see he is not using it like a normal Xray texture pack. His xray mod is supposedly just a player finder not some kind of ore, chest or spawner finder like the original Xray mod would be. He just hoped to locate others near him through a somewhat psychic mod (perhaps just highlighting players a bright green which shows they are near), however that does not imply that he can see through walls or is able to find other ores.

In my opinion, this probably should not be allowed since it would be hard to distinguish if it was an actual X-ray mod or just a player finder. However, I did not agree how quickly some Operators and Moderators jumped to conclusions that he would use it as a way to find certain ores or chests (even though he repeatedly stated that its not meant to be used for that reason).

Every time someone suggests a mod, the SMP moderators seem to do this, without realising it is a decent suggestion.
Mods should not be suggested, since a rule says they are not allowed.

Now, server plug-ins, that's another thing.

I find that many people consider a server plugin a mod for some reason.
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: bern019 on February 23, 2012, 04:34:34 am
Double posting is bad. AND what about me giving away free food?
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Smiteme69 on February 23, 2012, 09:04:26 am
You won't have to keep giving away free food soon :)
Title: Re: Protection stone price change, new player changes.
Post by: Festhosmhange on February 25, 2012, 07:54:09 am
This thread have gone off the rails... We started with protection stones and new prices, and now were discussing mods and plug-ins? :O