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Title: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Relkeb on May 02, 2011, 03:00:39 am
Felt like being the first to say, the news and government have just confirmed that Osama Bin Laden has been killed by Navy SEALSa bomb. They recovered his body and confirmed it was him.

Edit: Not a bomb, thats what the news was saying before Obama made his speech.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Flight21 on May 02, 2011, 03:13:11 am
PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!! We can leave now!
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Relkeb on May 02, 2011, 03:21:48 am
PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!! We can leave now!

Unfortunately I don't think that is what is going to happen... This will most likely cause more tension between the Al Qaeda and the US as the terrorist organization will probably want revenge for this. Shit just got real!
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Nick3306 on May 02, 2011, 04:06:16 am
There is one thing you all should know, whenever a guy like this dies, there is always someone more than ready to take his place. This isn't over, not by a longshot.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: SpikeyThorn on May 02, 2011, 10:22:30 am
bye a bomb??? Obama said on tv it was in a fire fight between the cia .... My whole family believes pakistan to have been hiding him as he was found 100 meters from a pakistan army barraks... Its a military family :D most have been to fight in iraq or afgan :-\
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Nick3306 on May 02, 2011, 10:59:24 am
He was shot in a firefight after we sent in a group of american soldiers (most likely the SEALs or delta force) when the packistan government found out he was living there.

EDIT: The pentagon confirmed it was an operation by a Navy SEAL team.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: raul7legend on May 02, 2011, 12:08:56 pm
We have won the battle, not the war.

 - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that bin Laden's death was a "resounding triumph for democratic nations fighting terrorism."

The war won't be over untill we win the terrorists.
Good luck to the marines of USA.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: SpikeyThorn on May 02, 2011, 12:11:46 pm
achem raul.... What about our troops in the uk .....
And nick... Obama announced it was the cia
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Relkeb on May 02, 2011, 01:25:00 pm
bye a bomb??? Obama said on tv it was in a fire fight between the cia .... My whole family believes pakistan to have been hiding him as he was found 100 meters from a pakistan army barraks... Its a military family :D most have been to fight in iraq or afgan :-\

Sorry, false infromation. I posted this before Obama did his speech, the news report was saying it was a bomb.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: apij4125 on May 02, 2011, 05:28:10 pm
Cia&Navy seals
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Ocaniti on May 02, 2011, 06:24:36 pm
0.o same day May 1, 1945 Germany announced Hitler was dead.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: davioo on May 02, 2011, 08:01:40 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V0ISgosTlQ&feature=relmfu heres the speech :P
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: turtleman918 on May 02, 2011, 08:43:39 pm
When the seals went in, they documented offering for him to go with them peacefully, he refused, they shot him. He was shot along with one of his son's, one of his wives, and two couriers. He was given traditional Islamic rites, and was "buried at sea" (they threw him in the ocean!). There was DNA confirmation that it IS in fact Osama Bin Laden  that was killed.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: SpikeyThorn on May 02, 2011, 09:14:09 pm
i believe its also holocaust day nin israel.....
Can u imagine finding binladen u-"sir... Come with me" bin-"no"u-"ok"*shoots binladen in the face with a m4oa3 bolt action standard 7.67 nato round*  aftermath = ...... Awkward...... Aftern the nerdy gun spec speach...
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Nick3306 on May 02, 2011, 09:21:34 pm
i believe its also holocaust day nin israel.....
Can u imagine finding binladen u-"sir... Come with me" bin-"no"u-"ok"*shoots binladen in the face with a m4oa3 bolt action standard 7.67 nato round*  aftermath = ...... Awkward...... Aftern the nerdy gun spec speach...
5.56x45mm is the standard NATO round, and the M4 isnt bolt action, it uses a gas piston.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Mr.Monkey on May 02, 2011, 11:24:15 pm
Srsly guys, you play too many fps games -.- The war on terror will never be over as there will always be causes to be fought for. Al-Qa'ida will probably never get as powerful as it was now that their big leader is gone, but now the fight for a new leader will begin. There are probably loads of higher ranked Al-Qa'ida officers that want to prove they are worthy by blowing up something. There might be a little dip in their activity short-term, but there's a big chance the death of Osama will only make things worse on the long-term.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Nick3306 on May 02, 2011, 11:46:21 pm
Srsly guys, you play too many fps games -.- The war on terror will never be over as there will always be causes to be fought for. Al-Qa'ida will probably never get as powerful as it was now that their big leader is gone, but now the fight for a new leader will begin. There are probably loads of higher ranked Al-Qa'ida officers that want to prove they are worthy by blowing up something. There might be a little dip in their activity short-term, but there's a big chance the death of Osama will only make things worse on the long-term.
No one said it was over. In fact, me, relkeb, and raul said the exact same thing you did, just with less words.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Relkeb on May 02, 2011, 11:48:22 pm
I am still having a tough time believing whether or not he was in fact killed. I have lots of trouble believing the American government with things they tell the public, and unless there is physical proof such as videos, pictures, or even the DNA test results, I can't be positive.

I really want to believe he was killed, but its bothering me that the government acted so quickly to dispose of his body (yes I know it is according to Muslim tradition). But I do not believe that a man who could cause so much strife in the world should be given a proper burial, not unless every man, woman and child who died at his hand gets one too.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Nick3306 on May 02, 2011, 11:53:00 pm
I am still having a tough time believing whether or not he was in fact killed. I have lots of trouble believing the American government with things they tell the public, and unless there is physical proof such as videos, pictures, or even the DNA test results, I can't be positive.

I really want to believe he was killed, but its bothering me that the government acted so quickly to dispose of his body (yes I know it is according to Muslim tradition). But I do not believe that a man who could cause so much strife in the world should be given a proper burial, not unless every man, woman and child who died at his hand gets one too.
I thought the same but then i remembered that the trail went cold a while ago. It's not like the american people were upset at the government cause they couldnt find him. Hell, no one in the US was expecting us to find him. So there isnt really a reason for the government to lie about it.

Plus the Pakistani government confirmed he was killed. Packistan does not like the US and would not go along with a massive lie.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Mr.Monkey on May 03, 2011, 12:02:38 am
It could be the same as with Afghanistan having weapons of mass destruction, which they didn't. Personally I think Osama has died couple years ago, for he was quite actively sending tapes out until '07, then he suddenly went silent, which is quite weird in my eyes. Also I remember the way they found Saddam Hussain, there were tapes of how they got him out of that hole. If Bin Laden was really 'captured' there should surely be a tape of it. Also, hot topic or not, the fact that he was killed will probably give Obama a better chance at a re-election.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Nick3306 on May 03, 2011, 12:10:18 am
It could be the same as with Afghanistan having weapons of mass destruction, which they didn't. Personally I think Osama has died couple years ago, for he was quite actively sending tapes out until '07, then he suddenly went silent, which is quite weird in my eyes. Also I remember the way they found Saddam Hussain, there were tapes of how they got him out of that hole. If Bin Laden was really 'captured' there should surely be a tape of it. Also, hot topic or not, the fact that he was killed will probably give Obama a better chance at a re-election.
1st of all, in the iraq case (not afghanistan) everyone told us there were no WMD's there. In this case every source is confirming his death

2nd of all, Do you really think the SEALs tape their missions? If a tape does come out it will have to have been from someone like an informant. You have to remember, the army found Saddam, the SEALs on the other hand go on covert missions, i doubt they would tape any of that.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: apij4125 on May 03, 2011, 10:16:57 pm
One funny fact, If you check out the FBI most wanted you will see osama bin laden still on it. But then deceased in the picture :P
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on May 03, 2011, 11:21:51 pm
One funny fact, If you check out the FBI most wanted you will see osama bin laden still on it. But then deceased in the picture :P
He's not dead then. Obama is lying to us. (not really I don't know :/)
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Nick3306 on May 03, 2011, 11:37:38 pm
One funny fact, If you check out the FBI most wanted you will see osama bin laden still on it. But then deceased in the picture :P
He's not dead then. Obama is lying to us. (not really I don't know :/)
Ya those pictures of him after they shot him were easily photoshoped  ::)
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on May 03, 2011, 11:39:34 pm
One funny fact, If you check out the FBI most wanted you will see osama bin laden still on it. But then deceased in the picture :P
He's not dead then. Obama is lying to us. (not really I don't know :/)
Ya those pictures of him after they shot him were easily photoshoped  ::)
What pictures... I have a video proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUb3e7VhccM&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_297728
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Relkeb on May 04, 2011, 02:16:27 am
Here's what Nick is talking about: http://publicintelligence.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/fake-osama-dead1.jpg

Also, US officials are preparing to release evidence because of the extreme skepticism from both Americans and the middle east (as well as the rest of the world).

Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on May 04, 2011, 04:25:41 am
Here's what Nick is talking about: http://publicintelligence.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/fake-osama-dead1.jpg

Also, US officials are preparing to release evidence because of the extreme skepticism from both Americans and the middle east (as well as the rest of the world).
Oh yeah, that could be photoshoped, easily, same mouth shape, same posotion and everything.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Nick3306 on May 04, 2011, 06:58:12 pm
The white house decided not to release the photos to the public.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: corourke70 on May 04, 2011, 07:15:09 pm
He is definitely dead. If he wasn't dead then Osama would have already put out videos about how the US is lying to look good. Osama would definitely make us look like shit if he wasn't really killed.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Relkeb on May 04, 2011, 07:44:13 pm
I'm sure some day the photos/videos will be leaked.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: SpikeyThorn on May 04, 2011, 07:56:45 pm
It could be the same as with Afghanistan having weapons of mass destruction, which they didn't. Personally I think Osama has died couple years ago, for he was quite actively sending tapes out until '07, then he suddenly went silent, which is quite weird in my eyes. Also I remember the way they found Saddam Hussain, there were tapes of how they got him out of that hole. If Bin Laden was really 'captured' there should surely be a tape of it. Also, hot topic or not, the fact that he was killed will probably give Obama a better chance at a re-election.
Well to be honest the americans would have pumped him so full of lead i dont think a video would be good for there rep...(Aparrently they gave him the choice to come peacefully )
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Violentwinds on May 04, 2011, 08:01:00 pm
Amazing how many spelled pakistan wrong.

Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Nick3306 on May 05, 2011, 01:08:49 am
The white house said the photos are so gruesome that it may cause further backlash.
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Post by: Ocaniti on May 06, 2011, 01:30:21 am
The white house said the photos are so gruesome that it may cause further backlash.

WTH gruesome??!!??!!?? This is gruesome...(https://www.opticraft.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moonbattery.com%2Froseanne_barr_national_anthem.jpg&hash=949c8a7d6a347d0bb2efbd8cc986e06b)
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Nick3306 on May 06, 2011, 01:33:16 am
No. Seeing someone who has multiple gunshot wounds to their face is gruesome.
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Post by: Flight21 on May 06, 2011, 02:02:50 am
As gruesome as it may be, it needs to be shown. If they don't like what they see, they don't have to look.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Silenttheend on May 06, 2011, 02:06:28 am
true media has expozed far worse
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Nick3306 on May 06, 2011, 02:20:08 am
As gruesome as it may be, it needs to be shown. If they don't like what they see, they don't have to look.
But it could cause an even worse retaliation. What if your best friend was killed, and then they decided to release the photos of him after he was shot. You would not like it very much. (in this analogy bin laden is al-qaeda's best friend)
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: raul7legend on May 06, 2011, 04:44:33 am
As gruesome as it may be, it needs to be shown. If they don't like what they see, they don't have to look.
But it could cause an even worse retaliation. What if your best friend was killed, and then they decided to release the photos of him after he was shot. You would not like it very much. (in this analogy bin laden is al-qaeda's best friend)
Not only that, also Osama is part of the Ben Laden family, a rich family that owns a gas pump and are very close to the Saudi royal family.

I'm not sure his family wants to see his death.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Mr.Monkey on May 06, 2011, 11:13:49 am
Then they should not watch it either... Also I don't understand why there should be need of 'multiple gunshots in the face'. Just a nice clean execution in the neck could have been sufficient, or puncture his longs, so he feels the terrible pain of choking in his own blood.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: raul7legend on May 06, 2011, 01:51:05 pm
Then they should not watch it either... Also I don't understand why there should be need of 'multiple gunshots in the face'. Just a nice clean execution in the neck could have been sufficient, or puncture his longs, so he feels the terrible pain of choking in his own blood.
Well the gunshots were the quickest way to kill him when they saw him, since they were on helicopters, they couldn't get down to slit his throat since it would make a battle in the place where he lived.

I'm also skeptic about the fact that they killed him around these days, but I'm sure he's dead by now.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Nick3306 on May 06, 2011, 05:33:16 pm
The seals shot bin laden multiple times after he refused to go peacefully and ran toward a wall which had multiple weapons on it.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Relkeb on May 07, 2011, 03:39:18 am
Once in the chest, once in the head. The chest shot stops him, the head shot neutralizes him.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Mr_Mr_Mr on May 07, 2011, 05:57:43 am
Once in the chest, once in the head. The chest shot stops him, the head shot neutralizes him.
Dang, I wanna see some pictures.
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: SpikeyThorn on May 08, 2011, 01:10:34 am
The seals shot bin laden multiple times after he refused to go peacefully and ran toward a wall which had multiple weapons on it.
mmm was that guns or bomb jackets XD
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: marshytheman on May 22, 2011, 09:22:30 pm
Hurrah! goo SEAL's
Title: Re: Osama Bin Laden is dead
Post by: Ramkitty on May 24, 2011, 06:20:10 am
I think its great that hes dead but lots of countrys need to be on high alert for the retaliation that will come from al qeada. We cannot under estimate them look what happened before :/