Not bad but there is the classic server
We don't have the man power for this, it has been suggested many times, even by me. Not only this but if we were to have another server we would need a pretty big spike in donations.well like i said. we have enough people willing to do this. and we can make it a world too. such i also said in my first comment. and won't the server get more money if we had more players? from that paticular source?
This is a good idea but surely if its within the smp server it would be using the same staff since we have quite a few staff, if you want the world you'd need to find a way to get the donations up before it happens surely?
Well, How are you going to ensure and enforce all those people to make that big of a commitment?We don't have the man power for this, it has been suggested many times, even by me. Not only this but if we were to have another server we would need a pretty big spike in donations.well like i said. we have enough people willing to do this. and we can make it a world too. such i also said in my first comment. and won't the server get more money if we had more players? from that paticular source?
Well, How are you going to ensure and enforce all those people to make that big of a commitment?We don't have the man power for this, it has been suggested many times, even by me. Not only this but if we were to have another server we would need a pretty big spike in donations.well like i said. we have enough people willing to do this. and we can make it a world too. such i also said in my first comment. and won't the server get more money if we had more players? from that paticular source?
Alright so this is basically me playing devil's advocate....that is...all the ways people will probably respond negatively to this whole thing:
Wouldn't we need way more manpower for a creative world? The mods would have to constantly bounce from the creative world to all the other worlds. And given that creative is essentially fly hacks and unlimited block placement, there's gonna be a lot of spam, grief, inappropriate structures, and more. While our staff team isn't exactly "small", I don't think they'd all be able to handle these worlds.
And trusted+ creative worlds aren't going to happen either because of our equality rules and such ("everyone is equal, we aren't going to give one rank of people stuff because of the rank"). Other than flying and some inaccessable blocks, I really don't see a point in having creative anyways. At this point, there are farms for everything and every item is easily available if you can either farm it or buy it.
If you want to build on a creative world, come play on classic then. Sure its heavily outdated with its blocks and no one uses it anymore, but with a big enough server following as we have now, you can always invite people over to play with you. Otherwise, I'd just say stick with what you got now.
That's basically what most of the responses will look like. So ya, i agree about most of these but that doesn't mean i don't want a creative world. I just know that it probably won't happen and this topic will just get locked and forgotten.
The following are positive points that i also agree with:
Positively though, the instant upsides I see out of this is the creative world will potentially bring in a large amount of players through advertising, because most people only play minecraft for creative and minigames servers now. Trust me, I know that's all people care about anymore.
We can attempt to bring back some of our classic ops on the job, seeing as their positions are essentially useless at this point and they are most experienced in watching over a creative server/world. Of course, we can always have applications for them like any other smp staff.
The argument that things are too much effort, lack of manpower or simply "not gonna happen" are the same arguments that came out of the pvp world suggestions. And that happened. So before we simply say no to something, I'd rather we say maybe. Because if pvp happened, it seems like anything is possible. Opinions change over time and so does the freedom in staffs' schedule. I'd rather the staff thought about the possibility of it happening than it not happening.
It doesn't matter if you have enough people willing to do this, what matters is the one person NOT willing to do this, and that is opti. He wasn't willing to do it back when he had free time and worked on smp and i highly doubt he would be willing to do it now when he has even less free time.We don't have the man power for this, it has been suggested many times, even by me. Not only this but if we were to have another server we would need a pretty big spike in donations.well like i said. we have enough people willing to do this. and we can make it a world too. such i also said in my first comment. and won't the server get more money if we had more players? from that paticular source?
well that's up for him to decide. if you don't try you will never succeed. we can guess what he thinks. but he is still his own person. if he decides not to. it won't happen. but before he says it, it's not off the table yet. even if you doubt it. i will still give this a serious shot.It doesn't matter if you have enough people willing to do this, what matters is the one person NOT willing to do this, and that is opti. He wasn't willing to do it back when he had free time and worked on smp and i highly doubt he would be willing to do it now when he has even less free time.We don't have the man power for this, it has been suggested many times, even by me. Not only this but if we were to have another server we would need a pretty big spike in donations.well like i said. we have enough people willing to do this. and we can make it a world too. such i also said in my first comment. and won't the server get more money if we had more players? from that paticular source?
Well i have asked him a few times before.well that's up for him to decide. if you don't try you will never succeed. we can guess what he thinks. but he is still his own person. if he decides not to. it won't happen. but before he says it, it's not off the table yet. even if you doubt it. i will still give this a serious shot.It doesn't matter if you have enough people willing to do this, what matters is the one person NOT willing to do this, and that is opti. He wasn't willing to do it back when he had free time and worked on smp and i highly doubt he would be willing to do it now when he has even less free time.We don't have the man power for this, it has been suggested many times, even by me. Not only this but if we were to have another server we would need a pretty big spike in donations.well like i said. we have enough people willing to do this. and we can make it a world too. such i also said in my first comment. and won't the server get more money if we had more players? from that paticular source?
well all i can say is we'll see. how else can i respond to this? the only other way is to say: yes nick ofc nick, i love you nick, you are always right nick, what you think is what i should think nick. not really much of a closing of a thought out plan is it?Well i have asked him a few times before.well that's up for him to decide. if you don't try you will never succeed. we can guess what he thinks. but he is still his own person. if he decides not to. it won't happen. but before he says it, it's not off the table yet. even if you doubt it. i will still give this a serious shot.It doesn't matter if you have enough people willing to do this, what matters is the one person NOT willing to do this, and that is opti. He wasn't willing to do it back when he had free time and worked on smp and i highly doubt he would be willing to do it now when he has even less free time.We don't have the man power for this, it has been suggested many times, even by me. Not only this but if we were to have another server we would need a pretty big spike in donations.well like i said. we have enough people willing to do this. and we can make it a world too. such i also said in my first comment. and won't the server get more money if we had more players? from that paticular source?
If what you say is true, that the classic server is dead and that no one plays it anymore, would it be possible to scrap it and take the money going into it right now and put it into a creative server? I know that there's been a lot of history on it, and a lot of amazing builds, but there's the same possibility in creating another server like it, just an updated one.Classic runs on the same vps that the forums and mumble run on. So taking down the server would save no money at all.
As for DJ's earlier comments on the negative side about grieving and random block placing. There could be an application you need to fill out to even get on the server/world. If people are serious about building, then they will apply, and if they are accepted, then they will be a good addition to the community. This will keep out most that will grief and make less work for the staff. Other creative servers do this and their worlds are beautful.
If what you say is true, that the classic server is dead and that no one plays it anymore, would it be possible to scrap it and take the money going into it right now and put it into a creative server? I know that there's been a lot of history on it, and a lot of amazing builds, but there's the same potential in creating another server like it, just an updated one.Love it. Agreed.
As for DJ's earlier comments on the negative side about grieving and random block placing. There could be an application you need to fill out to even get on the server/world. If people are serious about building, then they will apply, and if they are accepted, then they will be a good addition to the community. This will keep out most that will grief and make less work for the staff. Other creative servers do this and their worlds are beautiful.
As for DJ's earlier comments on the negative side about grieving and random block placing. There could be an application you need to fill out to even get on the server/world. If people are serious about building, then they will apply, and if they are accepted, then they will be a good addition to the community. This will keep out most that will grief and make less work for the staff. Other creative servers do this and their worlds are beautful.
what plugin does opticraft use for multiple worlds?Optical coded that.
Creative takes a lot more time to set up than creative.
(all together, 1Gb or so, which the SMP server can afford to loose).
Ik of another creative server, with a flatlands world divvied up into 80x80 plots that you can claim depending on your rank, and only you can allow people into it. Then any grief is the problem of the owner of the plot, since they allowed the player to grief basically. If you want to get a look at this ingame, forum msg me about the ip.
(all together, 1Gb or so, which the SMP server can afford to loose).
no
(all together, 1Gb or so, which the SMP server can afford to loose).
no
From what I remember (Haven't looked for a few months), the server has about 20Gb of RAM and uses about 6Gb.
You wouldn't see a difference unless we got a few hundred more players.
(all together, 1Gb or so, which the SMP server can afford to loose).
no
From what I remember (Haven't looked for a few months), the server has about 20Gb of RAM and uses about 6Gb.
You wouldn't see a difference unless we got a few hundred more players.
this also solves the "not enough manpower" problem that nick is having atm, because griefers wouldnt be able to get in very easily.
(all together, 1Gb or so, which the SMP server can afford to loose).
no
From what I remember (Haven't looked for a few months), the server has about 20Gb of RAM and uses about 6Gb.
You wouldn't see a difference unless we got a few hundred more players.
this also solves the "not enough manpower" problem that nick is having atm, because griefers wouldnt be able to get in very easily.
Um, no. MANpower, not computer power. What they mean by manpower is people who are willing to maintain a server. It would include a whole new set of staff, coding, just imagine all the work put into this server and do it again.
(all together, 1Gb or so, which the SMP server can afford to loose).
no
From what I remember (Haven't looked for a few months), the server has about 20Gb of RAM and uses about 6Gb.
You wouldn't see a difference unless we got a few hundred more players.
this also solves the "not enough manpower" problem that nick is having atm, because griefers wouldnt be able to get in very easily.
Um, no. MANpower, not computer power. What they mean by manpower is people who are willing to maintain a server. It would include a whole new set of staff, coding, just imagine all the work put into this server and do it again.
technically you can copy 95% of the plugins
I havent really read this topic lol, just wanted to point this out. I used it on a server and its pretty cool. Global chat is shared between two servers:
http://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-7-2-bungeecord.392/
If we use a vps, wouldn't it be possible to run a small scale whitelisted server using BungeeCord? A flatlands world, with no plugins, would take very little RAM, as would bungee (all together, 1Gb or so, which the SMP server can afford to loose).
Keep it either application only or donation only. This will prevent 99.9% of possible grief.
You can even set PEX to use mySQL, to have unified ranking.
Plots suck. We need to do creative right and let people build whatever dimensions they want.As always, that thing looks amazing.
Why do we need creative mode again? I built this today, and you can't ever see it in person because it's stuck on my computer.Resized those a bit(click to show/hide)
Plots suck. We need to do creative right and let people build whatever dimensions they want.It looks nice
Why do we need creative mode again? I built this today, and you can't ever see it in person because it's stuck on my computer.
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F37JalA5.png&hash=1a4a8a249b53fc1d6e051b3699f037a0)
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Resized those a bit
Was that post for or against the suggestion? I'm assuming it is for it but the wording was a bit weird...it was for, he wanted to be able to show it ign to people. wich he cant. that's kind of the moral of the story (correct me if i'm wrong)
IGN=in game name...Was that post for or against the suggestion? I'm assuming it is for it but the wording was a bit weird...it was for, he wanted to be able to show it ign to people. wich he cant. that's kind of the moral of the story (correct me if i'm wrong)
yeah typoIGN=in game name...Was that post for or against the suggestion? I'm assuming it is for it but the wording was a bit weird...it was for, he wanted to be able to show it ign to people. wich he cant. that's kind of the moral of the story (correct me if i'm wrong)
"He wanted to show it in game name to people"
Lol wtv.
Wow. That looks amazing.
Too bad this will never happen. This has been suggested many times, and little amount of success has come from the ideas.1.) There have been plenty of topics, obviously people want it.
1.) Too expensive- why would someone pay a but load of money for something that few people want? Our popularity is plummeting, and so is the money.
2.) Less popularity on SMP- if this is successsfull and we end up making a creative world, people would most likely switch to something new. it would leave SMP bare with n one in it.
3.) Who would really want a creative world- if its just puny 16x16 blocks, that would be pointless. For a tone of people just coming in and building tiny structures, it would get old very, very, very, very, quickly.
Why is this still being discussed... We don't have a developer lolThis doesn't have to happen...could happen in the far far future my friend. Ideas....Ideas...
Why is this still being discussed... We don't have a developer lol
This is being posted in the suggestions forum lol. We can talk about this as much as we wantWhy is this still being discussed... We don't have a developer lolThis doesn't have to happen...could happen in the far far future my friend. Ideas....Ideas...
When I asked nick he said we would. A specific plugin would have to be coded to resolve multiple inventories or somethingWhy is this still being discussed... We don't have a developer lol
Because we wouldn't need one.
When I asked nick he said we would. A specific plugin would have to be coded to resolve multiple inventories or somethingWhy is this still being discussed... We don't have a developer lol
Because we wouldn't need one.