Discussion forum > Suggestions
Economy and protection
Muhnator:
It's like ppl do not read what i write at all..
Im not concerned about me.. As i said, i know i will be on top of the foodchain. I will prob be one of the richest guys in the game, and most ppl on that background would say "loool fuck all you casuals, im gona pwn the entire map"
Im a retard, cuz i do think about the casual, i remeber being the casual.. And this is the problem that most ppl have in opticraft as far as i see it.. As soon as they "gain a rank" the general thought is fk everyone below me..
Im trying to make my voice heard, on behalf of thos that dont have alot of freetime, or mining/building skillz.. These guys do not roam the forums, only non casuals do. But they do deserve the same treatment as the rest of us..
But as i said on the server last night, maby "exploiting" the shit out of the economy system wil make em listen. I would see this as my last solution though..
Economy is however not my biggest concern, as Devil said, "it dosent really matter that mutch". I belive this guy knows what hes talking about. I hope your right man..
My concern was mosty around protection
Im still super interested in hearing Opti's opinion on the protection system i suggested.
Muhnator
clawstrider:
Please don't double post, modify your post instead. Thanks.
--- Quote from: Muhnator on September 28, 2011, 01:13:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: clawstrider on September 28, 2011, 01:08:47 pm ---
If you are a casual player, you:
A. Will not have as bigger builds (less mats, less build) so cheaper to protect
B. Would not care as much if people break in/mess it up a bit, as this is you free time thing, not a very important work of art.
Right?
--- End quote ---
a : mhmm
b : no matter the size, or quality of the build any player complains about grief. You are a classic op, you should know better then this reply..
--- End quote ---
B: Exactly. The fact that I am an op, is that I am a casual builder (I do not love it, I may do it ocasionally on the side). I personally, would be annoyed, but I can imagine what a crafter/builder aiming for crafter would do if they were griefed...
And as to your second point, I don't particularly understand your point. It would not matter if you did "expoit" the system, what would it matter to us, unless you reserved much of the world, at which point an op might step in...
Muhnator:
--- Quote from: clawstrider on September 28, 2011, 03:01:54 pm ---Please don't double post, modify your post instead. Thanks.
--- Quote from: Muhnator on September 28, 2011, 01:13:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: clawstrider on September 28, 2011, 01:08:47 pm ---
If you are a casual player, you:
A. Will not have as bigger builds (less mats, less build) so cheaper to protect
B. Would not care as much if people break in/mess it up a bit, as this is you free time thing, not a very important work of art.
Right?
--- End quote ---
a : mhmm
b : no matter the size, or quality of the build any player complains about grief. You are a classic op, you should know better then this reply..
--- End quote ---
B: Exactly. The fact that I am an op, is that I am a casual builder (I do not love it, I may do it ocasionally on the side). I personally, would be annoyed, but I can imagine what a crafter/builder aiming for crafter would do if they were griefed...
And as to your second point, I don't particularly understand your point. It would not matter if you did "expoit" the system, what would it matter to us, unless you reserved much of the world, at which point an op might step in...
--- End quote ---
No, the reason you are an op is cuz you couldent achieve crafter. You begged for Op, and was put on trial many times since you have a reputation of not being able to be tusted.. (i was there when you got op, dont forget that) (+ ive seen you grief alot in beta)
You do not grasp this tread at all. Im talking about fixing problems b4 they occur, and fixing em permanently. You are still stuck at narrowminded micromanegment..
Please stop posting in this tread since your input is pointless
clawstrider:
--- Quote from: Muhnator on September 28, 2011, 05:10:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: clawstrider on September 28, 2011, 03:01:54 pm ---Please don't double post, modify your post instead. Thanks.
--- Quote from: Muhnator on September 28, 2011, 01:13:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: clawstrider on September 28, 2011, 01:08:47 pm ---
If you are a casual player, you:
A. Will not have as bigger builds (less mats, less build) so cheaper to protect
B. Would not care as much if people break in/mess it up a bit, as this is you free time thing, not a very important work of art.
Right?
--- End quote ---
a : mhmm
b : no matter the size, or quality of the build any player complains about grief. You are a classic op, you should know better then this reply..
--- End quote ---
B: Exactly. The fact that I am an op, is that I am a casual builder (I do not love it, I may do it ocasionally on the side). I personally, would be annoyed, but I can imagine what a crafter/builder aiming for crafter would do if they were griefed...
And as to your second point, I don't particularly understand your point. It would not matter if you did "expoit" the system, what would it matter to us, unless you reserved much of the world, at which point an op might step in...
--- End quote ---
No, the reason you are an op is cuz you couldent achieve crafter. You begged for Op, and was put on trial many times since you have a reputation of not being able to be tusted.. (i was there when you got op, dont forget that) (+ ive seen you grief alot in beta)
You do not grasp this tread at all. Im talking about fixing problems b4 they occur, and fixing em permanently. You are still stuck at narrowminded micromanegment..
Please stop posting in this tread since your input is pointless
--- End quote ---
I became op because I dislike building and wanted to help the server. If "begging" for op, is making an app, then fine, I did, but so did every other op. And saying that I was on trial because "I am not trusted" is a load of tosh. Its saying they trust you to put you on trial. And you have seen me grief a lot? I don't see myself banned, so kindly enlighten me as to the "Lot of grief" I have done.
I think I grasp this "tread" enough, and just because you cannot accept my opinion, does not mean I cannot post here. Please stop trying to make arguements, as, unlike you, I really don't enjoy them, and they make this topic go off topic.
Muhnator:
--- Quote from: clawstrider on September 28, 2011, 05:18:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: Muhnator on September 28, 2011, 05:10:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: clawstrider on September 28, 2011, 03:01:54 pm ---Please don't double post, modify your post instead. Thanks.
--- Quote from: Muhnator on September 28, 2011, 01:13:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: clawstrider on September 28, 2011, 01:08:47 pm ---
If you are a casual player, you:
A. Will not have as bigger builds (less mats, less build) so cheaper to protect
B. Would not care as much if people break in/mess it up a bit, as this is you free time thing, not a very important work of art.
Right?
--- End quote ---
a : mhmm
b : no matter the size, or quality of the build any player complains about grief. You are a classic op, you should know better then this reply..
--- End quote ---
B: Exactly. The fact that I am an op, is that I am a casual builder (I do not love it, I may do it ocasionally on the side). I personally, would be annoyed, but I can imagine what a crafter/builder aiming for crafter would do if they were griefed...
And as to your second point, I don't particularly understand your point. It would not matter if you did "expoit" the system, what would it matter to us, unless you reserved much of the world, at which point an op might step in...
--- End quote ---
No, the reason you are an op is cuz you couldent achieve crafter. You begged for Op, and was put on trial many times since you have a reputation of not being able to be tusted.. (i was there when you got op, dont forget that) (+ ive seen you grief alot in beta)
You do not grasp this tread at all. Im talking about fixing problems b4 they occur, and fixing em permanently. You are still stuck at narrowminded micromanegment..
Please stop posting in this tread since your input is pointless
--- End quote ---
I became op because I dislike building and wanted to help the server. If "begging" for op, is making an app, then fine, I did, but so did every other op. And saying that I was on trial because "I am not trusted" is a load of tosh. Its saying they trust you to put you on trial. And you have seen me grief a lot? I don't see myself banned, so kindly enlighten me as to the "Lot of grief" I have done.
I think I grasp this "tread" enough, and just because you cannot accept my opinion, does not mean I cannot post here. Please stop trying to make arguements, as, unlike you, I really don't enjoy them, and they make this topic go off topic.
--- End quote ---
You sir, are the best forum troll ive ever meet. Its the only thing i see you being really good at..
Like you flamed me with pm's ingame calling me all sorts of shit, can i please urge you to pm me instead, about your personal problems. So it dosent take focus of the subject im posting about..
Im aware that you and me will never get along, but this post is not the place to try and solve this.
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