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Discussion forum => Classic => Archives => General Discussion => Topic started by: thethermoflux22 on August 16, 2012, 11:00:53 pm

Title: The server's future...
Post by: thethermoflux22 on August 16, 2012, 11:00:53 pm
After the concealment of the classic option on minecraft.net's website, the number and intensity of players coming onto the server is dropping with every passing day.

This is making me worried, as to me it looks like the server is already into it's long and slow death  :-[.

Fewer people are going online now, there are like ten people online at a time, the chat line is emptier and there is generally less going on.

If it continues like this, in my opinion, a year down the line there might be only one person online at a time, with almost nothing going on (ops and admins rarely going online and mostly afk if they do) at all. Maybe people will think that they are the only person in the server!

This may sound mad and weird, but I think it is already happening, and it is making me go for Builder and no higher, as there is not much of a real point in furthering my existence on the server.

Please reply!
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: turtleman918 on August 16, 2012, 11:19:34 pm
Classic link is back on the front page. We are down on players though.....
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: That1Gie on August 16, 2012, 11:38:24 pm
All good things must come to an end. Let's just make the best of what we have while it's still here.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: MegaAero45 on August 16, 2012, 11:52:44 pm
Agreed with that1gie. I know the server is dying and eventually (I don't know when), it will die and go completely inactive.

For whenever that day may come, I must say the Opticraft classic has been one of the most enjoyable experiences on the internet.

We have to bare in mind that Minecraft classic is the oldest verson of Minecraft, and Mojang is slowly losing support of it.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: UnknownHedgehog on August 16, 2012, 11:59:07 pm
Here's my take on the whole thing. I've told you this already Thermo, but I'll put it on this thread.

The moment when the Classic server started to be "dead" was when they started to reset the list of servers weekly at mc.net. There were moments where the server would be busy, but then the server list would reset and we'd be back at the bottom. And honestly, the server doesn't feel anymore "dead" than it was before the they made the link to Classic more concealed at mc.net. I mean, yes the number of players plummeted when they removed Classic from the front page all together. But then when they put it back on there, they came back.

I don't know if I'm right about this, but don't usually the newer players play on the servers that are free-for-all with no rules or any of that? Because, right now, there are about 90 people on a free-for-all server. And unfortunately, T9K have 60+.

So people do still play Classic, but the server list resetting keeps refreshing us to the lower spots.
And T9K somehow knows how to keep the players coming back to Classic somehow. -_-
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Mr.Monkey on August 17, 2012, 12:10:33 am
I think as long as we have the regular members joining it won't die so quickly. We just need a few dedicated people that keep the server a bit lively during the evenings. And, in case it does happen to die, it would be pretty cool to have a creative server instead, with ranks like the classic one :)

We might consider lowering our standards for a while to get more members. Not saying we should let all the noobs get builder now, but we might be a bit easier on them, and make sure there's enough free space for them to build. Also when I'm on during my morning, there's never any operators on. If we want to have global cover, we need to have some operators on in the morning to get some new members from those timezones. It's around midnight for North America, ~8-10am in Europe.

About T9K, they are a gaming community with lots of games, not just minecraft. They get lots of their players from other games too. Maybe it is time we start promoting the classic server in the smp, just like we promote the smp in classic.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: UnknownHedgehog on August 17, 2012, 12:26:00 am
Quote from: Mr.Monkey on August 17, 2012, 12:10:33 am
About T9K, they are a gaming community with lots of games, not just minecraft. They get lots of their players from other games too. Maybe it is time we start promoting the classic server in the smp, just like we promote the smp in classic.

That's been brought before on Classic chat. I personally think that's a great idea.
Since there is no creative server, Classic is the only option, we could promote Classic on smp.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: iGenerator on August 17, 2012, 02:47:49 am
Opticraft is still one of the highest on the Minecraft.net lists if people sort by uptime country or player cap. It bounces back just takes time.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Wyboth on August 17, 2012, 02:48:13 am
Quote from: UnknownHedgehog on August 17, 2012, 12:26:00 am
Quote from: Mr.Monkey on August 17, 2012, 12:10:33 am
About T9K, they are a gaming community with lots of games, not just minecraft. They get lots of their players from other games too. Maybe it is time we start promoting the classic server in the smp, just like we promote the smp in classic.

That's been brought before on Classic chat. I personally think that's a great idea.
Since there is no creative server, Classic is the only option, we could promote Classic on smp.
I fully support this. People won't find Classic on their own, but they will find SMP, and if they don't like the survival aspect, they can come to classic. Aweosme idea.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Tobs on August 17, 2012, 07:54:42 am
It would be expect for classic to become "dead" at some point. If you look at it from Mojang's point of view, you want to give new players a good impression of what Minecraft has to offer so they will purchase the full game on their account. I know many people that have been turned away from Minecraft just because of what classic was like, having a demo makes a whole lot nicer experience when playing.

So many good times in classic over the years, I definitely will keep going on it. I believe it costs optical very little to keep the classic server running so no doubt that it will stay up for some time yet. But this does mean one thing... NO GRIEFERS ON CLASSIC!
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: clawstrider on August 17, 2012, 08:44:04 am
Quote from: UnknownHedgehog on August 16, 2012, 11:59:07 pm
So people do still play Classic, but the server list resetting keeps refreshing us to the lower spots.
And T9K somehow knows how to keep the players coming back to Classic somehow. -_-

Quote from: Mr.Monkey on August 17, 2012, 12:10:33 am
About T9K, they are a gaming community with lots of games, not just minecraft. They get lots of their players from other games too. Maybe it is time we start promoting the classic server in the smp, just like we promote the smp in classic.

I'll tell you how T9K gets players to return. The whole T9K experiance is based around classic, their SMP server is MUCH smaller. On Opti, the front page is filled with SMP, everything is filled with SMP.

If I'm honest, I support Monkey's view, of a creative server, with ranks like, or similar to, classic (Always day, flat land, with bit bigger worlds, or zones with warps to them or something). I think the advantage of having much more blocks, a decent staffing system, a more active community and possibly a world for redstone will tempt many more players, from normal survival players who want to test builds, to the classic players who want to continue building. Note 2 things I think should happen: 1. Sand physics should be off. 2. All builder and crafter and donation worlds, and maybe recruit worlds should be ported to the new server.

Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: arsenic_shark on August 17, 2012, 09:00:34 am
The thing is SMP brings in more money than Classic, hence why its on the front page.

The idea of a classic like SMP server wont ever been hosted by Opti, in my opinion, but as lumi said that he was going to create server with a plugin that could catch Opti's eye.

But for now I dont think Classic will die. As when smaller servers die off first, most players will find another server which would normally be on of the high ones. This means more players will always join.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: raul7legend on August 17, 2012, 09:02:37 am
As long as the server is up, classic will stay. Optical has no intentions of closing classic as of now
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: gameguy96 on August 17, 2012, 09:42:46 am
but a promotion boost will have good work, we need some inprovements.. but what?
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Alpha_Lance on August 17, 2012, 10:08:54 am
You all talked about why we are low on our usual count of members on Classic, but everyone here forgot 2 important facts.

1. Majority of the classic members are ages 15 and under.
2. Summer Vacation has ended. School has begun (Exception being some schools start up in September instead of August.)

Sorry to say, but... Well, expect a larger decline of players by the 7th of September. When weekend homework/projects begin to pile up.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Wyboth on August 17, 2012, 10:44:27 am
Several of you are forgetting an important fact: even if we did set up a classic-like Creative server, several people would not be able to join, since they do not own full minecraft. People like me would have to find a different classic server to play on, since I have no intention of buying it.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: gavin1928374655 on August 17, 2012, 11:18:51 am
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fu6NbH.png&hash=47504ac8c74b1a2ce0198ee0017e4bff)
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: arsenic_shark on August 17, 2012, 11:54:30 am
I feel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3j_fdSpkmE) your sorrow

:P
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Mr.Monkey on August 17, 2012, 12:00:49 pm
This is from a few days ago

(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVHndZ.png&hash=bd8e3fca1447107039b7e7152e040d32)

(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nocturnar.com%2Fforum%2Fattachments%2Fhumor%2F46329d1345158276-forever-alone-untitled-1.jpg&hash=3bda86b9e1c33061e9c6e15331ab8b7b)

As for another reason why the server gets so empty during the summer is because most people don't spend their summer days on their computers. Actually when the schools start again and the weather starts getting worse is when people start getting on again.

Also I talked with Nick yesterday on classic and he said that the classic server is not being removed from opticraft, but if it ever were to happen, we would indeed get a creative server.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: gavin1928374655 on August 17, 2012, 01:34:01 pm
Quote from: Mr.Monkey on August 17, 2012, 12:00:49 pm
This is from a few days ago

(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVHndZ.png&hash=bd8e3fca1447107039b7e7152e040d32)

(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nocturnar.com%2Fforum%2Fattachments%2Fhumor%2F46329d1345158276-forever-alone-untitled-1.jpg&hash=3bda86b9e1c33061e9c6e15331ab8b7b)

As for another reason why the server gets so empty during the summer is because most people don't spend their summer days on their computers. Actually when the schools start again and the weather starts getting worse is when people start getting on again.

Also I talked with Nick yesterday on classic and he said that the classic server is not being removed from opticraft, but if it ever were to happen, we would indeed get a creative server.
one time you thought you were all alone i was there invisible. Remember? XD

also the prospect of a creative server sounds pretty neat
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Wyboth on August 17, 2012, 08:46:38 pm
Guys, don't freak out. Classic is nowhere near dead yet.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Xeadin on August 18, 2012, 01:04:40 am
Nowhere does it say that Classic is going anywhere. The first post of this section is pretty much a freak-out and it's just not necessary. It saves us a lot of skin if you folks could just do your research more often, rather than have us do all the dirty work and try and tell you all to chill out because of something as 'dreadful' as this-- which it's not.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: TimothyThe3rd on August 18, 2012, 05:15:48 am
I've had times a few months ago when I was the only person on Classic. It's just the server list resetting. Nothing to worry about. Team 9000 still has around 100 players usually, and that's because they're always at the top of the list. A couple of days ago I think we had around 80-90 players on. This is nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: gameguy96 on August 18, 2012, 03:59:59 pm
Quote from: Alpha_Lance on August 17, 2012, 10:08:54 am
You all talked about why we are low on our usual count of members on Classic, but everyone here forgot 2 important facts.

1. Majority of the classic members are ages 15 and under.
2. Summer Vacation has ended. School has begun (Exception being some schools start up in September instead of August.)

Sorry to say, but... Well, expect a larger decline of players by the 7th of September. When weekend homework/projects begin to pile up.
alpha we are talking bouth the diffrence in members from nov.dec.jan. when there was always a 150+ guest number on
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: gavin1928374655 on August 19, 2012, 02:15:23 am
Yeah we have been seeing a decrease in guests, even when we're on top
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Kurseddragon on August 19, 2012, 04:02:10 am
Pfft, you guys act like guests matter.

We got everything we need right here. <3

(That was a joke, btw)
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: 5OO on August 19, 2012, 07:02:28 am

Quote from: Mr.Monkey on August 17, 2012, 12:00:49 pm
This is from a few days ago(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVHndZ.png&hash=bd8e3fca1447107039b7e7152e040d32)
(click to show/hide)
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F44w2el.jpg&hash=a9fba47209afa2bd7934875c4bbc9475)
Forver alone in guest. :D
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Wyboth on August 19, 2012, 01:53:55 pm
Quote from: 5OO on August 19, 2012, 07:02:28 am

Quote from: Mr.Monkey on August 17, 2012, 12:00:49 pm
This is from a few days ago(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVHndZ.png&hash=bd8e3fca1447107039b7e7152e040d32)
(click to show/hide)
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F44w2el.jpg&hash=a9fba47209afa2bd7934875c4bbc9475)
Forver alone in guest. :D
New guest world?
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: 5OO on August 20, 2012, 09:41:17 am
Quote from: Wyboth on August 19, 2012, 01:53:55 pm
Quote from: 5OO on August 19, 2012, 07:02:28 am

Quote from: Mr.Monkey on August 17, 2012, 12:00:49 pm
This is from a few days ago(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVHndZ.png&hash=bd8e3fca1447107039b7e7152e040d32)
(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
New guest world?

This was a guest world about 1 hour and 30 minutes after it was created.
(As of this writing, I am currently alone in a 4 hour old guest world)
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: gavin1928374655 on August 20, 2012, 11:01:02 pm
Quote from: 5OO on August 20, 2012, 09:41:17 am
Quote from: Wyboth on August 19, 2012, 01:53:55 pm
Quote from: 5OO on August 19, 2012, 07:02:28 am

Quote from: Mr.Monkey on August 17, 2012, 12:00:49 pm
This is from a few days ago(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVHndZ.png&hash=bd8e3fca1447107039b7e7152e040d32)
(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
New guest world?

This was a guest world about 1 hour and 30 minutes after it was created.
(As of this writing, I am currently alone in a 4 hour old guest world)

Crazy that it remained empty so long. . . . .

We need to bribe mojang or something
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Wyboth on August 22, 2012, 11:40:16 pm
Quote from: 5OO on August 20, 2012, 09:41:17 am
Quote from: Wyboth on August 19, 2012, 01:53:55 pm
Quote from: 5OO on August 19, 2012, 07:02:28 am

Quote from: Mr.Monkey on August 17, 2012, 12:00:49 pm
This is from a few days ago(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVHndZ.png&hash=bd8e3fca1447107039b7e7152e040d32)
(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
New guest world?

This was a guest world about 1 hour and 30 minutes after it was created.
(As of this writing, I am currently alone in a 4 hour old guest world)

Empty = GOOD
Jk guys. I liked the idea of advertising Classic on SMP.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: 5OO on August 25, 2012, 05:04:57 am
I became an operator to help the classic community by moderating the chat, banning griefers, undoing grief, getting rid of blockspam, teaching the commands to guests, reviewing guest builds etc. Without guests I am not really needed. Its been a little over 2 weeks since mojang changed the link to classic, and since then the number of guests have been dwindling. If classic continues to be empty I don't know how much longer I will stay.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: SalsaInABowl on August 25, 2012, 05:25:19 am
Quote from: 5OO on August 25, 2012, 05:04:57 am
I became an operator to help the classic community by moderating the chat, banning griefers, undoing grief, getting rid of blockspam, teaching the commands to guests, reviewing guest builds etc. Without guests I am not really needed. Its been a little over 2 weeks since mojang changed the link to classic, and since then the number of guests have been dwindling. If classic continues to be empty I don't know how much longer I will stay here.

Woo! More time for SMP! Nah just messin with you, I finally made it onto classic for the first time today, it's pretty cool but REALLY empty.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: iGenerator on August 25, 2012, 05:33:59 am
Quote from: FerrariKing458 on August 25, 2012, 05:25:19 am
Quote from: 5OO on August 25, 2012, 05:04:57 am
I became an operator to help the classic community by moderating the chat, banning griefers, undoing grief, getting rid of blockspam, teaching the commands to guests, reviewing guest builds etc. Without guests I am not really needed. Its been a little over 2 weeks since mojang changed the link to classic, and since then the number of guests have been dwindling. If classic continues to be empty I don't know how much longer I will stay here.

Woo! More time for SMP! Nah just messin with you, I finally made it onto classic for the first time today, it's pretty cool but REALLY empty.
you joined guest, go to recruit or builder even member there are builds there
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: gavin1928374655 on August 25, 2012, 01:00:05 pm
Quote from: 5OO on August 25, 2012, 05:04:57 am
I became an operator to help the classic community by moderating the chat, banning griefers, undoing grief, getting rid of blockspam, teaching the commands to guests, reviewing guest builds etc. Without guests I am not really needed. Its been a little over 2 weeks since mojang changed the link to classic, and since then the number of guests have been dwindling. If classic continues to be empty I don't know how much longer I will stay.
I feel a lot of ops are thinking this, I'm planning on staying as long as it is up. I have several awesome builds going on. You should get into building again 500
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Wyboth on August 25, 2012, 09:23:02 pm
Quote from: gavin1928374655 on August 25, 2012, 01:00:05 pm
Quote from: 5OO on August 25, 2012, 05:04:57 am
I became an operator to help the classic community by moderating the chat, banning griefers, undoing grief, getting rid of blockspam, teaching the commands to guests, reviewing guest builds etc. Without guests I am not really needed. Its been a little over 2 weeks since mojang changed the link to classic, and since then the number of guests have been dwindling. If classic continues to be empty I don't know how much longer I will stay.
I feel a lot of ops are thinking this, I'm planning on staying as long as it is up. I have several awesome builds going on. You should get into building again 500
Same with me, I'm not leaving until Classic gets shut down.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: clawstrider on August 26, 2012, 09:24:52 am
Quote from: Wyboth on August 17, 2012, 10:44:27 am
Several of you are forgetting an important fact: even if we did set up a classic-like Creative server, several people would not be able to join, since they do not own full minecraft. People like me would have to find a different classic server to play on, since I have no intention of buying it.

Out of interest, why do you refuse to buy it? I get it if you need some time to get the money sorted, or you wanted to trial it first, but I can't see a reason for never buying it.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Wyboth on August 27, 2012, 12:06:19 am
Quote from: clawstrider on August 26, 2012, 09:24:52 am
Quote from: Wyboth on August 17, 2012, 10:44:27 am
Several of you are forgetting an important fact: even if we did set up a classic-like Creative server, several people would not be able to join, since they do not own full minecraft. People like me would have to find a different classic server to play on, since I have no intention of buying it.

Out of interest, why do you refuse to buy it? I get it if you need some time to get the money sorted, or you wanted to trial it first, but I can't see a reason for never buying it.
I have tried full minecraft before on my friend's account, and I didn't like it. If I was to buy it, I would never use it, and it would be a waste of $20.
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: officiersmirnof on August 27, 2012, 10:19:36 am
a couple of weeks maybe 2 months ago there where to many guests for the guest world that we even needed older guest maps and what i think is that the server and classic wil turn like that again. (atleast i hope) and i wil stay to the very end
Title: Re: The server's future...
Post by: Kurseddragon on August 27, 2012, 02:08:29 pm
Starting school today so I'll know how much hw I'll have on average.

I actually dropped 3/5 AP classes... Lol.
I may have time to play randomly assuming the other classes aren't hw heavy.