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Seeing people in the live map
atdfbttl15:
--- Quote from: bigbeno37 on April 27, 2012, 09:59:20 am ---Hey!
I really like the addition of the 'Live map' on Opticraft, but I have a suggestion that would make it that little bit better; add in the location of where people are. In other servers which I have been on, the live map showed where people are, approximately. Could this please be implemented into Opticraft?
Thanks!
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I saw this on another server and it really causes lag even if there are 50 ppl in the server. Well maybe our server is faster then their server but we often have 100+ ppl in our server and even with this faster server, in fact, there is lag. So dynamic map will bring a lot of lag to the server and it is bad for all of us.
--- Quote from: 24kGold on April 27, 2012, 11:27:57 pm ---I don't see how it would cause such a lag issue. Opticraft is a 300 man server. Most larger servers like ours have the dynamic map which shows players locations. It's not like we're spying, I thought it was a neat feature.
Note, the live map is having issues and optic is aware and has been working on it.
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Well it is not that big server but I played in a server called stompzcraft who had the same feature. There was lots of lag although the small number of players who were playing. You said Opticraft is a 300 men server. This number is defined with the upload speed so it is not about lag.(Correct me if Im wrong) while lag appears when the RAM is full just like your computer where RAM is faster then Hard disk and when your RAM is full your computer will open programs in the hard disk which is slower and occasionally your computer will freeze. Plugins take some place in the RAM so there will be less place where the programs will work. This will make the limit where the lag begins sooner and there will be more lag.
The dynamic map must be big and complicated so it will cause more lag then other plugins. Btw the servers that you are talking about must have least plugins then us or they have faster servers.
I really suck at grammar especially when I write something that I'm not sure so sorry about that. This information maybe 100% true or 100% false so please replie if I'm wrong.
Thanks for reading and I hope that you won't be confused :)
ViperZeroOne:
Dynmap is a pretty good plugin for dynamically updating maps, and I've used it myself in the past. The problem is, when you're trying to update 300 people on a live real-time map it uses a lot of resources. I don't think an argument can be made that will justify the system resources used in order to have people show on the live map.
bigbeno37:
--- Quote from: atdthediamondminer on April 29, 2012, 08:14:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: bigbeno37 on April 27, 2012, 09:59:20 am ---Hey!
I really like the addition of the 'Live map' on Opticraft, but I have a suggestion that would make it that little bit better; add in the location of where people are. In other servers which I have been on, the live map showed where people are, approximately. Could this please be implemented into Opticraft?
Thanks!
--- End quote ---
I saw this on another server and it really causes lag even if there are 50 ppl in the server. Well maybe our server is faster then their server but we often have 100+ ppl in our server and even with this faster server, in fact, there is lag. So dynamic map will bring a lot of lag to the server and it is bad for all of us.
--- Quote from: 24kGold on April 27, 2012, 11:27:57 pm ---I don't see how it would cause such a lag issue. Opticraft is a 300 man server. Most larger servers like ours have the dynamic map which shows players locations. It's not like we're spying, I thought it was a neat feature.
Note, the live map is having issues and optic is aware and has been working on it.
--- End quote ---
Well it is not that big server but I played in a server called stompzcraft who had the same feature. There was lots of lag although the small number of players who were playing. You said Opticraft is a 300 men server. This number is defined with the upload speed so it is not about lag.(Correct me if Im wrong) while lag appears when the RAM is full just like your computer where RAM is faster then Hard disk and when your RAM is full your computer will open programs in the hard disk which is slower and occasionally your computer will freeze. Plugins take some place in the RAM so there will be less place where the programs will work. This will make the limit where the lag begins sooner and there will be more lag.
The dynamic map must be big and complicated so it will cause more lag then other plugins. Btw the servers that you are talking about must have least plugins then us or they have faster servers.
I really suck at grammar especially when I write something that I'm not sure so sorry about that. This information maybe 100% true or 100% false so please replie if I'm wrong.
Thanks for reading and I hope that you won't be confused :)
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I am not confused by your comment, but Optical is upgrading the server RAM to 32GB, which means we could have this implemented. Twice the amount of RAM should be enough to handle this feature, although you did make an interesting point regarding the upload speed. Where is Optical hosting the server from? If it's at home, then the upload speed *probably* wouldn't cope with it, however if it is a VPS system hosted by another company, then it shouldn't be a problem
NateN:
--- Quote from: bigbeno37 on April 30, 2012, 01:03:27 am ---
--- Quote from: atdthediamondminer on April 29, 2012, 08:14:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: bigbeno37 on April 27, 2012, 09:59:20 am ---Hey!
I really like the addition of the 'Live map' on Opticraft, but I have a suggestion that would make it that little bit better; add in the location of where people are. In other servers which I have been on, the live map showed where people are, approximately. Could this please be implemented into Opticraft?
Thanks!
--- End quote ---
I saw this on another server and it really causes lag even if there are 50 ppl in the server. Well maybe our server is faster then their server but we often have 100+ ppl in our server and even with this faster server, in fact, there is lag. So dynamic map will bring a lot of lag to the server and it is bad for all of us.
--- Quote from: 24kGold on April 27, 2012, 11:27:57 pm ---I don't see how it would cause such a lag issue. Opticraft is a 300 man server. Most larger servers like ours have the dynamic map which shows players locations. It's not like we're spying, I thought it was a neat feature.
Note, the live map is having issues and optic is aware and has been working on it.
--- End quote ---
Well it is not that big server but I played in a server called stompzcraft who had the same feature. There was lots of lag although the small number of players who were playing. You said Opticraft is a 300 men server. This number is defined with the upload speed so it is not about lag.(Correct me if Im wrong) while lag appears when the RAM is full just like your computer where RAM is faster then Hard disk and when your RAM is full your computer will open programs in the hard disk which is slower and occasionally your computer will freeze. Plugins take some place in the RAM so there will be less place where the programs will work. This will make the limit where the lag begins sooner and there will be more lag.
The dynamic map must be big and complicated so it will cause more lag then other plugins. Btw the servers that you are talking about must have least plugins then us or they have faster servers.
I really suck at grammar especially when I write something that I'm not sure so sorry about that. This information maybe 100% true or 100% false so please replie if I'm wrong.
Thanks for reading and I hope that you won't be confused :)
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I am not confused by your comment, but Optical is upgrading the server RAM to 32GB, which means we could have this implemented. Twice the amount of RAM should be enough to handle this feature, although you did make an interesting point regarding the upload speed. Where is Optical hosting the server from? If it's at home, then the upload speed *probably* wouldn't cope with it, however if it is a VPS system hosted by another company, then it shouldn't be a problem
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My good sir RAM isn't everything. Bandwidth and actual computing power are large factors, due to the fact the live map must be rendered from software information into an interactive picture. Processing the location of every person, as well as going into real time takes a lot of processing power, while RAM helps to quickly access data (ie locations, information, thinks that need to be...get ready for it....randomly accessed
Rezathin (Logan5353):
If this would go into effect, I personally think that this should show trusted+ or maybe just moderators+.
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