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Farmable items not growing???
sniperdoc:
--- Quote from: Nick3306 date=1336500216 ---These quotes would have been fine, but as you can see (i hope), you have a really bad attitude in both of these. Not to mention you do not offer any alternatives at all, you are just complaining that you cant get enough money. You can call it the "nick bandwagon" if you want, but I am not the only one who sees the attitude.
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I didn't intend for any attitude. If you read them that way it still didn't give you the right for you to throw out "ignorance" because of it... Honestly I think it's a pretty crappy response from someone with admin status.
--- Quote from: Nick3306 date=1336500216 ---Yes, this is how it is supposed to work, if every newbie was bringing in more cash than they were spending, everyone would be rich instantly. It is supposed to be hard to start out as a newbie, it's survival.
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I get that. I think that goes without saying as well. My statement, and I'll try to be clear, again, that this has to do with new players, having to spend more money than they're able to make, because their food stuff's isn't growing.
I put my observations. I gave pretty concise explanations of how fast stuff was growing for me. I'm also not discounting 24kGold and that his/her stuff may BE growing. But, 24k also seems to have been on the server for a while as well. Has 24k actually sat down, like I did for 2 hours and observed growth? At the same time as I observed the issues? Chances are probably not. So, I would go insofar that 24k's statement should have little bearing on what I observed.
I also stated there's a possibility that things could HAVE improved yesterday. I didn't get a chance to sit there for 2 hours and time it again, personally I find it a waste of my time. I was willing to do it the first time so there'd be some data for troubleshooting purposes.
As far as the pig/chicken/cow comment. I have a chicken/pig farm, a small one, and observed that even animal growth was a bit slow (though I didn't mention it), I also can't feed the animals wheat... as I have a limited supply of it. My best bet at first was to use the eggs I get to maybe drop 1 chick out of 16 eggs. But I found that, this was not a method that was sustainable i.e. chicken for food vs replenishment of chickens with eggs. I used up more food stuff trying to dig up iron/gold/diamonds than just standing there and watching it grow... which isn't fun. I also don't stray far from my plot either and usually hang within at least 100 and am usually right below my plot. Which I would assume means that my stuff should grow since I'm in still in the same chunk.
My best bet actually, was fishing, for a while. But, during the 2 hour observation period, I spent a half hour trying to catch fish, and I caught two. Why? Lag? I'd see the bobber go under, I'd right click and get nothing. Repeatedly. So, now that's not panning out any more. Could it be my connection? Maybe. I had 6Mbps ADSL, but let me preface that with the fact that on other "less active" servers, I have NO problems fishing. I just changed my connection to a 30Mbps/3Mbps cable line. So maybe there'll be some change on Opticraft now, I don't know.
Don't get me wrong, I like the server and all, especially the warp options which help a lot. It's just frustrating to try and explore, run out of food, have to sit there for hours at a time just to watch my food stuffs barely grow, then sell all my gold and iron (can't even sell the diamonds I have), and spend all my cash on bread. Explore a bit, run out of food, spend some more money. Eventually the money just disappears and I wouldn't have a farm to support myself. Now keep in mind that I was projecting the possibility of events, not that it is happening currently. I still have $8,000 I think. But, add it up.. One bread = $100 right? 64 breads x $ 100= $6400 that's not cheap and doesn't leave much headroom for exploration.
I was hoping that purchasing a few melons would be a faster food source, but at the time, that even took forever. Where on other default setup servers I get by with more than enough leftovers with the little farm that I have, I'd have to have a wheat farm almost 5 times it's current size on the Opticraft server to support any bread/melon operation. But, again, as I stated before, the situation could have resolved yesterday. I'm just trying to elaborate for those that may not understand the cycle of a new player trying to make it. By new, I mean someone that's managed to develop an established farm of some kind.
At this point I"m just thinking of putting in a massive underground wheat farm, I'll have to see how much seeds cost though. I don't have anything else I can sell at the market anymore since I spent it all trying to get money to purchase a protection stone.
Anyways, I don't think I needed to have gone into such detail but there it is... jesus I'm out of breat.... ok maybe not.
cschurz:
*skips reading whole topic*
hello sniperdoc. i have inspected your /home and found that your house and farm is spread out across many in-game "chunks"
each chunk is 16x16 blocks. if you are not standing in a chunk, it will not update on the server, and therefore your plants will not grow.
here is a (very) rough diagram of the layout of your home and farm.
the red sqaures roughly indicate where you must stand in order for plants within a given square to grow.
i have taken the liberty of placing signs labeled "CHUNK VERTEX" around your home, showing you where a corner of 4 chunks meet. remember, chunks are 16x16. using this information, you can create a very efficient multi-leveled farm if you wish.
please take the time to read more about chunks here http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Chunks
the way chunks work coupled with the low tick-rate the server experiences at most times of the day creates a very unfavorable farming experience unless you have very specific knowledge about farming and how it works. i hope i have cleared up at least some of your confusion regarding the slow growing of plants.
thank you for playing on opticraft.
sniperdoc:
GOD, THANK YOU!! Awesome. Thank you so much for letting me know. I know about chunks, but someone mentioned that if I'm at least within 128 squares I should be fine. So, I thought chunks were rather large for a server housing up to 300 players. That would explain EXACTLY why nothing grew. I was standing right at the entrance of my house, which is just at the edge of the lake (sugar cane) and the edge of the pumpkins/watermelons.
Thank you so much Dejected for the help/explanation.
animedude88:
the same problem happened to me. You need to stay close to the plants otherwise it would not grow.
sniperdoc:
@Dejected: Thanks for the food/cookie... lol
As far as the plant growth/chunks are concerned... how are people able to build these massively huge farms then? They're not standing in the appropriate chunk for 45 mins waiting for their wheat to grow? On other servers, if I'm within line of sight, over 16 squares away, I can watch trees, wheat and other stuff grow just fine?
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