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Title: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: 24kGold on May 13, 2012, 06:48:26 am
Looking to build a ridiculous PC. Starting with an Intel i7 Extreme & AMD Radeon 7970 (7990 when it drops, too.) I'd like to over-clock, xfire, all that noise. Drop me a PM with an Amazon cart link full of a dream set up or NewEgg links pref with great motherboards and other parts for this type of set up. Keep in mind some of this is alien to me as I have been out of the PC building game since '98.

I know I'll get questions regarding what I plan to do. Well, I'm not running the International Space Station. I know I can build a midrange PC that would run extremely well. I know I may not even use the full processing speed of an i7 Extreme, but the point is to make a ridiculous rig with ridiculous parts for a ridiculous good time. Mostly vidja games. I'm sure a lot of you can relate. :)
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: Nick3306 on May 13, 2012, 05:48:10 pm
So are you planning to actually buy this or no?
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: 24kGold on May 13, 2012, 07:53:36 pm
Yes, I am planning to buy.

I was having issues editing my last post.

Anyway, I'd definitely like to invest in a good machine.  Minus display, keyboard, mouse, and speakers. I'd like to begin with the i7 Extreme, two Radeon 7970s in crossfire, 16gb ram, 1tb hd, 128gb (or so) ssd. I welcome recommendations on a power supply, motherboard, and cooling system. Off the top, I'm assuming this is all that's needed. I am planning to run several displays in order to run several programs running as well as a main one in front of me.

This is my research leading up to the purchase to find the parts, with advice and opinions from you guys, and where to find the best price.

Fixed -Wrat
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: Nick3306 on May 14, 2012, 03:22:34 am
That is a painful waste of money my friend.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: 24kGold on May 14, 2012, 03:48:35 am
And why is that?


One sentence posts are awesome. Please elaborate.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: Nick3306 on May 14, 2012, 03:53:16 am
And why is that?


One sentence posts are awesome. Please elaborate.

Because it is complete overkill. There is absolutely no reason to have all of that stuff, especially the i7 extreme, not to mention the 16gb of ram.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: 24kGold on May 14, 2012, 03:59:04 am
Your first sentenced just answered it. Of course it's over kill. That. Is. The. Point. Again, I know I will not* utilize the entire processing speed. Go big or get out. And remember how fast technology changes, invest now and it's good for a bit. To you, there may not be a reason, but to say "there's absolutely no reason" is actually ridiculous. Should everything have it's limitations? Should you always get what is just good enough?

And btw, you think 16gb is overkill--there's one user who has 32gb over ram. I forgot his name, but he gets on mumble often.

Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: Nick3306 on May 14, 2012, 04:09:33 am
For people like me, there is no reason to have something that powerful, mostly because spending $3k on a computer that wont play games any better than a $900 computer for the next 3 years is pretty much a waste. Sure when technology advances you will need it, but by that time, the prices would have dropped a ton.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: 24kGold on May 14, 2012, 04:19:39 am
Three years is a pretty far out estimate. Maybe it wouldn't run solely the video game any better, but it'd sure do a lot better doing several things at once. And when the technology does advance again, there will be something more powerful that would barely bat an eyelash at some of the required processing power to run software at that time. Sometimes you just have to go big or get out. Modesty is a great virtue, but there's nothing wrong with eating a little steak and saving the ground beef for another day. Pick you day.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: bantam2 on May 14, 2012, 04:35:36 am
Buy a Mac.  ;D
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: 24kGold on May 14, 2012, 04:37:26 am
I actually own and play Minecraft on a Mac. lol, d'oh! :)
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: Alpha_Lance on May 14, 2012, 05:35:19 am
your better off just buying an E-Machines Windows 7/Alienware Windows 7 or a Windows XP/2000 and replace the graphics card with a 7800 or a bit higher.

You can still do everything you want, but you rarely need 7 things running at the same time anyway unless majority is scripts, music, IE or whatever explorer program you use, and whatever game your looking to play.

And even having all that up at the same time barely does squat to your pc.

Your looking at $600-$700 if not less now a days for what I just suggested.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: 24kGold on May 14, 2012, 05:44:53 am
The Alienware idea is actually a good one. Buying a built PC and upgrading is actually a good idea in general. I'll be looking into that, also.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: SalasCraft on May 14, 2012, 06:19:03 am
Stay away from AlienWare.

Youtube that piece of crap and most of the owners say it has an 85% crash rate.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: TarynMai on May 14, 2012, 06:21:52 am
I dunno, my brother just got an alienwire, and he says it works pretty well.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: 24kGold on May 14, 2012, 06:37:55 am
You know, I hear about 50/50 reviews. I'll have to look up the youtube videos, though. Most things I hear is you're paying for the name or it's gone bad since Dell purchased the company. My buddy has an Alienware laptop and I was pretty impressed with it's performance. Although I do think he upgraded it somewhere, I don't remember what part exactly.
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Post by: raul7legend on May 14, 2012, 08:20:17 am
If you're going to spend that much money on the computer at least use the computer and not just play minecraft :p
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: 24kGold on May 14, 2012, 09:17:31 am
I'm not going to just play Minecraft. lol

Diablo III drops in a couple of days. :)

I'd love to play Skyrim again. I played it on PS3, before it completely bugged out on me. I was looking at some of the mods they've made it for it, and wow! Looks like more fun.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: Hasan (Tabooti) on May 14, 2012, 01:07:52 pm
I've heard alien wares are good, but just a complete ripoff, If you're going to buy your own parts, I've heard its best to get them off the company that makes them directly (not even sure if it's possible) But it'd be pretty fun playing games with 0 lag. After all it's all entertainment money ;)

I have near no experience with how any of these parts work, or how they compete with each other. But I'd suggest finding a one of those forums that specialize in guides and what not.

I think you'd get a LOT more help here. http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/ (Found it in a quick google search, seems decent enough)

This is probably the board you're looking for. http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/forum/27-system-building-and-upgrading/

anyways good luck, and be sure to post your new computer in the picture's thread (The computer version!)
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: acegdl007 on May 14, 2012, 04:32:24 pm
I'm not going to rag on you for spending crazy money.  It's like building and driving a hot-rod of a car.  Why do that when you can drive where ever you are going in a basic 4-door Toyota?  Same goes for computers.

I built my own PC... a very modest i3 machine that's not really designed for gaming at all, then I built a home media server.  When you do it, you learn a lot about how they work.  You know where to look when things go wrong down the road.  And you get everything exactly as you want it.  It's fun too!

With a computer that powerful though... you may want to think about what else you can use it for other than gaming.  There are lots of possibilities.

Good luck... I'll share any resources as I come across them.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: Nick3306 on May 14, 2012, 04:35:45 pm
Dont buy alienware, you will end up spending almost twice as much as if you built it yourself.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: 24kGold on May 14, 2012, 04:46:15 pm
A man should never worry about how another man spends his money. Nobody should worry about what the next is doing. You said it correctly, why buy a hot rod when you can drive around a Toyota beater? That's what makes the world great, is free will to choose what you want.

Of course one vehicle gets you from A to B, the hot rod can do it faster.

Does the man in the Corvette have to drive like he's in a drag race or does he realize he has the power and can just chill?

If everyone went with the "just good enough" attitude, the world would be a helluva lot boring. Variety is the spice of life.

To clarify, I'm not going to be just playing minecraft. I can see that assumption as the forum we're on, but I assure you I will do my hardest to make that machine stutter for a bit. It will get much use. 
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: Nick3306 on May 14, 2012, 05:30:21 pm
I am not worrying how you spend your money, I am just informing you that you will be paying a ton of extra money because of the name. I honestly dont care if you waste your money, I am only here to inform you that there are better options if you wanted to spend less.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: 24kGold on May 14, 2012, 05:34:52 pm
That post was for acegdl.

Waste is such a interesting word applied here. One man's waste is another man's treasure. I'm full of pseudo-phillosophical sayings. I blame being around fighters who admire Bruce Lee.

I honestly don't think I plan on getting an Alienware, and will mostly like opt to build it from the ground up, and I do welcome & appreciate suggestions.
Title: Re: Help me build a PC!:)
Post by: ANTIKOYKOY on May 18, 2012, 10:11:21 am
I'd say buy the parts and built it yourself:
1. You can combine whatever you like.
2. Its much cheaper than buying a premade.

About the performance thingy, i have to say that i made my pc 2-3 years ago with stuff not so new ( nvidia gtx 260 winxp sp3 intel core2 duo @ 3+ ( overclocked) 750hdd 4gig ram) and i can still play games like crysis 2 and CoD at ultrya graphics without paying much.