Discussion forum > Suggestions

The Opticraft Suggestion Thread

<< < (2/5) > >>

tbpb2010:

--- Quote from: Nick3306 on March 26, 2012, 12:25:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: smd75jr on March 26, 2012, 10:00:52 am ---
--- Quote from: Nick3306 on March 26, 2012, 03:41:27 am ---1. alicia nailed it
2.Moderators don't grow on trees, Moderators who are not mature enough or moderators that are just plain stupid would have a huge negative effect on this server. That is why we are so picky when choosing mods.
3. If you want us to give reasons we will add one line to every app that says "we do not currently think you would make a good mod" It is as simple as that.
4.The server should automatically restart when it "crashes".

--- End quote ---
3. That's hardly a reason -.-

--- End quote ---
Well if you get rejected, that is the reason why. Just saying.

--- End quote ---

I understand why admins have to give such a general reason for rejection (possibly time constrains and anonymity) but that's like a doctor telling a family their relative died because their heart stopped.  They (more often than not) want to know what caused it.  I think smd75jr (and many others) want a more personal and direct reason for getting denied such a needed position.  In builder apps more often then not if they are rejected (or accepted), the op tells the builder what projects they had were good, what wasn't quite up to snuff and why it didn't meet their standards.  Sorry if this post sounds a bit redundant to what the original poster said but I felt the need to offer my opinion.

smd75jr:

--- Quote from: tbpb2010 on March 26, 2012, 02:13:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: Nick3306 on March 26, 2012, 12:25:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: smd75jr on March 26, 2012, 10:00:52 am ---
--- Quote from: Nick3306 on March 26, 2012, 03:41:27 am ---1. alicia nailed it
2.Moderators don't grow on trees, Moderators who are not mature enough or moderators that are just plain stupid would have a huge negative effect on this server. That is why we are so picky when choosing mods.
3. If you want us to give reasons we will add one line to every app that says "we do not currently think you would make a good mod" It is as simple as that.
4.The server should automatically restart when it "crashes".

--- End quote ---
3. That's hardly a reason -.-

--- End quote ---
Well if you get rejected, that is the reason why. Just saying.

--- End quote ---

I understand why admins have to give such a general reason for rejection (possibly time constrains and anonymity) but that's like a doctor telling a family their relative died because their heart stopped.  They (more often than not) want to know what caused it.  I think smd75jr (and many others) want a more personal and direct reason for getting denied such a needed position.  In builder apps more often then not if they are rejected (or accepted), the op tells the builder what projects they had were good, what wasn't quite up to snuff and why it didn't meet their standards.  Sorry if this post sounds a bit redundant to what the original poster said but I felt the need to offer my opinion.

--- End quote ---

Its not redundant at all, it explains it quite well

Nick3306:
The difference with the builder apps is that you can reject someone because they don't build big enough, or detailed enough. With mod apps, all we look at is whether we think you would make a good mod or not, so that would be the only explanation we would give. Sure we could brake it down into things like immaturity, and a lack of trust, but we would prefer to keep personal feelings intact. Plus, the last time I gave a reason for rejecting a mod app, the entire forum went crazy.

morgosin:

--- Quote from: awesomealicia on March 26, 2012, 02:28:49 am ---1.
--- Quote from: Relkeb on January 07, 2012, 05:29:42 am ---Do not apply if you aren't going to take this position seriously and aren't going to commit yourself to the duties of a mod.

--- End quote ---
2. I do agree with you on this point, but quantity doesnt mean quality when it comes to more mods.

--- End quote ---

This sounds very familiar... Where did I hear this before, oh yeagh!! It is like the go to phrase for promoteing a builder on classic, And I totaly agree with it, quality keeps people on the server.
Sure we can have 40 mods but some of them are bound to do something stupid to mess up the servers Reputation. I'd rather have nice, good, and knowledgable people leading the server, rather then someone that is constantly trolling the guests...

cschurz:
I think SMD deserves a nice discussion on his points rather than a simple dismissing of his points.

Moderators in general
- We (...I) are certainly working on more ways to reduce the workload of moderators by means of a simpler ban appeal system, easier to use logblock, improvements to the ticket system my mod provides, and ways to passively reduce the amount of griefing. It is my opinion that a "perfect" server is one that moderates itself. It's my goal to get as close to that as possible by means of making things easier for all parties involved (both the ones receiving moderation and those who are being moderated). Such a system is a long way off.

To answer your point more directly: Moderator's shouldn't be the one-stop-shop when it comes to being helped in-game or out of game. They are, in ways, the simplest solution to the problem. And I am not a believer in Occams' razer. Less emphasis on manual moderation = better.

--
"More Mods"
I understand that my previous point is, as I said, a long way off. I do actually agree with the point that we need more mods. We could slap a moderator badge on just about any casual member here and they'd at least try to do the job. Most would probably do the job quite well. More mods does, however, become difficult to manage. Quality assurance is important when it comes to mods, and I think Nick and Relkeb could potentially loosen it up a bit, just until we get some more automated moderation techniques in place. We're currently burning through our mods simply because they don't enjoy the workload they receive. A "Moderator badge" wouldn't really solve that, it would just be a band aid.

Hopefully you can see my opinion on the whole moderator thing.

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page