Opticraft Community
Discussion forum => Legacy => Archives => General Discussion => Topic started by: ZazzMaster on June 02, 2013, 03:13:18 am
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My trusted rank was taken away because I supposedly griefed 7 blocks of buddahboy's house. I did not do this. Either my account was logged on to by someone else, or the staff is wrong. And even if i did greif seven blocks, the staff needs to understand that they cant lower a guys rank because they greifed 7 blocks. and btw, if i did, it would have been accidental.Then, they wouldn't even let me see the place I supposedly griefed because I was using minechat. They got so pissed off at me. First of all, how are us people supposed to know this. Second of all, I've never abused it, yet they acted like I just killed somebody.i say that the staff needs to loosen up,vibe cause I've never heard a server to be able to use minechat. It can't do anything bad. I demand my rank back because what the staff did was stupid.
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And even if i did greif seven blocks, the staff needs to understand that they cant lower a guys rank because they greifed 7 blocks.
That my friend is where you are wrong.
And minechat is not allowed, you were asked nicely a few times to stop using it and you refused so you were kicked.
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I kept asking them to tell me something about the greif, but igen went right on to kick me, before doing his job to satisfie the needs of the player, which would be me
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I kept asking them to tell me something about the greif, but igen went right on to kick me, before doing his job to satisfie the needs of the player, which would be me
So let me get this straight. You refused to follow the rules because you wanted to know about the accusations of you breaking other rules? Doesn't seem like the best way to try to show that you follow rules.
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Look, if ur staff can't prove themselves that I griefed, then y should I sit around waiting for them to complain to me about stuff. U have to remember that the mods aren't FBI agents, they're justngamers that should be there to help out.
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Ur right. So nick, no offense, but the staff is a just a bit tight on this server. They need to b told to be more open to questions, comments, and apologies. That would make this server alot more fun for everyone, don't u think?
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Look, if ur staff can't prove themselves that I griefed, then y should I sit around waiting for them to complain to me about stuff. U have to remember that the mods aren't FBI agents, they're justngamers that should be there to help out.
I sure they can prove it, but when you were asking them to you were using minechat which is not allowed. Next time actually get in game.
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I had no access to my computer at the moment. And I play ur server every day, so don't get mad because I wasn't on. Just enable minechat, every other server lets us use it. And as I said, even if I were on my pc, the staff would probably whew me off anyway because they think they're so great and they're to cool to do they're job
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I had no access to my computer at the moment. And I play ur server every day, so don't get mad because I wasn't on. Just enable minechat, every other server lets us use it. And as I said, even if I were on my pc, the staff would probably whew me off anyway because they think they're so great and they're to cool to do they're job
No one was mad that you weren't on, minechat is not allowed end of story. Don't like it, then you can leave.
By the way, throwing in jabs about our staff will not get you trusted back. I know you can be frustrated with this situation but i expect more maturity than what you are showing in this thread.
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Look buddy, ur the one who's frustrated, and ur staff isn't mature either by going ban ban ban left and right. Think of it like this: if someone in real life is accused off killing someone, then the police bring them to court befor arresting them. Ur staff needs to do that by letting people speak for themselves.
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As nick just said, throwing in jabs about the staff won't get you trusted back.
Even if you did not grief as a person, your account did. Your account is your own responsibilty. We don't accept "my brother did it" excuses. The staff are NOT uptight at all compared to most servers. If you hate the staff that much then just leave.. Angrily and immaturely creating this topic to yell at staff to give you trusted back is an unnessecary move. You could just politely ask what you did wrong and ask for it back rather than raging like an angry 10 year old kid.
I don't think you know what "trusted" means. It's people that follow the rules. You my friend broke one of the many golden rules on Opticraft. Do not grief. The staff has more than a valid reason to demote you.
Just my two cents.
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Look buddy, ur the one who's frustrated, and ur staff isn't mature either by going ban ban ban left and right. Think of it like this: if someone in real life is accused off killing someone, then the police bring them to court befor arresting them. Ur staff needs to do that by letting people speak for themselves.
Yes compare griefing on a game to murder, smart move.
No one is stopping you from speaking for yourself you just cant use minechat to do so. Stop trying to turn this into something it is not. Just use the forums or the minecraft client then you can speak for yourself.
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Trust me liekabowse, this server has the most uptight staff yet. And ur telling me to leave, we'll let me tell u something. I really like opticraft as a server, and I enjoy playing it, but I guess it has to be ruined by the staff. So sad.
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Trust me liekabowse, this server has the most uptight staff yet. And ur telling me to leave, we'll let me tell u something. I really like opticraft as a server, and I enjoy playing it, but I guess it has to be ruined by the staff. So sad.
I made the rule that does not allow minechat, they are simply following rules like they are supposed to do.
The funny thing about this is that you are not even arguing your first point anymore because you have already realized you are wrong. Instead you have turned this into a thread where you can bitch about the staff. Grow up.
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Fine, lets get back to that. U would really take a guys rank away because he griefed what... Like 7 blocks? And u can't even let me explain myself.
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Then again if you couldn't get in-game just use IRC
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Hey salas, u just gave me a thought. Nick, tell me the difference between irc and minechat
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Hey salas, u just gave me a thought. Nick, tell me the difference between irc and minechat
Your attempt at arguing with someone who clearly dominates you on every aspect of the multiple questions you've asked is blatantly stupid. You lost, move on.
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Hey salas, u just gave me a thought. Nick, tell me the difference between irc and minechat
Whatever the differences may be you need to follow the rules.
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Davioo, shut up.
Salas, my point is that if IOC is allowed, then y isn't minechat?
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Fine, lets get back to that. U would really take a guys rank away because he griefed what... Like 7 blocks? And u can't even let me explain myself.
Yes I would. Regardless of how many blocks it was, at one point you thought it was ok to grief. That doesn't sound very trustworthy to me...
IRC is allowed because you don't actually log into the server. Before asking that question please read up on what irc actually is.
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The heck, I never said briefing was ok, but my point is, u people need to learn to forgive
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The heck, I never said briefing was ok, but my point is, u people need to learn to forgive
You didn't even apoligize at any time.
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The heck, I never said briefing was ok, but my point is, u people need to learn to forgive
We do forgive, that is why you aren't banned forever. There is a difference between forgiving and not trusting you. Once you grief the trust is lost, which is why you lose the trusted rank.
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Best part is, you weren't even banned. Technically you could have been, so I don't see the whole "ban ban ban" thing you are talking about. Why not act mature and actually try and get your rank back?
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I will apologize, it's just when the staff were too pissed to let me speak, I really didn't feel they had much respect for me at that moment, so I didn't think it was neccesary. But now i will. I'm sorry for griefing buddahboy and I will separately apologize to him and help him with his next project
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Yay! Happy ending!
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Not really, I'm still left sad and untrusted for something so little.
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You'll get trusted back when we feel you deserve it back.
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If you really want your trusted back calling the staff uptight and saying we ruin the server isn't the best way to go considering staff are the ones that make you trusted... not a smart move if I'm honest
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i griefed 1 block and got my trusted back within a few days (yes i griefed, less than you did but it is still grief). I feel like if i made a topic like this i wouldnt have gotten re-promoted for a year. All of what your saying is actually hurting your chances of getting retrusted, so essentially you asking for your rank back has put you at less of a stance of getting it back anyway. Funny how that works...
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Your trusted rank can be removed when you are banned. The rank is as its name suggests, a moderator and/or operator trusted you enough to recommend you be promoted. It is also possible that the staff member who found grief made by your account was also the one who recommended you be promoted.
Using any mods other than Optifine is not allowed. Another means of communication with staff on the game is IRC - I would suggest you look into that.
You are correct about one thing, the staff are just regular players, but these players have been trusted with responsibility to remove griefers, flamers, spammers, advertisers, hackers, illegal modded clients, handle ban appeals, raging children, and so much more...
Just a fun fact.. No one "deserves" respect, they "earn" respect.
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I do have a couple questions:
If _gavin got banned for his grief (and demoted), then why didn't Zazz? I mean, we're talking two offences that are no more than 6 blocks different in magnitude. _gavin and Zazz, two trusted players who at some point grief 1 to 7 blocks. Both get demoted, but only _gavin gets banned. From my point of view, this seems unfair.
Why is MineChat not allowed? I don't see what is so bad about MineChat just because you log on to the server when you use minechat.
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Alpha, all the is and mods have earned respect from the other players, but just like u said, most have not earned respect from me. And everyone else, I will get my rank back. Look at it like this: some staff like 2crzy have more bans than I, and the 1 that have have was a misunderstanding... So, if 2crzy has more bans than me, and he's an op, I should have no problem getting trusted.
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Alpha, all the is and mods have earned respect from the other players, but just like u said, most have not earned respect from me. And everyone else, I will get my rank back. Look at it like this: some staff like 2crzy have more bans than I, and the 1 that have have was a misunderstanding... So, if 2crzy has more bans than me, and he's an op, I should have no problem getting trusted.
2crzy also is mature and doesnt have a topic about 20 reasons why he hates smp staff
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I will apologize, it's just when the staff were too pissed to let me speak, I really didn't feel they had much respect for me at that moment, so I didn't think it was neccesary. But now i will. I'm sorry for griefing buddahboy and I will separately apologize to him and help him with his next project
This must mean that the issue is resolved. Since this post is morphing into an argument, I'll go ahead and lock this.