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Discussion forum => Offtopic => Topic started by: Spartan on September 25, 2011, 04:17:07 am
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I was going through my works storage when I came across a bunch of computers. Most of them were 6 to 7 years old, but one was around 1 year old. So I picked it up and took it home to run some tests.
Turns out inside it theres:
intel i7 core processer, 8 cores, 2.8GHZ
12GB Ram
Only downside is that it has Windows Server 2008 which neither I nor anyone at my work has used ever, and we probably dont have a use for a server.
So ill ask you guys, should I leave Windows server 2008, get windows 7, or any other OS?
I also took some pics for proof, since SOME people probably wont believe me >.>
Computer Properties
http://i.imgur.com/8n5eC.png
Pic showing the 8 cores
http://i.imgur.com/FzrCN.png
Pic showing the actual computer/workstation
http://i.imgur.com/XUoE3.jpg
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So your work lets u go through their storage and take whatever you want?
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So your work lets u go through their storage and take whatever you want?
If you're just here to criticize and not be contributive to the thread, dont even post ;) and yes, my work lets me go through their storage. Also, I asked my boss to take it home and check it out. ;)
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So your work lets u go through their storage and take whatever you want?
If you're just here to criticize and not be contributive to the thread, dont even post
So we cant make something clear and be curious?
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You could learn to use the current OS as it seems it was built for it. Then again if you want to use it you could get windows 7.
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Overclock that beast! I have the same chip running at 3.8ghz. Just don't try to do it with the stock cooler :D
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Oh, and the i7's are hyper-threaded quad-core. That's why Windows sees it as 8-core.
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Oh, and the i7's are hyper-threaded quad-core. That's why Windows sees it as 8-core.
I was gonna get one of them but instead i went for i5 which is quad core but has no hyper threading. ah well, at least it has turbo boost.
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windows 7 :)
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Get Windows 7, then send it to me? ;)
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Really beast..
I have 2 suggestions..
OR Windows 7, or Linux and do your things..:P
Or a 3rd, Wait for Windows 8 that boot in 8''..:)
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Fine, you want me to contribute spartan? Well it seems whoever set up that computer intended to use it as either a server or was using it for rendering, not an at home desktop. And like lumin said, it doesnt have 8 cores it has 4 with hyperthreading. If you want to use it as a desktop to play games you wont need to overclock it since the clock speeds are already enough to max out pretty much every game on the market. Does it have a gpu in it? Also if you are just going to use it for games you could sell some of that ram.
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Also if you are just going to use it for games you could sell some of that ram.
Why? 12 Gb isn't that much.
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Also if you are just going to use it for games you could sell some of that ram.
Why? 12 Gb isn't that much.
No video game to date uses more than 4gb of ram.
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But what if you have other applications in the background. When i have minecraft running with other things I use 6-7gb of RAM.
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But what if you have other applications in the background. When i have minecraft running with other things I use 6-7gb of RAM.
I can run both minecraft's (beta and classic) plus amplitude 3 (guitar amp sim) at the same time with no problems what so ever with 4GB of ram, and thats not counting things i always have open like itunes and steam.
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But what if you have other applications in the background. When i have minecraft running with other things I use 6-7gb of RAM.
I can run both minecraft's (beta and classic) plus amplitude 3 (guitar amp sim) at the same time with no problems what so ever with 4GB of ram, and thats not counting things i always have open like itunes and steam.
RAM isn't my problem, it's not my CPU, because I only use up 30% with 50% to spare (running other programs too) and I still lag, I'm thinking it might be my graphics card or my processor.
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But what if you have other applications in the background. When i have minecraft running with other things I use 6-7gb of RAM.
I can run both minecraft's (beta and classic) plus amplitude 3 (guitar amp sim) at the same time with no problems what so ever with 4GB of ram, and thats not counting things i always have open like itunes and steam.
Well i have Xcode, spottily, iTunes, Finder Mail, SysPref, Safari, App store running so that why i need more. The worts thing is antivirus software. i have 8gb but i want 16gb. This wold be for hosting servers. Its the video RAM that lets me down, 1/2 a gb
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But what if you have other applications in the background. When i have minecraft running with other things I use 6-7gb of RAM.
I can run both minecraft's (beta and classic) plus amplitude 3 (guitar amp sim) at the same time with no problems what so ever with 4GB of ram, and thats not counting things i always have open like itunes and steam.
Well i have Xcode, spottily, iTunes, Finder Mail, SysPref, Safari, App store running so that why i need more. The worts thing is antivirus software. i have 8gb but i want 16gb. This wold be for hosting servers. Its the video RAM that lets me down, 1/2 a gb
With all of my programs running i have about 70% memory usage. So there is no way you are using that much ram for those small programs. Then again im not sure about macs.
And video ram has a very small role in how fast or powerful your video card is, more video ram =/= a faster card. 512mb of video ram should be fine as long as you aren't using a monitor bigger than 22 inches.
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But what if you have other applications in the background. When i have minecraft running with other things I use 6-7gb of RAM.
I can run both minecraft's (beta and classic) plus amplitude 3 (guitar amp sim) at the same time with no problems what so ever with 4GB of ram, and thats not counting things i always have open like itunes and steam.
Well i have Xcode, spottily, iTunes, Finder Mail, SysPref, Safari, App store running so that why i need more. The worts thing is antivirus software. i have 8gb but i want 16gb. This wold be for hosting servers. Its the video RAM that lets me down, 1/2 a gb
With all of my programs running i have about 70% memory usage. So there is no way you are using that much ram for those small programs. Then again im not sure about macs.
And video ram has a very small role in how fast or powerful your video card is, more video ram =/= a faster card. 512mb of video ram should be fine as long as you aren't using a monitor bigger than 22 inches.
I mean with the 2 minecrafts in the background. Also Xcode is pretty RAM intensive, as far as i know.
And i am using a 21.5 inch LED backlit with 1920x1080 pixels.
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But what if you have other applications in the background. When i have minecraft running with other things I use 6-7gb of RAM.
I can run both minecraft's (beta and classic) plus amplitude 3 (guitar amp sim) at the same time with no problems what so ever with 4GB of ram, and thats not counting things i always have open like itunes and steam.
Well i have Xcode, spottily, iTunes, Finder Mail, SysPref, Safari, App store running so that why i need more. The worts thing is antivirus software. i have 8gb but i want 16gb. This wold be for hosting servers. Its the video RAM that lets me down, 1/2 a gb
With all of my programs running i have about 70% memory usage. So there is no way you are using that much ram for those small programs. Then again im not sure about macs.
And video ram has a very small role in how fast or powerful your video card is, more video ram =/= a faster card. 512mb of video ram should be fine as long as you aren't using a monitor bigger than 22 inches.
I mean with the 2 minecrafts in the background. Also Xcode is pretty RAM intensive, as far as i know.
And i am using a 21.5 inch LED backlit with 1920x1080 pixels.
My apology, for some reason i completely forgot that 22inch monitors can be 1080. Anyway, ya if you are running at 1080 it is good to have 1gb video ram.
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I think im probably going to go with 7. I already got the copy, just need to install it now.
And of course im updating to Windows 8 when it comes out!
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But what if you have other applications in the background. When i have minecraft running with other things I use 6-7gb of RAM.
I can run both minecraft's (beta and classic) plus amplitude 3 (guitar amp sim) at the same time with no problems what so ever with 4GB of ram, and thats not counting things i always have open like itunes and steam.
Well i have Xcode, spottily, iTunes, Finder Mail, SysPref, Safari, App store running so that why i need more. The worts thing is antivirus software. i have 8gb but i want 16gb. This wold be for hosting servers. Its the video RAM that lets me down, 1/2 a gb
With all of my programs running i have about 70% memory usage. So there is no way you are using that much ram for those small programs. Then again im not sure about macs.
And video ram has a very small role in how fast or powerful your video card is, more video ram =/= a faster card. 512mb of video ram should be fine as long as you aren't using a monitor bigger than 22 inches.
I mean with the 2 minecrafts in the background. Also Xcode is pretty RAM intensive, as far as i know.
And i am using a 21.5 inch LED backlit with 1920x1080 pixels.
My apology, for some reason i completely forgot that 22inch monitors can be 1080. Anyway, ya if you are running at 1080 it is good to have 1gb video ram.
There's not much I can do about the graphics, unless I use a different resolution in SysPref which I don't wanna do :(
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But what if you have other applications in the background. When i have minecraft running with other things I use 6-7gb of RAM.
I can run both minecraft's (beta and classic) plus amplitude 3 (guitar amp sim) at the same time with no problems what so ever with 4GB of ram, and thats not counting things i always have open like itunes and steam.
Well i have Xcode, spottily, iTunes, Finder Mail, SysPref, Safari, App store running so that why i need more. The worts thing is antivirus software. i have 8gb but i want 16gb. This wold be for hosting servers. Its the video RAM that lets me down, 1/2 a gb
With all of my programs running i have about 70% memory usage. So there is no way you are using that much ram for those small programs. Then again im not sure about macs.
And video ram has a very small role in how fast or powerful your video card is, more video ram =/= a faster card. 512mb of video ram should be fine as long as you aren't using a monitor bigger than 22 inches.
I mean with the 2 minecrafts in the background. Also Xcode is pretty RAM intensive, as far as i know.
And i am using a 21.5 inch LED backlit with 1920x1080 pixels.
My apology, for some reason i completely forgot that 22inch monitors can be 1080. Anyway, ya if you are running at 1080 it is good to have 1gb video ram.
There's not much I can do about the graphics, unless I use a different resolution in SysPref which I don't wanna do :(
Oh ya you have a mac lol. I could just replace it.
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I have a mac but i havent started apple development yet.
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Everyone makes a big deal about speedboost on the i5-i7s but it's kind of pointless imo. All it does is temporarily raise the clock multiplier by one on a single core.
And while it's true that games aren't particularly CPU heavy, there are still big performance gains to get from overlocking. And the i7 is soooo easy to overclock, it's a massive waste of potential to leave it running as-is. I went from 2.8 to 3.8 ghz with only the slightest increase of voltages... and even on true 100% load running linx (linx, not linux) my temps never exceeded 65c.
As for RAM, more is always better. Assuming it's triple channel and actually configured to run at a decent speed. You'd be surprised how many people spend big bucks on 1600mhz overclocker memory just to run it at 800mhz because they assumed their computer would auto-configure it lol.
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Finally, NIck did you decide what you will do with that monster of RAM and leopard of CPU?
Everyone went out of topic..:P
Could you return to see your choice?
Thank you.
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Dude that computer is serious overkill...
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is it yours now? if it is just sell it on ebay.
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is it yours now? if it is just sell it on ebay.
Ehh i dont like selling on ebay. I always get way less than what i want. If I sold it, i'd sell it locally.
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is it yours now? if it is just sell it on ebay.
Ehh i dont like selling on ebay. I always get way less than what i want. If I sold it, i'd sell it locally.
yeah,
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As for RAM, more is always better. Assuming it's triple channel and actually configured to run at a decent speed. You'd be surprised how many people spend big bucks on 1600mhz overclocker memory just to run it at 800mhz because they assumed their computer would auto-configure it lol.
More might be better but it certainly is not worth the money.
I'm sure u can get a big performance gain from overclocking, but if your CPU will run a game over 60fps without overclocking, there really is no point to do it. You also have to take into account that not everyone knows how to overclock and not everyone has an aftermarket cpu cooler.
To this day, if i was going to build a computer again, i would still go with a phenom II. While it is not nearly as good as an i5 or i7 (especially sandy bridge), when you overclock it, it will max out any game. (amd actually set the world record for stable overclock with a phenom II (7.1ghz) then broke it with their new line of cpu's called bulldozer (8.428ghz)
It is more wise to spend money on a gpu than a cpu since most high end cpus are just overkill.
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Anyone know what a good price would be for it, if I were to sell it?
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Anyone know what a good price would be for it, if I were to sell it?
That depends, what GPU does it have?
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Ummm... looks like GTX 295
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If its a gtx 295 (which you should make sure lol) It is an older card but still a pretty damn good card. It is actually 2 gpu's in a single card.
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If its a gtx 295 (which you should make sure lol) It is an older card but still a pretty damn good card. It is actually 2 gpu's in a single card.
Yea, definately a gtx 295. Know how much it should go for?
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If its a gtx 295 (which you should make sure lol) It is an older card but still a pretty damn good card. It is actually 2 gpu's in a single card.
Yea, definately a gtx 295. Know how much it should go for?
Dunno but when you after you sell it, buy 2x gtx580s and run them in SLI. Wiiiiin.
Or just buy another gtx 295 and run SLI. Slightly less win.
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If its a gtx 295 (which you should make sure lol) It is an older card but still a pretty damn good card. It is actually 2 gpu's in a single card.
Yea, definately a gtx 295. Know how much it should go for?
Dunno but when you after you sell it, buy 2x gtx580s and run them in SLI. Wiiiiin.
Or just buy another gtx 295 and run SLI. Slightly less win.
1 GTX 580 maxes most games to date so both of those options are really overkill. (Dice has said that there isnt a GPU out that can max out BF3 but we will see how true that is) we also dont know if the motherboard is sli capable and he most likely doesn't have the cash to buy 2 580's.
As for selling the computer, you most likely wont get anything worthy of selling because there are so many parts within a computer that can break that most people are really hesitant to buy a used computer that costs a lot. If you only have your laptop why not use this as a desktop?
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1 GTX 580 maxes most games to date so both of those options are really overkill.
Yeah, but you're still going to win. You'll even win at things you aren't supposed to win at. Like yelling. And exercise.
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i wouldnt sell that O_o that could make a good gaming pc. its always good to have extra ram! ^.~
my pc has an i7 with 12gb of ram and a gtx480, and i have no problems at all, everything runs maxed out and smooth :D
if not, you could set it up as a minecraft server ;D hehehe