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Nick3306:

--- Quote from: Nothing_ on March 19, 2016, 12:29:07 am ---I think this is a bad idea personally, a lot of the remaining players come here for the builds they have made in the past,  and to have some fun playing with their friends. Community has and always will be one of the driving factors as to why this server is still here, and I fear that a complete wipe of SMP would just divide the community further. People want to make changes to attract new players and I'm all for that, but if the cost of new players is losing some of our oldest members and friends is it really worth it?

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If everyone stays for the community, wouldn't they all stay no matter what then? If the main reason they stay is not for the gameplay, but the community, why would they leave due to a gameplay change?

The fact is, our players numbers have been steadily dropping, if you guys want to keep things the way they are, we are all for that.  All this is supposed to be is us seeing if a change would be preferred. If it is not preferred, we wont change it.

Leafolozzy:
Please don't get rid of the economy system. We need minor changes.
          1. We should fix the market; no one (informed) uses it. People just trade with others. You can sell like 3 things at unfair prices.
          2. We should fix the inflation problem. Instead of making dirt at a 60 buy price, it should be a 1 buy price. The reason is people brag about their 1 million dollars, which is not particularly a lot.
          3. We should somehow prevent people from mass farming. I don't want to discourage economic growth, but if people just soak up money through farms, take out masses of space, and aft there for hours, the games just not fun.

TarynMai:

--- Quote from: Leafolozzy on March 19, 2016, 12:42:47 am ---Please don't get rid of the economy system. We need minor changes.
          1. We should fix the market; no one (informed) uses it. People just trade with others. You can sell like 3 things at unfair prices.
          2. We should fix the inflation problem. Instead of making dirt at a 60 buy price, it should be a 1 buy price. The reason is people brag about their 1 million dollars, which is not particularly a lot.
          3. We should somehow prevent people from mass farming. I don't want to discourage economic growth, but if people just soak up money through farms, take out masses of space, and aft there for hours, the games just not fun.

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1. That is what we were thinking - letting people trade with others.
2. I dont know how much that would help, but sure.
3. We've been trying that, there's always new farms people make and new ways to do that lol

Are you okay with the world removal then?

Cora:
My turn to say my opinion - agree or don't, here it is:

You're saying that players you've spoken to have explained why they "stopped playing." What you're not taking into account, is the people that have come to SMP since you've all decided it was too "stale" and the people who stayed since before you left. Sure things like a delisting of warps, and cleaning up the economy a little might be in order -- but completely disintegrating everything your current SMP regulars love about it, is just cruel and inconsiderate. By doing this you're saying that only the people who have stopped caring about/loving SMP matter, and those who are loyal do not.

But in case this was not specific enough let us go further into detail. No point system could replace the ease that the market creates, especially in periods when there's new updates to Minecraft overall and we're left without naturally spawning new items that we want to try/use. It also helps create a more build-friendly style of SMP, which is why the regulars stay. Removing all the worlds - especially while so many of us are mid-big builds with each other, is beyond insulting and rude. And the argument that building is for creative, is completely invalid. Building where the blocks are constantly accessible without any form of survival playing (either by trying to make money in market, or legitimately going out to mine the blocks) is more stale to me than what some people feel the SMP server has become. This market and block collecting system builds a sense of community with all the players working together to achieve their goals of the time. So honestly creative does not replace this style of playing, not by a long shot. The PVP world you attempted to implement has had little to no success, and I bet you can't imagine why? Because we - the people who remain loyal to SMP are loyal because of how it is NOW. We don't like/need to try and get the best armor and kill each other - or have people kill us while we're trying to enjoy the game. You are proposing fundamental changes to what makes Opticraft this amazing community we all love and enjoy, without even really being involved with it much anymore. You've lost touch with how much we all love and enjoy the server, and I think these changes will ensure the end of Opticraft.

Leafolozzy:

--- Quote from: TarynMai on March 19, 2016, 12:44:55 am ---
--- Quote from: Leafolozzy on March 19, 2016, 12:42:47 am ---Please don't get rid of the economy system. We need minor changes.
          1. We should fix the market; no one (informed) uses it. People just trade with others. You can sell like 3 things at unfair prices.
          2. We should fix the inflation problem. Instead of making dirt at a 60 buy price, it should be a 1 buy price. The reason is people brag about their 1 million dollars, which is not particularly a lot.
          3. We should somehow prevent people from mass farming. I don't want to discourage economic growth, but if people just soak up money through farms, take out masses of space, and aft there for hours, the games just not fun.

--- End quote ---

1. That is what we were thinking - letting people trade with others.
2. I dont know how much that would help, but sure.
3. We've been trying that, there's always new farms people make and new ways to do that lol

Are you okay with the world removal then?

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Yeah I'm completely sick of these worlds. Also, will the new worlds be 1.9?

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