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Nick3306:
--- Quote from: Lando_V on September 11, 2013, 01:52:54 pm ---
First of all, no offence meant in any way to anyone! We all have our opinions.
--- Quote from: Nick3306 on September 08, 2013, 02:54:53 pm ---
I will be removing the ability to sell iron and gold ingots to the market next sunday.
This decision wasn't made lightly and an overwhelming majority of our staff agrees with it.
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This should be a player decision, not a staff one. It's the players that keep this server alive, without them this server would be dead. Without staff there would still be a lot of players. (Not that I would prefer a server without staff.)
The majority must decide.
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It doesn't work like that. Of course players will want easy ways to get money, why would they vote down an easy way to get money? If I held a vote right now on whether we should give each player $1000000000 in game money, do you think people would vote it down? No. So we made the decision that we felt was best for the server.
Oh, and having players donate to get money (which they have been able to do for a long time) is good because that money keeps the server running.
Pugabyte:
I would quote Lando but his post is too long it would take forever to edit.
Hey said a few times that wiping baltop would be a good way to fix this mess.
I completely disagree, that is extremely unfair to those who worked for their money. They put time and money into that. For example, Dropzone1446. He mined for hours and hours and hours, not used golf/iron farms. Fish_Luver, he donated for a lot if his money. I got my money from mining and selling statues. Just because a majority of people have a lot of money because of iron/gold farms doesn't mean everyone should have their balance wiped. Wiping baltop would truly be the end of opticraft.
daniblue182:
'Not the amounts that farms can provide. Players simply don't have the money to buy it.'
thats too bad... you lot will find another way to make money sooner or later
Lando_V:
--- Quote from: Nick3306 on September 11, 2013, 02:59:04 pm ---It doesn't work like that. Of course players will want easy ways to get money, why would they vote down an easy way to get money? If I held a vote right now on whether we should give each player $1000000000 in game money, do you think people would vote it down? No. So we made the decision that we felt was best for the server.
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Very unfortunate but understood. :) Although I still think the problem lies in the afk-ing and not in the selling to the market.
--- Quote from: Nick3306 on September 11, 2013, 02:59:04 pm ---Oh, and having players donate to get money (which they have been able to do for a long time) is good because that money keeps the server running.
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As I stated before I have nothing against donations or rewards for those donations like disguises, /homes etc. which indeed can help keep the server running but not ingame money. People could buy their way to the top which is unfair.
I guess we could agree to disagree on this last point? ;)
--- Quote from: mopar23 on September 11, 2013, 03:37:11 pm ---I would quote Lando but his post is too long it would take forever to edit.
Hey said a few times that wiping baltop would be a good way to fix this mess.
I completely disagree, that is extremely unfair to those who worked for their money. They put time and money into that. For example, Dropzone1446. He mined for hours and hours and hours, not used golf/iron farms. Fish_Luver, he donated for a lot if his money. I got my money from mining and selling statues. Just because a majority of people have a lot of money because of iron/gold farms doesn't mean everyone should have their balance wiped. Wiping baltop would truly be the end of opticraft.
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Sorry about the long post, no need to edit it, your point is clear, however:
That's not what I said. :o
I said that in combination with removing iron and gold we should also make a fresh start with /baltop because a lot of players have become rich that way. It would be completely unfair to let them stay rich and not give others that same chance. So either remove iron and gold AND wipe /baltop ......or don't do anything at all.
You cannot deny that it would solve the big and unfair differences we have atm. And I understand that others would suffer from it too but it would be a fresh start for everyone! Not just you or certain people in particular. ;)
But what you don't seem to understand is that many people have put a lot of time and effort in their farms and the current solution wouldn't be fair to those people at all!
And don't be too dramatic about a wipe of /baltop because it's a very small part of the server. People won't leave for something like that. People seem to spend their money very easily. They have to make new money all the time. So don't worry, a wipe isn't the end of the world. :D
In addition to that I said that the easiest solution would be to remove the entire market and monetary system. But I also stated that most people probably wouldn't like that. It would however make this a real survival server.
clawstrider:
Any suggestions of wiping /baltop are unlikely to happen due to all the players who have donated for money.
Also, it's stupidly hard to do due to the way essentials saves player data.
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