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Title: PVP is now open!
Post by: Nick3306 on July 28, 2013, 03:10:52 am
IP: smp.opticraft.net

That's right folks, you read the title correctly, we have secretly been working on a few pvp arenas this past week and I am glad to say that we are done. Use /warp pvphub to get started!

Now have fun you bloodthirsty opticraft players!
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Redchecks on July 28, 2013, 03:11:36 am
Marvelous
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Holy_Moses on July 28, 2013, 03:12:35 am
Yay! No more PvP suggestions! *largest sigh of relief ever*
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: frobalt on July 28, 2013, 03:13:09 am
I think it would be worth noting that, if you die you lose your items.

I know it seems obvious, but by pointing it out you can stop people complaining (kinda like how McDonalds warns you that their coffee may be hot)
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Redchecks on July 28, 2013, 03:14:59 am
I think it would be worth noting that, if you die you lose your items.

I know it seems obvious, but by pointing it out you can stop people complaining (kinda like how McDonalds warns you that their coffee may be hot)
I'm pretty much 100% certain that'll be added
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: gavin1928374655 on July 28, 2013, 03:16:02 am
I think it would be worth noting that, if you die you lose your items.

I know it seems obvious, but by pointing it out you can stop people complaining (kinda like how McDonalds warns you that their coffee may be hot)
/gamerule Keepinventory true
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Saeberus on July 28, 2013, 03:17:47 am
Nah, items will be lost.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Redchecks on July 28, 2013, 03:18:10 am
I think it would be worth noting that, if you die you lose your items.

I know it seems obvious, but by pointing it out you can stop people complaining (kinda like how McDonalds warns you that their coffee may be hot)
/gamerule Keepinventory true
Fucking genius... Sigh
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: UnknownHedgehog on July 28, 2013, 03:19:11 am
You guys are gonna love the arenas.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on July 28, 2013, 03:23:21 am
You guys are gonna love the arenas.
If you're one of the ones that helped make the arena's, I'm sure.
The things you crafters made on classic blew my mind.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: gavin1928374655 on July 28, 2013, 03:23:43 am
Nah, items will be lost.
pvp is a great way to get new gear lol
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: XzTriggerHappyzX on July 28, 2013, 03:26:41 am
You sneaky little buggers :D can't wait see the finished product!!! Thank you!! :) :)
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: TheRealFamous on July 28, 2013, 03:29:05 am
Finally! cant wait to pwn noobs
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: hammysandwhich on July 28, 2013, 03:29:23 am
Sounds exciting! ::)
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: frobalt on July 28, 2013, 03:30:43 am
I think it would be worth noting that, if you die you lose your items.

I know it seems obvious, but by pointing it out you can stop people complaining (kinda like how McDonalds warns you that their coffee may be hot)
/gamerule Keepinventory true

Is that a generic command that applies for all deaths? Or is it a pvp related command that might not be added to the server?

I ask because Nick said:

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Due to the fact that nothing has been coded for pvp

So I figured that this sorta thing isn't part of the server code. At least, not yet.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on July 28, 2013, 03:31:38 am
You guys are gonna love the arenas.
That's why I saw you on the staff channel on Mumble! I knew something was up ;) Can't wait :)
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: XzTriggerHappyzX on July 28, 2013, 03:34:10 am
Can you release any small details about the different maps? Like: what themes, sizes or maybe even what items will be used? Or will we just have to wait and see? :D
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: TarynMai on July 28, 2013, 03:36:20 am
I think it would be worth noting that, if you die you lose your items.

I know it seems obvious, but by pointing it out you can stop people complaining (kinda like how McDonalds warns you that their coffee may be hot)
/gamerule Keepinventory true

Is that a generic command that applies for all deaths? Or is it a pvp related command that might not be added to the server?

I ask because Nick said:

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Due to the fact that nothing has been coded for pvp

So I figured that this sorta thing isn't part of the server code. At least, not yet.
As far as I know, there isnt going to be anything dealing with items and dying. If you die with your items, you lose your items.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Saeberus on July 28, 2013, 03:37:06 am
Finally! cant wait to pwn noobs
I predicted that someone would say that
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: UnknownHedgehog on July 28, 2013, 03:38:30 am
When you die you lose whatever items you have on you.
So ya.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: frobalt on July 28, 2013, 03:46:20 am

As far as I know, there isnt going to be anything dealing with items and dying. If you die with your items, you lose your items.

That's what I thought.

You'll inevitably get someone whining about lost items though, so it's probably better to warn in advance.

You'd still get people complaining about it, but at least then you could just say 'well, we did warn you about it'.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: TarynMai on July 28, 2013, 03:50:36 am

As far as I know, there isnt going to be anything dealing with items and dying. If you die with your items, you lose your items.

That's what I thought.

You'll inevitably get someone whining about lost items though, so it's probably better to warn in advance.

You'd still get people complaining about it, but at least then you could just say 'well, we did warn you about it'.
We'll warn as much as we can, but the complaints will happen regardless.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: andersad on July 28, 2013, 04:02:14 am
     Omg just saw this topic! I am EXTREMELY happy that Opti will have a form of pvp. I know this is a long shot, but I would've liked to help out  :D. I hope the arenas turn out well(I know they will). And I cant wait to see them.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Redchecks on July 28, 2013, 04:07:06 am
     Omg just saw this topic! I am EXTREMELY happy that Opti will have a form of pvp. I know this is a long shot, but I would've liked to help out  :D. I hope the arenas turn out well(I know they will). And I cant wait to see them.
Awwwwhhhhh c00t33
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: andersad on July 28, 2013, 04:27:21 am
    lolz  :P
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Pugabyte on July 28, 2013, 04:58:53 am
Nah, items will be lost.
pvp is a great way to get new gear lol

I'm gunna laugh so hard if you go in there with your best armour and die anyways, _Gavin.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: KevinNova on July 28, 2013, 05:09:00 am
Awesome! I can't wait! Finally no more pvp suggestions.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Gogar72 on July 28, 2013, 06:01:53 am
cant wait you people gunna lose¡!¡!
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Nhataley on July 28, 2013, 06:11:37 am
Yes! Thank you so much!! :D
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: benc117 on July 28, 2013, 07:58:20 am
Yay!!!
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Duinis on July 28, 2013, 10:17:43 am
I'm gonna go in there without anything and punch a guy in full diamond armour to death and steal his stuff, no matter how long it takes. That's gonna be my new Opticraft goal. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: jh2018 on July 28, 2013, 10:30:50 am
Cool! I'm working on a WWE Arena and ring, so maybe we could have pvp shows? I can show a video tour of the build, and see if you guys approve or not
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: daniblue182 on July 28, 2013, 10:56:46 am
Finally I have good use for my awesome swords ^_^
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: zxSM1FFYzx on July 28, 2013, 11:22:25 am
Well we should be greatful it's even coming! I know it has been asked for and ignored for so long but I put my hands together for this!
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: JLSLover123 on July 28, 2013, 12:10:27 pm
Thank god the whole server wont be PvP XD atleast now I know what to expect when I go to that world....
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Afro_ on July 28, 2013, 12:48:39 pm
YESYESYES Be affffraiddd everyone >:)
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: RuthlessTomato on July 28, 2013, 01:19:35 pm
"Secretly"
Anyway, great job, im pumped
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Afro_ on July 28, 2013, 01:30:16 pm
Darn, losing stuff. Could we make it into a mini-game? Like a limit of... say 6 people. They're put into a small chamber with a chest no one else is allowed in. They're allowed to put stuff in a chest, and keep stuff. If you've already made the arenas and have finished, I guess not. Excited! BTW any teaming? If yes, anyone team? I'm OK with a bow, just need a nice one.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: hennydeez on July 28, 2013, 01:38:24 pm
Darn, losing stuff. Could we make it into a mini-game? Like a limit of... say 6 people. They're put into a small chamber with a chest no one else is allowed in. They're allowed to put stuff in a chest, and keep stuff. If you've already made the arenas and have finished, I guess not. Excited! BTW any teaming? If yes, anyone team? I'm OK with a bow, just need a nice one.

These arenas aren't automated, so if you don't want to lose your stuff, store it or don't use it all. Simple as that.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Afro_ on July 28, 2013, 01:42:50 pm
(Just like tha hunga games- I dibs Peeta!) k
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: 2468avc on July 28, 2013, 01:56:34 pm
Is that the world Metropolis is in?
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Redchecks on July 28, 2013, 02:24:01 pm
Is that the world Metropolis is in?
It is where it is. That's all anyone needs to know
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: frobalt on July 28, 2013, 05:35:50 pm
Darn, losing stuff. Could we make it into a mini-game? Like a limit of... say 6 people. They're put into a small chamber with a chest no one else is allowed in. They're allowed to put stuff in a chest, and keep stuff. If you've already made the arenas and have finished, I guess not. Excited! BTW any teaming? If yes, anyone team? I'm OK with a bow, just need a nice one.

If you want to play PvP, don't take any items you want to lose in there.

Makes it hard though since you'll have to take at least some armour and a weapon to even remotely stand a chance.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Boshiwarrior on July 28, 2013, 06:43:13 pm
Thanks a lot makers/staff/others for making this! :D
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: mitchw426 on July 28, 2013, 09:55:05 pm
awesome but isn't there a rule saying no pvp! lol   ???
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Chief149 on July 28, 2013, 10:00:41 pm
I'm gonna go in there without anything and punch a guy in full diamond armour to death and steal his stuff, no matter how long it takes. That's gonna be my new Opticraft goal. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

My goal is to catch your head on fire with a flaming arrow

Hmm, maybe if I get better at plugin developement I might take a crack at making an open source pvp arena battle plugin once I finish my currently open project. Then again I also have redprotect to code and the player2player trade plugin I thought of a while back.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on July 28, 2013, 10:24:59 pm
awesome but isn't there a rule saying no pvp! lol   ???
It meant no killing other players by lava, destroying blocks under them that lead to death, or death traps
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Afro_ on July 29, 2013, 12:24:38 am
Is we able to break blocks? *Grins*
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Tobs on July 29, 2013, 12:27:26 am
Is we able to break blocks? *Grins*
No.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Afro_ on July 29, 2013, 12:30:40 am
Darn we isn't *Grin fades*

So when will the first PVP arena(s) be available?
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Holy_Moses on July 29, 2013, 01:09:18 am
Darn we isn't *Grin fades*

So when will the first PVP arena(s) be available?
soon
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Chief149 on July 29, 2013, 01:28:50 am
Ooh, is it that "metropolis" map that nobody can /warp or /home to?
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Kodak28 on July 29, 2013, 01:44:53 am
pvp is separate from metropolis
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Nick3306 on July 29, 2013, 03:14:30 am
Ooh, is it that "metropolis" map that nobody can /warp or /home to?
Nope, it will be the PVP map that nobody can /warp or /home too lol. Metropolis is just a city.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Pensfan121 on July 29, 2013, 03:23:34 am
Can't wait for this.....Have been waiting a long while. :D
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: CrazyGamer2000 on July 29, 2013, 05:27:20 am
Will you be able to take your items into here or will your items disappear as you enter this world and you will have
to get equipment from chests? Also if you create an alliance will you have to turn on them eventually or is there a way
for both of you to win? Will there be prizes awarded for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place? Finally, will you be able to bet on
PVP matches?
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: TarynMai on July 29, 2013, 05:29:51 am
You can take your own items in. There won't be equipment, and you can come and go in the arenas as you please. No prizes, and as far as I know there's nothing wrong with betting.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: shortgeorgeee on July 29, 2013, 08:54:45 am
Nah, items will be lost.

I like that idea - true pvp and its just a risk, you win some you loose some
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Afro_ on July 29, 2013, 12:22:20 pm
Team anyone?

And please!

NO FLYING/CREATIVE FOR STAFF OR ANY DISADVANTAGES!

And could we maybe at Nebula? Capture the Flag? Maybe PvP Spleef...
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Tobs on July 29, 2013, 01:08:32 pm
NO FLYING/CREATIVE FOR STAFF OR ANY DISADVANTAGES!

If any staff abuse their powers of godmode/flying etc. to kill or have an advantage over other players, as with other things that staff can do, it will cause a demotion. But I really think it goes without saying as staff are trusted with responsibilities already.

Capture the Flag? Maybe PvP Spleef...

Right now, as said before, it is only free for all PvP so no other gamemodes.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: 2468avc on July 29, 2013, 01:20:21 pm
Ooh, is it that "metropolis" map that nobody can /warp or /home to?
Nope, it will be the PVP map that nobody can /warp or /home too lol. Metropolis is just a city.

I really wanna see Metropolis. I once journeyed from memberworld spawn to try to get a glimpse, not realizing that the no access thing was everywhere, not just nick's /home.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Redchecks on July 29, 2013, 01:21:08 pm
Ooh, is it that "metropolis" map that nobody can /warp or /home to?
Nope, it will be the PVP map that nobody can /warp or /home too lol. Metropolis is just a city.

I really wanna see Metropolis. I once journeyed from memberworld spawn to try to get a glimpse, not realizing that the no access thing was everywhere, not just nick's /home.
It's for no one's eyes except the chosen ones.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Chief149 on July 29, 2013, 08:27:06 pm
Ooh, is it that "metropolis" map that nobody can /warp or /home to?
Nope, it will be the PVP map that nobody can /warp or /home too lol. Metropolis is just a city.

I really wanna see Metropolis. I once journeyed from memberworld spawn to try to get a glimpse, not realizing that the no access thing was everywhere, not just nick's /home.
It's for no one's eyes except the chosen ones.

Can I be a chosen one? I'd love to just look around. Don't wanna build or obstruct anything. I'd just like to see what's there. Maybe get some ideas. Could we at least get some screenies? Is this something that is going to become an addon to the server?
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Tobs on July 29, 2013, 09:01:59 pm
How about we stay on topic, we'll show screenshots of Metropolis if and when we are ready.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Nick3306 on July 29, 2013, 10:44:46 pm
Ooh, is it that "metropolis" map that nobody can /warp or /home to?
Nope, it will be the PVP map that nobody can /warp or /home too lol. Metropolis is just a city.

I really wanna see Metropolis. I once journeyed from memberworld spawn to try to get a glimpse, not realizing that the no access thing was everywhere, not just nick's /home.
It's for no one's eyes except the chosen ones.

Can I be a chosen one? I'd love to just look around. Don't wanna build or obstruct anything. I'd just like to see what's there. Maybe get some ideas. Could we at least get some screenies? Is this something that is going to become an addon to the server?
We cant give out too much info on it, we are currently hiding Edward Snowden there.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Holy_Moses on July 29, 2013, 10:58:02 pm
#TeamEdward
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on July 29, 2013, 11:54:52 pm
Ooh, is it that "metropolis" map that nobody can /warp or /home to?
Nope, it will be the PVP map that nobody can /warp or /home too lol. Metropolis is just a city.

I really wanna see Metropolis. I once journeyed from memberworld spawn to try to get a glimpse, not realizing that the no access thing was everywhere, not just nick's /home.
It's for no one's eyes except the chosen ones.

Can I be a chosen one? I'd love to just look around. Don't wanna build or obstruct anything. I'd just like to see what's there. Maybe get some ideas. Could we at least get some screenies? Is this something that is going to become an addon to the server?
We cant give out too much info on it, we are currently hiding Edward Snowden there.
I'm going to report you
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Saeberus on July 30, 2013, 12:14:05 am
Ooh, is it that "metropolis" map that nobody can /warp or /home to?
Nope, it will be the PVP map that nobody can /warp or /home too lol. Metropolis is just a city.

I really wanna see Metropolis. I once journeyed from memberworld spawn to try to get a glimpse, not realizing that the no access thing was everywhere, not just nick's /home.
It's for no one's eyes except the chosen ones.

Can I be a chosen one? I'd love to just look around. Don't wanna build or obstruct anything. I'd just like to see what's there. Maybe get some ideas. Could we at least get some screenies? Is this something that is going to become an addon to the server?
We cant give out too much info on it, we are currently hiding Edward Snowden there.
Everyone calm down. Nothing is going on here. Straight outta Russia.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Booorad on July 30, 2013, 02:44:09 am
you da boss nick this is going to be sick!
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Afro_ on July 30, 2013, 04:21:59 am
Demotion? I think that's a little harsh...


And OKAY, I guess not for now...
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: TarynMai on July 30, 2013, 04:33:39 am
Demotion? I think that's a little harsh...


And OKAY, I guess not for now...
Would you rather mods cheating and killing you, without you even getting a chance?
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: frobalt on July 30, 2013, 04:48:00 am
Ooh, is it that "metropolis" map that nobody can /warp or /home to?
Nope, it will be the PVP map that nobody can /warp or /home too lol. Metropolis is just a city.

I really wanna see Metropolis. I once journeyed from memberworld spawn to try to get a glimpse, not realizing that the no access thing was everywhere, not just nick's /home.
It's for no one's eyes except the chosen ones.

Can I be a chosen one? I'd love to just look around. Don't wanna build or obstruct anything. I'd just like to see what's there. Maybe get some ideas. Could we at least get some screenies? Is this something that is going to become an addon to the server?
We cant give out too much info on it, we are currently hiding Edward Snowden there.

How long before the CIA come rooting in the server? I wonder... xD
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: clawstrider on July 30, 2013, 06:40:23 am
Demotion? I think that's a little harsh...


And OKAY, I guess not for now...
Would you rather mods cheating and killing you, without you even getting a chance?

I see no problems there...

Nah, as a rule, any staff power abuse is pretty much worthy of demotion.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Freekkiller on July 30, 2013, 02:49:55 pm
PVP!!! YEAH! Holy crap, finally!
I have been waiting for this for months! Thank you so much Nick and Opti and whoever else helped <3
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: ViperZeroOne on July 30, 2013, 03:21:30 pm
Congrats to those who've been waiting for PVP to be added!

You'll never find me there, but I'm sure those who do go will have a lot of fun!
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: CrazyGamer2000 on July 30, 2013, 03:58:28 pm
Will there be hostile mobs in the arenas and/or death traps like lava pits? I hope the arenas come out soon.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Redchecks on July 30, 2013, 04:08:18 pm
Will there be hostile mobs in the arenas and/or death traps like lava pits? I hope the arenas come out soon.
You'll find out when you play
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Chief149 on July 30, 2013, 05:24:39 pm
I hope there aren't hidden death traps that kill us out of nowhere. I'd be fine with deathtraps that are noticeable, and hostile mobs. Just not hidden traps.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Nick3306 on July 30, 2013, 10:27:04 pm
I hope there aren't hidden death traps that kill us out of nowhere. I'd be fine with deathtraps that are noticeable, and hostile mobs. Just not hidden traps.
Don't worry, death will be plentiful but you will never just get killed out of nowhere.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Afro_ on July 31, 2013, 02:20:55 pm
OKAY, are there traps that just decrease your hp?
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Holy_Moses on July 31, 2013, 03:11:09 pm
OKAY, are there traps that just decrease your hp?
OKAY, how about we keep the maps a surprise and stop asking questions!
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Weirauch on July 31, 2013, 03:55:40 pm
Oh. I will come from the shadows.  Bow in hand.  And smack you with it.  My new goal is to beat someone to death with a bow
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Kodak28 on July 31, 2013, 04:08:59 pm
and now we get to see just how messed up and psychopathic everyone on the server is as people are overly thrilled with the idea of murder and come up with plenty of morbid ways to kill people
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Holy_Moses on July 31, 2013, 05:38:00 pm
and now we get to see just how messed up and psychopathic everyone on the server is as people are overly thrilled with the idea of murder and come up with plenty of morbid ways to kill people
That is possibly the darkest way to look at this.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: andersad on July 31, 2013, 09:32:48 pm
        You're missing the point dude.... Pvp means Pvp IS allowed in Pvp Areas...  :P
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Chief149 on July 31, 2013, 10:14:57 pm
Oh. I will come from the shadows.  Bow in hand.  And smack you with it.  My new goal is to beat someone to death with a bow

I will use a fishing rod, fish you up to the upper levels of one of the PVP areas, and then beat you to death with a feather XD
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Afro_ on August 01, 2013, 04:51:12 am
Lol. Is there a spectating deck?
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: hennydeez on August 01, 2013, 04:53:44 am
Lol. Is there a spectating deck?

You're asking too many questions, just be patient and see for yourself. I'm starting to think you're using this thread to increase your post count.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on August 01, 2013, 11:14:58 am
and now we get to see just how messed up and psychopathic everyone on the server is as people are overly thrilled with the idea of murder and come up with plenty of morbid ways to kill people
My brother does this in real life (not joking he is morbid :()
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Kascas on August 01, 2013, 11:50:42 am
and now we get to see just how messed up and psychopathic everyone on the server is as people are overly thrilled with the idea of murder and come up with plenty of morbid ways to kill people
Its just the gender kodak. Men just like to be stronger then other men. best way to show that off is to fight each other.
This makes us like violent games involving lotsa murder etc.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: frogsrock12 on August 01, 2013, 05:01:52 pm
I'm so excited, I've been waiting months for this to happen! Will this be more of a hunger games arena or just plain pvp?
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Nick3306 on August 01, 2013, 06:03:35 pm
I'm so excited, I've been waiting months for this to happen! Will this be more of a hunger games arena or just plain pvp?
Read my post.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: JLSLover123 on August 01, 2013, 11:09:32 pm
Finally I have good use for my awesome swords ^_^

Hmm?the sword I gave you for the dragon egg is it ._.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: UNKNOWN0701 on August 02, 2013, 01:31:55 am
Hi its UNKNOWN0701 from your server.About the arenas I like the idea but i have two questions, one is that what happends when someone wins the arena and i am board alot in this server so  i cinda want to make one if thats ok. Remeber this is UNKNOWN0701 from your server   :)
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: TarynMai on August 02, 2013, 01:40:48 am
When you win, you win, thats it. And we have plenty of arenas, but thanks.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: daniblue182 on August 02, 2013, 07:06:54 am
Finally I have good use for my awesome swords ^_^

Hmm?the sword I gave you for the dragon egg is it ._.

Ah no that died ages ago D:
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: zwaan111 on August 02, 2013, 08:02:38 am
will you get an instant kill if you log in combat, because its quite anoying if the one who you are fighting can get away in that way.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: DeeKay on August 02, 2013, 08:08:38 am
STOP ASKING QUESTIONS
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: UnknownHedgehog on August 02, 2013, 12:26:36 pm
You guys will see what it's all like when it comes out, so don't worry about it.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: RuthlessTomato on August 02, 2013, 04:46:16 pm
You guys will see what it's all like when it comes out, so don't worry about it.
but we wanna see it NOW!
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: JLSLover123 on August 03, 2013, 11:47:53 am
Stop being so impatient....
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Sugna on August 06, 2013, 08:14:30 am
Stop being so impatient....

no.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: JLSLover123 on August 06, 2013, 08:36:21 pm
As UnknownHedgeHog Said you will see it when it comes out.And It will come out soon enough so stop being so impatient.
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Chief149 on August 07, 2013, 01:32:31 am
I'm so anxious for the pvp maps, I'm practically doing somersaults with my arms twisted around my head like a shinigami that hasn't had any apples for a month.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Nick3306 on August 07, 2013, 06:16:50 pm
The pvp world is now open boys and girls, have fun killing each other!
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on August 07, 2013, 06:47:00 pm
The pvp world is now open boys and girls, have fun killing each other!
;)
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: frobalt on August 07, 2013, 06:50:04 pm
The pvp world is now open boys and girls, have fun killing each other!

Managed to get my first kill then fled before the second guy could kill me :P
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on August 07, 2013, 07:04:59 pm
Sweet, thanks nick!
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Saeberus on August 07, 2013, 07:11:29 pm
Purrfect! Waiting any longer would have caused a catastrophe
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: UnknownHedgehog on August 07, 2013, 07:24:11 pm
Hope you guys like the arenas.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Tobs on August 07, 2013, 07:27:54 pm
A lot of fun (for some)
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Redchecks on August 07, 2013, 07:29:01 pm
MAAARvelous
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: gavin1928374655 on August 07, 2013, 08:55:22 pm
A lot of fun (for some)
(click to show/hide)
Ikr d00d

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Tobs on August 07, 2013, 08:57:25 pm
A lot of fun (for some)
(click to show/hide)
Ikr d00d

(click to show/hide)
Exaclty, I was having too much fun that I fell in. Sorry that I fell on you gavin...
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: iGenerator on August 07, 2013, 08:58:23 pm
All the arenas look really good, great job everyone!
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on August 07, 2013, 09:31:05 pm
Hope you guys like the arenas.
They are amazing :) Thanks everyone
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Angelsrage21 on August 07, 2013, 10:04:49 pm
yay pvp!   :D
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Boshiwarrior on August 08, 2013, 02:34:21 pm
There are already ragequiets so it is going fantastic! Good job workers on it!
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: frogsrock12 on August 08, 2013, 08:58:20 pm
Yayyyyy!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: SalsaInABowl on August 08, 2013, 10:12:36 pm
In the future, it would be nice to have an arena where we get a standard loadout (Full iron armor + sword and bow) so that if people don't want to lose items they go there. Plus results in a lot less rage.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on August 08, 2013, 11:40:07 pm
In the future, it would be nice to have an arena where we get a standard loadout (Full iron armor + sword and bow) so that if people don't want to lose items they go there. Plus results in a lot less rage.
Nice idea
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: 2468avc on August 09, 2013, 12:11:07 am
It would be cool if you could apply for plots in the pvp world to make your own arenas- ik that nick has said that all arenas would be owned by the server, but I think that DIYing arenas could be a fun build.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: UnknownHedgehog on August 09, 2013, 12:20:48 am
Here's a list of the arenas and the people who built them:


Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: gavin1928374655 on August 09, 2013, 03:44:59 am
so after being intitially butthurt i came back on and had some fun. the arenas are well done
(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNTnHvIJ.png&hash=034466a87684c448b8a7fa0bd8ca317f)
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Nick3306 on August 09, 2013, 04:09:54 am
In the future, it would be nice to have an arena where we get a standard loadout (Full iron armor + sword and bow) so that if people don't want to lose items they go there. Plus results in a lot less rage.
I would like to but there is no way for me to do this without some sort of coding.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: morgosin on August 09, 2013, 05:09:20 am
I've used a plugin on my server that allowed you to have set items. I forget what its called right off the bat but its not hard to set up, from what i've heard. Its just part of the config file, you can specify armor kits and weapons.

Its similar to Mob areana, spleef areana, and the paintball plugin.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: clawstrider on August 09, 2013, 07:19:55 am
In the future, it would be nice to have an arena where we get a standard loadout (Full iron armor + sword and bow) so that if people don't want to lose items they go there. Plus results in a lot less rage.
I would like to but there is no way for me to do this without some sort of coding.

It's possible to do that with command blocks, as far as I understand.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: raul7legend on August 09, 2013, 09:01:36 am
I've used a plugin on my server that allowed you to have set items. I forget what its called right off the bat but its not hard to set up, from what i've heard. Its just part of the config file, you can specify armor kits and weapons.

Its similar to Mob areana, spleef areana, and the paintball plugin.
If there is any sort of coding, optical wants to code it himself. All of the plugins are coded by optical because he's afraid of backdoors (we had a few problems with backdoors) which means optical has to take a look at the plugin and code it himself. This takes a lot of effort and time, and sometimes we don't have effort or time.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Gogar72 on August 09, 2013, 09:51:15 am
TRUE me and salsa are thinking of ways that we could do it...not much you can though.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: iGenerator on August 09, 2013, 03:34:14 pm
In the future, it would be nice to have an arena where we get a standard loadout (Full iron armor + sword and bow) so that if people don't want to lose items they go there. Plus results in a lot less rage.
I would like to but there is no way for me to do this without some sort of coding.

It's possible to do that with command blocks, as far as I understand.
According to what I've heard, no one can use command blocks on the server in its current state.  Including Opticalza
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Nick3306 on August 09, 2013, 03:50:04 pm
In the future, it would be nice to have an arena where we get a standard loadout (Full iron armor + sword and bow) so that if people don't want to lose items they go there. Plus results in a lot less rage.
I would like to but there is no way for me to do this without some sort of coding.

It's possible to do that with command blocks, as far as I understand.
According to what I've heard, no one can use command blocks on the server in its current state.  Including Opticalza
Correct, they are entirely disabled on the server. Plus people would just get armor over and over again then take it back into the regular worlds.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Coolcrab88 on August 09, 2013, 06:59:45 pm
People would just get armor over and over again then take it back into the regular worlds.

Really? On some servers there's a plugin that makes it so you can use different inventories in different worlds. Like if you go to regular Guest/ Member/ Old Guest then you'll have your average inventory, when you go to PvP World then you'll have, a full set of armour, tools and food. I'm pretty sure that's what happens on regular PvP servers that have customized arenas.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Nick3306 on August 09, 2013, 07:04:43 pm
People would just get armor over and over again then take it back into the regular worlds.

Really? On some servers there's a plugin that makes it so you can use different inventories in different worlds. Like if you go to regular Guest/ Member/ Old Guest then you'll have your average inventory, when you go to PvP World then you'll have, a full set of armour, tools and food. I'm pretty sure that's what happens on regular PvP servers that have customized arenas.
Like I said, I cant do it without any coding.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Coolcrab88 on August 09, 2013, 07:13:58 pm
People would just get armor over and over again then take it back into the regular worlds.

Really? On some servers there's a plugin that makes it so you can use different inventories in different worlds. Like if you go to regular Guest/ Member/ Old Guest then you'll have your average inventory, when you go to PvP World then you'll have, a full set of armour, tools and food. I'm pretty sure that's what happens on regular PvP servers that have customized arenas.
Like I said, I cant do it without any coding.

Why not code?
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Nick3306 on August 09, 2013, 07:16:36 pm
People would just get armor over and over again then take it back into the regular worlds.

Really? On some servers there's a plugin that makes it so you can use different inventories in different worlds. Like if you go to regular Guest/ Member/ Old Guest then you'll have your average inventory, when you go to PvP World then you'll have, a full set of armour, tools and food. I'm pretty sure that's what happens on regular PvP servers that have customized arenas.
Like I said, I cant do it without any coding.

Why not code?
Because there is no one to do it.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Coolcrab88 on August 09, 2013, 07:17:43 pm
People would just get armor over and over again then take it back into the regular worlds.

Really? On some servers there's a plugin that makes it so you can use different inventories in different worlds. Like if you go to regular Guest/ Member/ Old Guest then you'll have your average inventory, when you go to PvP World then you'll have, a full set of armour, tools and food. I'm pretty sure that's what happens on regular PvP servers that have customized arenas.
Like I said, I cant do it without any coding.

Why not code?
Because there is no one to do it.

Can't you?
Title: Re: PVP coming soon!
Post by: Sade66 on August 09, 2013, 07:21:04 pm
I think it would be worth noting that, if you die you lose your items.

I know it seems obvious, but by pointing it out you can stop people complaining (kinda like how McDonalds warns you that their coffee may be hot)
/gamerule Keepinventory true

KeepInventory isn't allowed
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Nick3306 on August 09, 2013, 07:23:06 pm
People would just get armor over and over again then take it back into the regular worlds.

Really? On some servers there's a plugin that makes it so you can use different inventories in different worlds. Like if you go to regular Guest/ Member/ Old Guest then you'll have your average inventory, when you go to PvP World then you'll have, a full set of armour, tools and food. I'm pretty sure that's what happens on regular PvP servers that have customized arenas.
Like I said, I cant do it without any coding.

Why not code?
Because there is no one to do it.

Can't you?
If I could, i wouldn't have said there is no one to do it now would I?
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Coolcrab88 on August 09, 2013, 07:36:34 pm
People would just get armor over and over again then take it back into the regular worlds.

Really? On some servers there's a plugin that makes it so you can use different inventories in different worlds. Like if you go to regular Guest/ Member/ Old Guest then you'll have your average inventory, when you go to PvP World then you'll have, a full set of armour, tools and food. I'm pretty sure that's what happens on regular PvP servers that have customized arenas.
Like I said, I cant do it without any coding.

Why not code?
Because there is no one to do it.

Can't you?
If I could, i wouldn't have said there is no one to do it now would I?

Okay whatever. ._.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: SalsaInABowl on August 09, 2013, 10:16:41 pm
People would just get armor over and over again then take it back into the regular worlds.

Really? On some servers there's a plugin that makes it so you can use different inventories in different worlds. Like if you go to regular Guest/ Member/ Old Guest then you'll have your average inventory, when you go to PvP World then you'll have, a full set of armour, tools and food. I'm pretty sure that's what happens on regular PvP servers that have customized arenas.
Like I said, I cant do it without any coding.

Why not code?
Because there is no one to do it.

Can't you?
If I could, i wouldn't have said there is no one to do it now would I?

Where is cschurz anyways?
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Nick3306 on August 09, 2013, 11:03:37 pm
People would just get armor over and over again then take it back into the regular worlds.

Really? On some servers there's a plugin that makes it so you can use different inventories in different worlds. Like if you go to regular Guest/ Member/ Old Guest then you'll have your average inventory, when you go to PvP World then you'll have, a full set of armour, tools and food. I'm pretty sure that's what happens on regular PvP servers that have customized arenas.
Like I said, I cant do it without any coding.

Why not code?
Because there is no one to do it.

Can't you?
If I could, i wouldn't have said there is no one to do it now would I?

Where is cschurz anyways?
he has a life.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: SalsaInABowl on August 10, 2013, 01:04:38 am
That's understandable.

Anyways, two days later and there are already rage topics

"PVP IS SUPER UNFAIR!!!"
"Staff keep flying in godmode and teaming!"

Flashback 1 year ago...

Add PvP
PvP
Opticraft needs PvP
Adding PvP to Opticraft
New rank
PvP on Opticraft
Opticraft should get PvP
New plugin

(This is what the suggestions board used to look like)
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Nick3306 on August 10, 2013, 01:08:36 am
That's understandable.

Anyways, two days later and there are already rage topics

"PVP IS SUPER UNFAIR!!!"
"Staff keep flying in godmode and teaming!"

Flashback 1 year ago...

Add PvP
PvP
Opticraft needs PvP
Adding PvP to Opticraft
New rank
PvP on Opticraft
Opticraft should get PvP
New plugin

(This is what the suggestions board used to look like)
If there is one thing that i have learned doing, it is that we cant win no matter what. Just have to make the best of what we can.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: RuthlessTomato on August 10, 2013, 01:11:06 am
Yeah, its impossible to please everyone.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Afro_ on August 11, 2013, 06:23:40 am
Yeah, its impossible to please everyone.

Why? Everyone oikes different things

And I'd like to propose a toast to:

Nick3306
Saeberus
Redchecks
kodak28
And our favorite pointy hedgehog, UnkownHedgeHog
*Raises Glass*

Unadvantage to Trusteds, Guests, Members, and most mods-

 Ops+ Have creative! Meaning they can use anvils to enchant weapons with books, etc. Just a heads up- Beware of them.

 
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on August 11, 2013, 07:42:18 am
Ops+ Have creative! Meaning they can use anvils to enchant weapons with books, etc. Just a heads up- Beware of them.
They are not going to spawn in books and use creative to enchant them without needing exp.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: TarynMai on August 11, 2013, 08:04:45 am
Ops+ Have creative! Meaning they can use anvils to enchant weapons with books, etc. Just a heads up- Beware of them.
As we've told everyone who says we're using creative, we're not. Not once have any of us spawned in any items, used creative, or done anything that would be considered cheating. We're playing fair. The armor and enchants we have are legitimate, and we've worked hard for what we use.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Chipaton on August 11, 2013, 08:06:01 am
Ops+ Have creative! Meaning they can use anvils to enchant weapons with books, etc. Just a heads up- Beware of them.
As we've told everyone who says we're using creative, we're not. Not once have any of us spawned in any items, used creative, or done anything that would be considered cheating. We're playing fair. The armor and enchants we have are legitimate, and we've worked hard for what we use.
I dont know Alicia, you seem pretty sketchy to me.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: frobalt on August 11, 2013, 11:23:18 am

 Ops+ Have creative! Meaning they can use anvils to enchant weapons with books, etc. Just a heads up- Beware of them.

 

I've seen stated a couple of times already that mods using their powers to cheat is an instant demotion.

I believe that would apply in those circumstances.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Afro_ on August 11, 2013, 12:10:09 pm
Ops+ Have creative! Meaning they can use anvils to enchant weapons with books, etc. Just a heads up- Beware of them.
As we've told everyone who says we're using creative, we're not. Not once have any of us spawned in any items, used creative, or done anything that would be considered cheating. We're playing fair. The armor and enchants we have are legitimate, and we've worked hard for what we use.

Really. Does Powertool count?
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: DeeKay on August 11, 2013, 01:00:58 pm
Ops+ Have creative! Meaning they can use anvils to enchant weapons with books, etc. Just a heads up- Beware of them.
As we've told everyone who says we're using creative, we're not. Not once have any of us spawned in any items, used creative, or done anything that would be considered cheating. We're playing fair. The armor and enchants we have are legitimate, and we've worked hard for what we use.
Really. Does Powertool count?
Word of advice, If you're concerned staff members have unfair advantages, take it to an Admin. Posting your concerns here will do you no good, and only causes arguments.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Afro_ on August 11, 2013, 01:26:52 pm
/Powertool spawnmob giant

click click click click click

teehee
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Tobs on August 11, 2013, 01:33:21 pm
Ops+ Have creative! Meaning they can use anvils to enchant weapons with books, etc. Just a heads up- Beware of them.
As we've told everyone who says we're using creative, we're not. Not once have any of us spawned in any items, used creative, or done anything that would be considered cheating. We're playing fair. The armor and enchants we have are legitimate, and we've worked hard for what we use.

Really. Does Powertool count?
We don't have powertool, I don't see how hard it is to understand this unless you just want to post useless stuff. ANY staff using their powers to get an unfair advantage over others in PVP in ANY way, directly or not, is a demotion (be it spawning items, godmode etc.). As I've said before, I haven't seen any issues so far and as DK said bring these issues to an Admin.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: gavin1928374655 on August 11, 2013, 03:23:05 pm
/Powertool spawnmob giant

click click click click click

teehee
congrats, you just ripped off cshurz.



/powertool spawnmob giant

click click click click click

teehee
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Zeradeth_ on August 11, 2013, 03:34:16 pm
Ops+ Have creative! Meaning they can use anvils to enchant weapons with books, etc. Just a heads up- Beware of them.
As we've told everyone who says we're using creative, we're not. Not once have any of us spawned in any items, used creative, or done anything that would be considered cheating. We're playing fair. The armor and enchants we have are legitimate, and we've worked hard for what we use.

Really. Does Powertool count?

Afro, ops do not use anything that Trusteds and below have access to. The only reason they have access to creative is to aid people in-game. For example, when protection stones crap out. Stop trying to start something. Ops aren't cheating, nor will they ever start.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: FNVcourierjon(SigilStone) on August 11, 2013, 03:57:02 pm
Ops+ Have creative! Meaning they can use anvils to enchant weapons with books, etc. Just a heads up- Beware of them.
As we've told everyone who says we're using creative, we're not. Not once have any of us spawned in any items, used creative, or done anything that would be considered cheating. We're playing fair. The armor and enchants we have are legitimate, and we've worked hard for what we use.

Really. Does Powertool count?

Afro, ops do not use anything that Trusteds and below have access to. The only reason they have access to creative is to aid people in-game. For example, when protection stones crap out. Stop trying to start something. Ops aren't cheating, nor will they ever start.
He's just trying to boost his post count. 
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: frobalt on August 11, 2013, 04:22:28 pm
/Powertool spawnmob giant

click click click click click

teehee
congrats, you just ripped off cshurz.



/powertool spawnmob giant

click click click click click

teehee

It's impressive that you remembered about the post he ripped off.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: 2468avc on August 11, 2013, 05:07:31 pm
It's impressive that you found it, but he only remembered because it was someone's sig for a really long time.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: RuthlessTomato on August 11, 2013, 08:48:29 pm
It's impressive that you found it, but he only remembered because it was someone's sig for a really long time.
it was salsa until like april. Not that long ago. :P
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Chipaton on August 13, 2013, 04:59:19 am
A reminder for staff: Please do NOT abuse powers in PvP. Invisibility, godmode, flying, and using kit items are all considered abuse.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: TarynMai on August 13, 2013, 05:01:01 am
A reminder for staff: Please do NOT abuse powers in PvP. Invisibility, godmode, flying, and using kit items are all considered abuse.
Yes thank you for telling us what we already know and have been told multiple times. And as I've said multiple times, we dont abuse anything.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Chipaton on August 13, 2013, 05:06:49 am
A reminder for staff: Please do NOT abuse powers in PvP. Invisibility, godmode, flying, and using kit items are all considered abuse.
Yes thank you for telling us what we already know and have been told multiple times. And as I've said multiple times, we dont abuse anything.
Considering it has happened to me multiple times, I would figure that it needed to be said again.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: TarynMai on August 13, 2013, 05:09:16 am
A reminder for staff: Please do NOT abuse powers in PvP. Invisibility, godmode, flying, and using kit items are all considered abuse.
Yes thank you for telling us what we already know and have been told multiple times. And as I've said multiple times, we dont abuse anything.
Considering it has happened to me multiple times, I would figure that it needed to be said again.
I promise you, we havent abused anything. Did you ever think that we worked for what we had and played fairly? I feel like you're upset because you died, and assume we cheated.
Title: Re: PVP is now open!
Post by: Chief149 on August 13, 2013, 06:02:29 am
Every single one of us knows that OPs aren't cheating. If you got killed, then stop being butthurt about it and stay out of the pvp arenas. You're just accusing staff of cheating because they have enchanted stuff that is very strong. I could get just as good armor and weapons if I spent the time enchanting and gaining exp levels. Im sure they did it legitimately.


Here's how I know those who complain about staff having god mode are just butthurts: You people won't stay out of the arenas. You all know who's in the arena before you warp into it since you are in a glass box near the arena. And if they were actually cheating, you all would stay away from those arenas knowing that there's no hope. Yet you all keep trying to kill these "gods"

This is exactly the kind of thing people were worried about with pvp being implemented. Idiots who don't know how to fight, trying to fight, and then losing, so they accuse everyone else of cheating. If you are one of those idiots, stop posting, and stay out of the arenas.