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NotABronie:
Im sorry but i must qualify why Enderman Farms should be on rare items of opticraft

1.) There aren't many of them
2.) They are wicked expensive( at least in my eyes) to make
3.) they require that you go pretty far out into the end to make them

counter-arguments:
1.) they aren't natural (alike spawn eggs and iron farms)
2.)
--- Quote from: xDeeKay on January 13, 2013, 07:57:31 am ---Anyone can make one, plus there's not set rules to define exactly what an 'Enderman farm'

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yes but anyone can make one if they are willing to risk falling into the void, and have plenty of material/funds of which the project is built. plus if that is your argument, gold farms should be removed as well.

And on your other argument of which i quoted, I do believe that farm has an implication of able to be harvested and alike the instant mine of wheat/carrots/potatoes/warts enderman farms are an instant kill, ergo it is referred to as a farm as opposed to an Enderman Arena. also, you argue that an enderman spawner includes someone's roof, such that it is in the end, however if someone had that, and they posted that they had an enderman spawner, then they should be removed from the list because you should only put this kind of stuff on here if it was your direct intention to make it a farm, which i think that because of this, Pensfan121 should rephrase it to where it says Blaze farm and Enderman Farm, in lieu of Blaze Spawner and Enderman Spawner
3.)
--- Quote from: xDeeKay on January 13, 2013, 07:57:31 am ---say remove the Enderman Spawner list, because it's not rare at all.

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well, if you argue that an enderman farm is not rare, then you must argue that ender dragon eggs are not rare either, for they are 2.05x as common as enderman farms
4.) maybe enderman spawners are being kept on the list because only people who have enderman spawners are voting for this, and they just want to have their name on the list, i mean this is wrong, but i see blaze spawners becoming unrare in the near future, Even though i own 2, and co-own 2, i will still vote against the retention of blaze spawners on this list, for i believe it is due time it is removed.

Btw Pens, the blue is something that i just noticed and i would like you to edit because nhataley owns one (that i know of) individually, and we co-own both the blaze spawners in one nether fortress, and i own the 2 blaze spawners of a different fortress, but you may have seen it as i own 3 because i said its like a 70-30 share for both, one is predominately mine and the other is predominately his, but we still co-own it, so please

Nhataley- 1
Nhataley/NotABronie-2
NotABronie- 2

thanks much :)

DeeKay:

--- Quote from: NotABronie on January 24, 2013, 02:50:22 am ---1.) There aren't many of them
2.) They are wicked expensive( at least in my eyes) to make
3.) they require that you go pretty far out into the end to make them
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1. Have you been to the original End world? There's loads of them.
2. Some pistons/redstone and some common building materials? If someone makes a house out of the most expensive materials, would that be added to the list? No. Expensive doesn't make something rare.
3. So does everything else on the server, still doesn't make it rare.

For all your other points: Sorry, but they didn't make enough sense for me to change my mind. Even if the list isn't removed, it should at least be renamed to 'Enderman Spawners' and have some sort of guideline as to what qualifies as an 'Enderman Spawner'.

Pensfan121:

--- Quote from: xDeeKay on January 24, 2013, 06:03:24 am ---For all your other points: Sorry, but they didn't make enough sense for me to change my mind. Even if the list isn't removed, it should at least be renamed to 'Enderman Spawners' and have some sort of guideline as to what qualifies as an 'Enderman Spawner'.

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I have put a requirement in saying the spawner must be one hit kill and be as little as 21x21.


--- Quote from: NotABronie on January 24, 2013, 02:50:22 am --- Pensfan121 should rephrase it to where it says Blaze farm and Enderman Farm, in lieu of Blaze Spawner and Enderman Spawner

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I will not change the name of the blaze spawner; a blaze spawner is rare also; they are now become more and more common though. The name Enderman spawner might be changed only if it is kept in the list.

SalsaInABowl:

--- Quote from: xDeeKay on January 24, 2013, 06:03:24 am ---
--- Quote from: NotABronie on January 24, 2013, 02:50:22 am ---1.) There aren't many of them
2.) They are wicked expensive( at least in my eyes) to make
3.) they require that you go pretty far out into the end to make them
--- End quote ---
1. Have you been to the original End world? There's loads of them.
2. Some pistons/redstone and some common building materials? If someone makes a house out of the most expensive materials, would that be added to the list? No. Expensive doesn't make something rare.
3. So does everything else on the server, still doesn't make it rare.

For all your other points: Sorry, but they didn't make enough sense for me to change my mind. Even if the list isn't removed, it should at least be renamed to 'Enderman Spawners' and have some sort of guideline as to what qualifies as an 'Enderman Spawner'.

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DeadlyLead101 actually has a house made of diamonds...just sayin

whatehfuh:
Anyone remember godmode from the original "Doom" game?

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